i'm a pens fan. we're part of the original 12. that means 4 more fanbases (including ours) can act smug and entitled every time a hockey discussion takes place. hipsters will say our uniforms are at least in the top 10 due to tradition. its truly an honor to carry my fancard with a false sense of superiority. respect!
Yeah, Original Six should be renamed the Original Two...
Or the Surviving Six.
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... the significance of "the original six" is for 41 years there were only six teams in the league. By far the longest the NHL had ever gone without adding teams. Since then there has been expansion and retraction at a pretty rapid rate in comparison to 41 years.
How are the Blues not one of the 12 original teams in the modern NHL, OP?
Originally Posted by Mr Forever
What's wrong with calling the first 12 teams in the NHL the original 12? If 20 years down the road there was 50 teams and the commissioner referred to these 30 teams that exist today and still existed then as the original 30 would there be an issue?
I think it's been explained a few times already that the Blues weren't one of the first 12 teams in the league. The St Louis Eagles were though, so you have that.
The Original Six actually means something, despite them not actually being the first 6 teams, since they all have a long history and are all still around today. When one of the 1967 expansion teams re-named itself 3 times, then moved to Cleveland, then merged with another one of the 1967 expansion teams (Minnesota) before it itself up and moved to Dallas, there's not exactly the continuity required to give that group a name like "Original Twelve". Especially when 2 more teams got added 3 years later, and there's only remnants of 11 of those 12 teams left today.
Original 12 is just as valid as Original 6, which is a misnomer anyway. Th Original 6 were not the original six.
It's all just marketing anyway. I agree with the point that the teams established from 1967-72 have been around long enough to be as well-established as so-called Original Six. They're no longer new teams in any sense.
The frickin wut? Bettman, words can't even be equated right now. If you ever were to try and push an original 12... my god...
What the hell is the matter with an "original 12"? Those 6 new teams in the 60s were the beginning of a new era for the NHL, which was extremely significant.
The only real problem with the concept though is that 2 of those teams no longer exist. So talking about an "original 12" is like talking about an "original 3" which is actually what existed when the NHL started, only 2 of which continually existed until today.
So if we can use the term "original 6" then we should be able to use the term "original 10"... including St Louis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Los Angeles.
Originally Posted by Inkling
Original 12 is as accurate as Original Six. No big deal.
More like it's as "inaccurate", but I know that's what you mean.
Originally Posted by Breakingbad28
What are the 'Original 12' teams?
Im guessing those are the next 6?
Vancouver would argue that it should've been part of that 67 group to begin with.
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan
Scratch the Sabres and Canucks, they were in '70.
The Class of '67 would be the 4 you mentioned, plus North Stars and Seals.
I would certainly guess that Breakingbad28 knows that.
Originally Posted by kaneone
Or the Surviving Six.
We have a winner... That's what it should've been all along.
Let me know when that catches on. You realize the NHL site sells shirts and jackets with Original Six on them?
There are two problems with Bettman's new term, Original 12...
1) As stated before, there are only 10 "surviving" teams when counting the first modern-day big expansion.
2) The "Original Six" term doesn't refer to the teams that originally existed when the NHL started; it refers to the teams that existed at the time of the first modern-day expansion in 1967. Therefore, to say an "Original 12" or Original 10, it would be like referring to the teams that existed at the time of the second modern-day expansion in 1970, which ultimately would be a fairly trivial distinction.