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03-14-2012, 06:31 PM
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what year did "the code" change?

I remember watching fights years ago and it was common for a player to throw down the other player and continue to pummel them when they were on the ice, almost to the point of an mma ground and pound technique

I'm trying to remember when did the code change, where it became unacceptable to get a guy down on the ice and start punching?

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03-14-2012, 06:58 PM
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03-14-2012, 07:17 PM
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the linesmen had to be quick to jump on in those days to save guys




and if you got knocked down it could be big trouble, bravery needed to show up to fight for sure:


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Not sure if the NHL added a similar rule at some point, but I know Hockey Canada has the Aggressor Rule, which is used to penalized a player who persists after the linesmen move in to break up a fight, or who refuses to stop beating on someone (separate from the instigator but often confused for some reason). I also think that over the years the officiating has become more of a science...officials are told exactly what to do and when to do it so that a standard can be easily established. Perhaps the role of a linesmen in a fight has tightened up so to speak as player safety has become so important. I've always been tought as a linesmen during a fight to never intervene until my partner is there, but to get in there as soon as a combatent is in a vulnerable position. To answer your question, my best guess is that linesmen didn't have a standard back in the day as to when they should break it up, and many of them probably wanted to see the scrap last as long as possible.

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I remember watching fights years ago and it was common for a player to throw down the other player and continue to pummel them when they were on the ice, almost to the point of an mma ground and pound technique

I'm trying to remember when did the code change, where it became unacceptable to get a guy down on the ice and start punching?
Good question. If I had to guess, it would be right around the time that staged fights between dedicated enforcers became the norm ("Hey other team's enforcer, wanna go? OK, man. Good luck" as opposed to "you said or did something Kordic didn't like; prepare to eat knuckle, whoever you are," which was the old way).

If it's just two guys doing their job for fan entertainment, there's really no need to be beating the other guy on the ground because there's really no animus in the situation. The fights where one guy beat the other after he was down usually happened it situations where one party or his teammate was wronged in some way.

Just my guess.

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Iggy doesn't follow the code:


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Good question. If I had to guess, it would be right around the time that staged fights between dedicated enforcers became the norm ("Hey other team's enforcer, wanna go? OK, man. Good luck" as opposed to "you said or did something Kordic didn't like; prepare to eat knuckle, whoever you are," which was the old way).

If it's just two guys doing their job for fan entertainment, there's really no need to be beating the other guy on the ground because there's really no animus in the situation. The fights where one guy beat the other after he was down usually happened it situations where one party or his teammate was wronged in some way.

Just my guess.
Makes sense, players are usually more aggressive when they're fighting over something that happened in the game.

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Would it be considered 'against the code' to use a vibrating palm Dim Mak technique in a hockey fight?

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I remember watching fights years ago and it was common for a player to throw down the other player and continue to pummel them when they were on the ice, almost to the point of an mma ground and pound technique

I'm trying to remember when did the code change, where it became unacceptable to get a guy down on the ice and start punching?
When the only thing some players did was fight, and therefore did not want to become injured from fighting.

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03-19-2012, 11:21 PM
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When the only thing some players did was fight, and therefore did not want to become injured from fighting.
The sad thing is... people complain about statged fights.

Yet when there is a fight our of anger, which results in punched being thrown while on the ground, there is a 1,000 post thread about it.

Oh the hypocrisy

I believe this fight sparked a 1,000 post thread.


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03-23-2012, 12:42 AM
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The sad thing is... people complain about statged fights.

Yet when there is a fight our of anger, which results in punched being thrown while on the ground, there is a 1,000 post thread about it.

Oh the hypocrisy

I believe this fight sparked a 1,000 post thread.

Except for the fact that it was absolutely filthy.

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The sad thing is... people complain about statged fights.

Yet when there is a fight our of anger, which results in punched being thrown while on the ground, there is a 1,000 post thread about it.

Oh the hypocrisy

I believe this fight sparked a 1,000 post thread.

That was dirty....fighting out of anger doesnt mean pounding the guys while he's down. This is acting like a caveman.

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03-23-2012, 12:11 PM
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Brown got what he deserved. That was awesome.

You see a lot of development league kids ( OHL,etc ) still throw punches after the other guy goes down on the ice.

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Brown got what he deserved. That was awesome.

You see a lot of development league kids ( OHL,etc ) still throw punches after the other guy goes down on the ice.
Punching someone in the back of the head while he's lying down is awesome...

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Punching someone in the back of the head while he's lying down is awesome...
I cheered.

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That was dirty....fighting out of anger doesnt mean pounding the guys while he's down. This is acting like a caveman.


Lot of code breaking going on there.. but that was "old time hockey" so its all good.

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Lot of code breaking going on there.. but that was "old time hockey" so its all good.
And before this phony "code" was created.

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Apr 20, 1991.

The Code is a lot like the NHL Rule Book. It's something that can always be thrown in the garbage can whenever it suits you, or used as justification for trashing someone else.

*edit* Thinking further, what I was trying to say was: If your guy gets nailed in a cheap way, you can trash them by saying it was against The Code and they're scum by not playing by it. If your guy nails someone in a cheap way, you then point out all the times the other guy ignored The Code and therefore deserved it. Didn't think a Bruins fan would be unfamiliar with the process.


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Clark did a few guys over like that. What a ferocious, powerful dude.

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Punching someone in the back of the head while he's lying down is awesome...
was he punching him in the back of the head? brown started the fight.. lucic ended it. If it happened the other way i would've said "looch should've stayed on his skates".

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I remember watching fights years ago and it was common for a player to throw down the other player and continue to pummel them when they were on the ice, almost to the point of an mma ground and pound technique

I'm trying to remember when did the code change, where it became unacceptable to get a guy down on the ice and start punching?
There has never been a "code", its just something a senile old man has invented on TV. There has been unwritten rules though, like dont kick or knee.

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code never existed. Crock of *****. The code doesn't work. If you follow it no one is ever held accountable.

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the code changed the year the instigator rule was enacted

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