HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > National Hockey League Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
National Hockey League Talk Discuss NHL players, teams, games, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

A New Jersey vs. Phoenix Final.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-13-2012, 03:19 PM
  #151
Jossipov
Patty's Better
 
Jossipov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Arlington, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,552
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanon View Post
Certainly wouldn't watch, but would cheer for Phoenix.
You wouldnt watch the SCFs? Really?
What is there a Sex in the City Marathon on?

I really cant wrap my head about this mentality at all.

Jossipov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:20 PM
  #152
King Henrique
¡ɹǝʌo s,ʇı ¡ǝnbıɹuǝɥ
 
King Henrique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 2,495
vCash: 500
anyone who wouldn't watch the Stanley Cup Finals is clearly not a fan of hockey.

King Henrique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:31 PM
  #153
MartysBackup
Who wants Wawa?
 
MartysBackup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Bel Air, MD
Country: United States
Posts: 381
vCash: 500
The bigger the population, the more exciting the hockey.

Duh.

MartysBackup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:33 PM
  #154
devilsarmy17
Registered User
 
devilsarmy17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 433
vCash: 500
I'll Fly to Phoenix for below face value Cup tickets.

devilsarmy17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:36 PM
  #155
Fish on The Sand
Untouchable
 
Fish on The Sand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Nanaimo
Country: Canada
Posts: 52,249
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jossipov View Post
Drew 1.5 million people, or were there 1.5 million people in Manhattan that day? To give you some perspective there were slightly less than 1 million people in the Times square area for New Years this year.

Ya, either delusional or cant count
http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=493985

or 100% correct

Fish on The Sand is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:41 PM
  #156
WingsFan95
Registered User
 
WingsFan95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,852
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by parise4mvp View Post
anyone who wouldn't watch the Stanley Cup Finals is clearly not a fan of hockey.
Yeah, cause I'm going to watch Games 1, Games 2 and Games 3 of two teams I have no feelings towards?

If it's an elimination game I'll probably watch, but don't act like a Wings fan living in Toronto should care about, say, a Devils vs. Kings final, etc.

I seriously have zero feeling towards any of the teams left but feel like it would be the ultimate troll for Phoenix to win.

WingsFan95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 03:56 PM
  #157
Lundface*
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,907
vCash: 500
It's pretty obvious the final will be LA and NYR. Yay for dream final, except I think it won't be the original 6 team winning this year.

Funny that Jersey would be the team that might make the final bearable. LA vs NYR would be something else, first team to score wins Insulate the **** out of the goalie and grind out a win. Love what the league has become

Lundface* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 04:30 PM
  #158
Jossipov
Patty's Better
 
Jossipov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Arlington, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,552
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand View Post
Oh, well if the Rangers website says so.
Meh, ok hooray for bandwagon fans who probably thought the Rangers were a basketball team (How many did the Mets bring out when they won the World Series?...now that's some NYC Sports band wagoning). That you feel the need to look down on other teams based on how fabulous NYC parades are....well whatever floats your boat I guess.
You know what's cooler than having a big parade 20 years ago? Winning the cup 3 (4?) times since then.

Edit: Forget parades anyway. Throwing parties in the park with craft beers, DJs, and giant plates of food is how you celebrate!


Last edited by Jossipov: 05-13-2012 at 04:57 PM.
Jossipov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 04:50 PM
  #159
Oak
Hockey Connoisseur
 
Oak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 2,669
vCash: 397
Youd think the league would be a little easier on fighting considering how high ratings the Pens-Flyers series got. People I know who never watch hockey were talking about it. It was definitely exciting.

Oak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 04:59 PM
  #160
Riddum
Registered User
 
Riddum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,476
vCash: 500
For some reason, hockey fans still believe that NJ is the same team it was in 2003.

Riddum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 05:12 PM
  #161
Punkeater
Registered User
 
Punkeater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Montreal
Posts: 633
vCash: 500
I think it would be a good thing for the league and hockey in general to have a low profile team like Phoenix go to SCF. It would help revitalize Phoenix market and as much as I want the Nordiques back.

I think it will be done with expansion and not with Phoenix. The last team that won the Stanley cup last in the Big 4 is NJ. Rangers won in 1994. I'll probably be cheering for Phoenix just because of everything's going on there. Would be a great story to save their franchise with an unexpected Stanley Cup.

Punkeater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 05:51 PM
  #162
TheUnseenHand
Hashbrown Selfie
 
TheUnseenHand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Appleton, WI
Country: United States
Posts: 20,371
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by UCantHandleMyRiddum View Post
For some reason, hockey fans still believe that NJ is the same team it was in 2003.
When you essentially perfect a particular style, that style of play is pretty much forever associated with you.

They don't play that way anymore. They can't. They don't have the horses on D to get it done. However, they do have the big guns on offense to push the pace in the offensive zone, which is what they now do. However, every hockey analyst from the beginning of the playoffs until the end has and will always talk about how the Devils are a suffocating defense first system. Except Pierre. As much as I think that guy is a total creep, he actually understands hockey and knows the Devils don't play that style anymore.

TheUnseenHand is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 05:54 PM
  #163
GordieHoweHatTrick
Registered User
 
GordieHoweHatTrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 14,254
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 27Niedermayer View Post
Why do people care so much about ratings and market sizes? None of you work for NBC or the NHL. The NHL is locked into a contract with NBC. Fans shouldn't care if a big market team makes the Finals or not (unless your team is a big market team).

If you don't have a team still alive, just root for the team that you think plays the most exciting brand of hockey to win and move on, not for the team that plays in a bigger market.
I wouldn't watch. Not excited over the prospect of watching either of these teams play for the cup. I'd probably tune in to the deciding games if I have nothing else to do and root for Mike Smith.. err.. the Coyotes

GordieHoweHatTrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 05:57 PM
  #164
TheUnseenHand
Hashbrown Selfie
 
TheUnseenHand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Appleton, WI
Country: United States
Posts: 20,371
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordieHoweHatTrick View Post
I wouldn't watch. Not excited over the prospect of watching either of these teams play for the cup. I'd probably tune in to the deciding games if I have nothing else to do and root for Mike Smith.. err.. the Coyotes
Out of curiosity, what exactly would make you more interested in a Rangers-LA final (or would you not be interested in that either)?

TheUnseenHand is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 06:01 PM
  #165
Novak Djokovic
MARC METHOT's #1 FAN
 
Novak Djokovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,703
vCash: 500
I still cannot believe that people think Jersey is less exciting to watch than the Rangers. Are you ****ing kidding me? New Jersey is the most exciting team left in the playoffs.

Stop living in the past.

(Oh, and btw, I'm a Sens fan)

Novak Djokovic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 06:39 PM
  #166
Moe Syzlak
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 254
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheUnseenHand View Post
When you essentially perfect a particular style, that style of play is pretty much forever associated with you.

They don't play that way anymore. They can't. They don't have the horses on D to get it done. However, they do have the big guns on offense to push the pace in the offensive zone, which is what they now do. However, every hockey analyst from the beginning of the playoffs until the end has and will always talk about how the Devils are a suffocating defense first system. Except Pierre. As much as I think that guy is a total creep, he actually understands hockey and knows the Devils don't play that style anymore.
Why can't there be more posts like this? And why can't non-Devils fans actually read these instead of saying the Devils are "defense first"?

Moe Syzlak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 07:03 PM
  #167
NJD21
Registered User
 
NJD21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 370
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
Yeah, nothing quite as exciting as a pirouette and dive to the ice by Kessler, Burrows, or Luongo.

NJD21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 08:05 PM
  #168
MyersMagic57*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: South Buffalo, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,420
vCash: 500
The Devils are scoring on a pace of 3 goals per game right now. LA is just below them followed by Phoenix and Rangers have the lowest pace of goals per game in the playoffs.

A devils-phoenix series actually might be pretty entertaining and relatively high scoring as opposed to a Rangers-Kings SCF which would likely see a lot less scoring than a devs-yotes series

MyersMagic57* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 08:12 PM
  #169
DownFromNJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,536
vCash: 500
Seriously people, we don't have to invent new ways to bash the Devils every week.

There will be two teams in the final. Whether or not there's 20% more people watching because the Rangers or Kings are playing, it isn't all that much money in the grand scheme of things. The NHL measures its success in seasons, not individual series. The league is healthy and making money.

And seriously, the Devils are an offense-oriented, exciting team built on young, charismatic, highly skilled forwards, one of the best goaltenders of all time, and a classy, disciplined organization that is the envy of professional sports teams throughout the country. If the final is boring, it won't be because of the New Jersey Devils.

DownFromNJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 09:07 PM
  #170
Big McLargehuge
Global Moderator
Bitter Buffalo
 
Big McLargehuge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Country: Iceland
Posts: 58,908
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serbian Power View Post
I still cannot believe that people think Jersey is less exciting to watch than the Rangers. Are you ****ing kidding me? New Jersey is the most exciting team left in the playoffs.

Stop living in the past.

(Oh, and btw, I'm a Sens fan)
Pens fan rooting for the Kings agreeing.

The 2012 Devils are a far cry from the 2002 Devils.



NBC would absolutely hate that final, but the NHL probably wouldn't be shedding any tears. NBC is definitely rooting for New York-Los Angeles, though.

__________________
“The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile, but that it is indifferent. If we can come to terms with this indifference and accept the challenges of life within the boundaries of death, our existence as a species can have genuine meaning and fulfillment. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light.” - Stanley Kubrick
Big McLargehuge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 09:40 PM
  #171
saffronleaf
Registered User
 
saffronleaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Country:
Posts: 3,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews View Post
Do you actually think its braggable that your fans outnumbered another teams fans in your own building?????? Isnt that pretty much normal for every team ever?
Come on, it's something worth bragging about. Newark is in between NYR and PHI, two historic franchises.

Think about it like Ottawa -- in between Toronto and Montreal. Ottawa always gets invaded by Leafs fans and Habs fans when the respective teams play in Ottawa. It'd be a pretty big deal for Ottawa if they were able to outnumber Leafs fans (e.g., 80% Sens fans 20% Leafs fans) during a playoffs match-up between the two.

Not only is it the issue of proximity (Newark is pretty close geographically to NYC and PHI just like Ottawa is somewhat close to TOR and MTL), it's also the issue of the fanbase being split. North Jersey has a lot of Rangers fans and South Jersey has a lot of Philly fans. Again, similar to Ottawa. A lot of anglophones in Ottawa are still Leafs fans and a lot of francophones in Ottawa are still Habs fans.

saffronleaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 10:06 PM
  #172
saffronleaf
Registered User
 
saffronleaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Country:
Posts: 3,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnyC View Post
What's the big deal?

Since the first lockout, we've had:

1996: Colorado vs Florida
1999: Dallas vs Buffalo
2003: Anaheim vs NJ
2006: Edmonton vs Carolina
2007: Anaheim vs Ottawa

So what if one or both finalists are small hockey markets, it's still a SCF and it's not going to destroy the NHL.
Yea, and lets not forget Calgary vs Tampa

saffronleaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 10:07 PM
  #173
saffronleaf
Registered User
 
saffronleaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Country:
Posts: 3,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingPuckChoo View Post
thats what frightens me about the NHL...

i feel its very taboo to talk about how Carolina, Tampa Bay and Anaheim won cups...

as if something was fixed...

and now you have Phoenix...

all this scares me mostly because i refuse to believe that the NHL would do this

the kid in me does not want to believe that its all business!
I hope you're being sarcastic, because three of the last four Cups were won by Original Six teams (Detroit, Chicago and Boston).

saffronleaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 10:07 PM
  #174
Jossipov
Patty's Better
 
Jossipov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Arlington, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,552
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by saffronleaf View Post

Not only is it the issue of proximity (Newark is pretty close geographically to NYC and PHI just like Ottawa is somewhat close to TOR and MTL)
What's worst is that's the understatement of the century. Ottawa is something like 200 miles from Toronto. New York City to Newark is about 8 miles. I dont think a lot of people from outside understand just how close the Rangers and Devils are geographically. It's not a road trip between arenas...it's a commute to work


Last edited by Jossipov: 05-13-2012 at 10:12 PM.
Jossipov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-13-2012, 10:10 PM
  #175
Ralonzo
Я хочу!
 
Ralonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Virginia
Country: United States
Posts: 6,019
vCash: 500
Send a message via Yahoo to Ralonzo
Kings and Devils are the best forechecking teams left up and down the lineup. I expect them in the Finals.

Ralonzo is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:26 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.