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05-07-2012, 10:39 AM
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Road hockey stick blades?

I've been pondering the idea of attempting to coat the bottom of the blade in some kind of slick and durable substance that might both offer it some protection but also prevent it from getting hung up on the rough concrete surface when stickhandling.

Has anyone ever tried anything like this? Does anyone have any ideas as to what kind of substance might work?

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05-07-2012, 11:02 PM
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find online deals for multiple abs blades and get a bulk shipment. they're easy to replace, the best deal is probably like 10 bucks per blade if you get 3 or more.

there is always wear and tear with street hockey, otherwise get a shooting pad to keep your stick intact. might as well go with a plastic ABS blade. I recommend easton's, if you can go to pro hockey life they had them on sale i got 2 for 30.

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Yeah, just get something with an ABS blade. Canadian Tire usually has woodies with ABS blades for a decent price.

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I've been pondering the idea of attempting to coat the bottom of the blade in some kind of slick and durable substance that might both offer it some protection but also prevent it from getting hung up on the rough concrete surface when stickhandling.

Has anyone ever tried anything like this? Does anyone have any ideas as to what kind of substance might work?
have you seen these? http://www.hockeymonkey.com/reebok-h...stance-sr.html

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I've gone through many ABS blades and many Crossover blades and find the Crossover blades to be much better. They last longer and they don't flex nearly as much as the ABS blades. They're about 10 bucks more than an ABS but totally worth it IMO.

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find online deals for multiple abs blades and get a bulk shipment. they're easy to replace, the best deal is probably like 10 bucks per blade if you get 3 or more.

there is always wear and tear with street hockey, otherwise get a shooting pad to keep your stick intact. might as well go with a plastic ABS blade. I recommend easton's, if you can go to pro hockey life they had them on sale i got 2 for 30.
I strongly advise against the Easton Synergy ABS blades. They split at the bottom and then they suck, similar to what most of the new composite blades would do on a rough surface.

You do want to look for a blade with an ABS core, but it should also either be made with wood or composite. Honestly, the cheaper priced blades are what you need for street hockey. You can still find a lot of Koho and CCM junior blades that are perfect. Some of the old Montreal blades that will work to if you can find them.


Here's a couple of blades that have worked for me:

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior


Once you find the right one for you, buy plenty. They're cheap, probably on their way out, and most importantly you'll go through them quickly if you play often.

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The problem I have with ABS blades is that they feel so heavy. That's why I would like to take a standard stick that I normally use and put something on the bottom to protect it.

I thought about a layer of duct tape and whether or not that might work.

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No tape is going to work, I've tried lol.

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Yep the tape is gone after about 3 shots. Wood blade with ABS core is the way to go.

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What about not necessarily a tape? What about some sort of agent that starts off as a liquid or a putty and hardens?

Or would the only way perhaps be to have some kind of smooth edge metal fabricated to fit the bottom of the blade?

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I strongly advise against the Easton Synergy ABS blades. They split at the bottom and then they suck, similar to what most of the new composite blades would do on a rough surface.

You do want to look for a blade with an ABS core, but it should also either be made with wood or composite. Honestly, the cheaper priced blades are what you need for street hockey. You can still find a lot of Koho and CCM junior blades that are perfect. Some of the old Montreal blades that will work to if you can find them.


Here's a couple of blades that have worked for me:

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior


Once you find the right one for you, buy plenty. They're cheap, probably on their way out, and most importantly you'll go through them quickly if you play often.
It looks like Easton went back to their old design for ABS blades on the 2012 Synergy blades, so they may not be as prone to break apart.

I find the Reebok (Koho) Ultimate or CCM (Koho) Crossover blades to work well for street hockey as far as lifespan/price. As stated in this thread, the CCM is stiffer, but more expensive.

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rub wax on the bottom maybe that'll help

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rub wax on the bottom maybe that'll help
It won't.

If you want to fabricate some metal on the bottom then go ahead. But I would honestly save the time and effort and just stick with ABS...it's not difficult.

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I strongly advise against the Easton Synergy ABS blades. They split at the bottom and then they suck, similar to what most of the new composite blades would do on a rough surface.

You do want to look for a blade with an ABS core, but it should also either be made with wood or composite. Honestly, the cheaper priced blades are what you need for street hockey. You can still find a lot of Koho and CCM junior blades that are perfect. Some of the old Montreal blades that will work to if you can find them.


Here's a couple of blades that have worked for me:

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior

http://www.hockeyworld.com/index/pag...+Blade-+Junior


Once you find the right one for you, buy plenty. They're cheap, probably on their way out, and most importantly you'll go through them quickly if you play often.
I've used those before, I like the eastons' cause they're just a bit lighter than those. But this is only for street hockey so I can scrape as much pavement as I want.

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What about not necessarily a tape? What about some sort of agent that starts off as a liquid or a putty and hardens?

Or would the only way perhaps be to have some kind of smooth edge metal fabricated to fit the bottom of the blade?
I'm a metallurgy engineer/raw materials specialist for a manufacturing firm (CNC machining, stamping, injection molding, etc) and if there is some sort of spray out there so I can use the same ice sticks for road hockey I would have heard about it by now. Any sort of metal attached to the bottom of the blade would make it significantly heavier and would have a hard time staying attached. Sorry, but we're all just going to have to deal with those godawful ABS blades.

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Best blades ever are those Montreal M95. They might be extinct though. I stopped using them because I couldn't find a good shaft to balance with them, but maybe I'll try and pick up an old Z-Bubble from 10 years ago or something. Great for outdoors.

I will say I have a Vapor XXXX blade that I've been using for outdoor play (tennis courts, sidewalks, just anything like that) for the last 2-3 years and it's been a tank. The bottom 1/4" is worn down ridiculously but it's still going strong.

If you can find an old Vapor XXXX, Warrior Dolomite (pre HD/DD/etc), or Mission pro stock blade, those are worth checking out. You might also try the Base hockey replacement blades.

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I'm a metallurgy engineer/raw materials specialist for a manufacturing firm (CNC machining, stamping, injection molding, etc) and if there is some sort of spray out there so I can use the same ice sticks for road hockey I would have heard about it by now. Any sort of metal attached to the bottom of the blade would make it significantly heavier and would have a hard time staying attached. Sorry, but we're all just going to have to deal with those godawful ABS blades.
This is kind of what I was looking for. I thought that maybe we could take something not generally used for hockey and apply it to the bottom of a blade assist with durability.

What about something solely to help with the drag factor? Something to simply make the bottom of the blade more slick and not necessarily more tough?

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This is kind of what I was looking for. I thought that maybe we could take something not generally used for hockey and apply it to the bottom of a blade assist with durability.

What about something solely to help with the drag factor? Something to simply make the bottom of the blade more slick and not necessarily more tough?
If you have the money I guess you can get a hockey blade made out of Torlon or some other high performance plastic. I figure it'll cost you around $1000 per blade.

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What about those CCM blades that had Texalium? That might be another option.

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Texalium is pretty much fiberglass and would be terrible.

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It wasn't made exclusively out of Texalium, it was a mix of that and wood. A buddy had a wood stick with one of those blades and the thing was indestructible.

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I've heard that the Warrior Bentley blades are pretty good for outdoors because they're solid and have no foam core.

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It wasn't made exclusively out of Texalium, it was a mix of that and wood. A buddy had a wood stick with one of those blades and the thing was indestructible.
I don't know how he was using that for street hockey. Eventually all of the fiberglass on the bottom will chip away leaving you with the wood core and we all know how wood reacts to being dragged around asphalt when it comes to street hockey. It'd be fine for ice because the fiberglass would keep water from getting into the wood core.

ABS core blades are ideal for street hockey not only for its price point but because it doesn't chip, it gradually wears down. It might not be the lightest plastic but unless you have the ability to manufacture a hockey blade with high performance plastics it's your only option.

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