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05-13-2012, 06:46 AM
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On another note : what's wrong with Canadians or any other country for that matter, liking their nationals more ?
Do you hate everyone except your loved ones?

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I 100% agreed with tonight's coach's corner!!! don cherry was right being very critcal towards ovi, semin as well as giving h.o.f. like status to mike zigomanis

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05-13-2012, 07:06 AM
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Do you hate everyone except your loved ones?
Who mentioned hate ? I certainly did not.
I, sure care more about my own. Don't you ?
Kind of an inane question, but it is what it is.

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05-13-2012, 07:18 AM
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I 100% agreed with tonight's coach's corner!!! don cherry was right being very critcal towards ovi, semin as well as giving h.o.f. like status to mike zigomanis
Cherry wasn't even that critical towards Ovie and Semin, merely pointing out the same kind of mistakes they were doing in the fist period. Besides, he's said several times that he loves Ovie.

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Before these playoffs one could perhaps look beyond Ovechkin's mercurial attitude towards defense, extended shifts, and poor line changes by pointing to his strong point per game average (1.35). This season he improved his defense game to that of an average player and his PPG plummets (0.64). At this point in his career Ovechkin has yet to put together a complete playoff performance. He is by no means a playoff disappointment on the level of Semin and Green; however, it is fair for one to question why a multiple time league regular season MVP has yet to lead an annual pre-season Stanley Cup favorite beyond the second round.
Good point.

I think we have seen the real Ovechkin this playoffs. A risk/reward type player whose time has to be managed according to whether the team needs to score or protect a lead. His offense is not enough to cover the defensive liability factor.

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05-13-2012, 07:53 AM
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Good point.

I think we have seen the real Ovechkin this playoffs. A risk/reward type player whose time has to be managed according to whether the team needs to score or protect a lead. His offense is not enough to cover the defensive liability factor.
Or you could point out that taking away Ovechkin's strength by playing a defensive style hurt him a lot and didn't help the team be any better than before either.

It's kind of funny to say that this is the "real" Ovechkin, when he had four very good playoffs compared to one bad one, but I guess it's easier to just dump on players instead of looking at what they have actually accomplished. Ovechkin hasn't been the same lately, but it doesn't make any sense to put down his performances just because of one bad run in an off-year.

There have been plenty of all offense hardly any defense players who performed well in the playoffs and had success with their teams. To assume that such a player always needs to have his icetime managed is absurd. There is more to team-success than one player.

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05-13-2012, 08:05 AM
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The "not backchecking" example is something I see a lot in the media and it infuriates me. Highlight a particular player that isn't sprinting back to the D zone and assume they're lazy or don't care. Milbury and McGuire are the worst offenders of this.

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05-13-2012, 08:07 AM
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I'm sure that guys like Stevie Yzerman, Ray Bourque and Cam Neely got dumped on and criticized for their horrible years and not stepping up before they finally won a cup. (Not sure if Neely ever won one.) Right?

Blasting Semin for failing in playoffs? Yes that stand sup but not Ovechkin.

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Or you could point out that taking away Ovechkin's strength by playing a defensive style hurt him a lot and didn't help the team be any better than before either.

It's kind of funny to say that this is the "real" Ovechkin, when he had four very good playoffs compared to one bad one, but I guess it's easier to just dump on players instead of looking at what they have actually accomplished. Ovechkin hasn't been the same lately, but it doesn't make any sense to put down his performances just because of one bad run in an off-year.

There have been plenty of all offense hardly any defense players who performed well in the playoffs and had success with their teams. To assume that such a player always needs to have his icetime managed is absurd. There is more to team-success than one player.
I wasn't criticizing his play. I thought his offensive output was OK. Although his PPG was down, he still led his team in scoring.

I was merely pointing out that if he's not producing offensively at the pace he was before his bad defensive skills become more prevalent. Hunter recognized this and managed his time accordingly.

That being said, he had plenty of opportunities to produce more offense than he did. He simply is not the offensive player he was 3 years ago.

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05-13-2012, 09:36 AM
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I'm sure that guys like Stevie Yzerman, Ray Bourque and Cam Neely got dumped on and criticized for their horrible years and not stepping up before they finally won a cup. (Not sure if Neely ever won one.) Right?

Blasting Semin for failing in playoffs? Yes that stand sup but not Ovechkin.
actually yes.

I agree with someone who said Canadian broadcasters watches other nations player with more critical perspective. Because it is not the hockey they think should be played.

As a Red Wings fan, this is no surprise that their is a canadian/north american bias in CBC. There was a time I felt so disgusting about it, but now, I dont even care what those clowns say.

However, compare to what other nations' broadcasters say, (except US) I say CBC is quite alright.

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05-13-2012, 10:27 AM
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They also piled on Malkin while silently ignoring the fact that Crosby was basically invisible for most of the Flyer series.
Really?

I guess we watched different coverage. It seemed to me that they were highly critical of Crosby this post season, especially after game two and three in that series.

Amazing..invisible yet still manages 8 points in a series. What is he were visible, how many would he get???

CBC doesn't hate anyone. I guess if people are looking to deflect attention away from the games and the series their team just lost, this is one method.

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If a guy like Semin was Canadian, I would argue that he would be ripped even more than he was. When Ottawa was choking in the playoffs for many years, Heatley and Spezza got ripped to shreads by the media and the CBC. It has nothing to do with nationality. Also, on a side note, Toronto is home to a pretty large number of Russians, especially in the area I live, and the Russian women here are absolutely gorgeous.

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If a guy like Semin was Canadian, I would argue that he would be ripped even more than he was. When Ottawa was choking in the playoffs for many years, Heatley and Spezza got ripped to shreads by the media and the CBC. It has nothing to do with nationality. Also, on a side note, Toronto is home to a pretty large number of Russians, especially in the area I live, and the Russian women here are absolutely gorgeous.
Absolutely true.

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Absolutely true.
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Oh? Crosby was ripped by PJ Stock after games two and three vs the Flyers. The TSN panel (especially Aaron Ward) also went after him for "not showing leadership". And Crosby ended that series with eight points. Next to Semin, he was heroic.

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They also piled on Malkin while silently ignoring the fact that Crosby was basically invisible for most of the Flyer series.
This is so untrue. All media was highly critical on Crosby. And of course Semin/Ovechkin deserve this. They werent very good, so they dont deserve good feedback. But oh, no way its because of their play by any means "its because they are Russians" Im European myself and i have never noticed anything like this.Useless crying.

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Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we?

Edit: I don't hear the CBC commentators too much, but whenever I watched them this playoffs I haven't really notices a notable anti-Russian bias. Could just be too small a sample size though.
But they did take the Eastern Conference Champs to 7 games. Unless the NHL and TSN standings are wrong and teams have been mismatched through the playoffs...

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Even if they did, so what? They can show bias towards or against whomever they wish. If you don't like it, start your own TV network.

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I'm sure that guys like Stevie Yzerman, Ray Bourque and Cam Neely got dumped on and criticized for their horrible years and not stepping up before they finally won a cup. (Not sure if Neely ever won one.) Right?

Blasting Semin for failing in playoffs? Yes that stand sup but not Ovechkin.
Neely never won a cup...
He also didn't have any horrible years either.

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I 100% agreed with tonight's coach's corner!!! don cherry was right being very critcal towards ovi, semin as well as giving h.o.f. like status to mike zigomanis
Who can argue with that?

Ovie and Semin can only dream of one being a player like Zigomanis.

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Haha. Ovy does deserve every ounce of criticism though. This is one dreadful performance. Starting to believe Hunter as head coach and Ovy can't coexist.
He was still quite obviously their best skater.

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That's alright. Give it a couple more years of scoreless shoving matches and no one but Canadians are gonna watch and play this crap anyways.

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05-13-2012, 02:52 PM
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I wouldn't listen to anything those 2 CBC clowns have to say about anyone. The only players they like have the last name of Sedin and/or wear jerseys with an elongated "C" made of some sort of fish. I mute them when they're on and consider it a waste of the Canadian taxpayers' and sponsors' money which goes towards paying them.
You are right on about everything because listening to Hughson & Simpson is like getting your teeth pulled out one by one. Their love for the Canucks is so obvious that they are biased towards all other teams, especially the Leafs. Plus let's not forget the 3rd clown in Glenn Healy who is equally as bad.

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You are right on about everything because listening to Hughson & Simpson is like getting your teeth pulled out one by one. Their love for the Canucks is so obvious that they are biased towards all other teams, especially the Leafs. Plus let's not forget the 3rd clown in Glenn Healy who is equally as bad.
You know...the thread is titled "CBC hates Russians"

It is not titled "CBC doesn't love Toronto enough" You guys have TSN for that.

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I have no problem with criticizing players when they deserve to be criticized.

But CBC called Ovechkin out on virtually every shift. It was disgusting.

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