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Eastern Conference Finals - (1) New York Rangers vs. (6) New Jersey Devils (II)

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05-13-2012, 08:13 PM
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Didn't show on the score sheet this season, even with you guys playing a more offensive system than us.
it is showing in the playoffs.

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05-13-2012, 08:14 PM
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The Devils played 2 more games this postseason than the Rangers.

But I guess they're battered and beaten down!

Torts is very strict on conditioning and has a camp set up at the beginning of the year. I don't think there are very noticeable injuries on defense since none of them have struggled despite playing the minutes.

All top 4 defenders have played these minutes all year long, playoffs are no different.

I'd argue that Callahan is playing injured/tired since he leads the playoffs in TOI amongst forwards. That's pretty big of a burden to ask of him. His play hasn't been the same either. Very concerned about him.
The Rangers looked lethargic in game 6 and 7. Lundqvist won you both series. 5 on 5 youve been outplayed by the 8 and 7 seed. The Rangers have been playing playoff Hockey all year. Its showing. The thing is, you have an impenetrable fortress of a goaltender.

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You also had the pleasure of playing the Flyers and BryzLOLov. Same team gave up double digits in one game in the opening round. 10 goals in one playoff game. Think about that.

The Rangers were 6-0 against that team this season. If anyone knows the defensive inadequacies of the Flyers, it's us.

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The Rangers looked lethargic in game 6 and 7. Lundqvist won you both series. 5 on 5 youve been outplayed by the 8 and 7 seed. The Rangers have been playing playoff Hockey all year. Its showing. The thing is, you have an impenetrable fortress of a goaltender.
Rangers looked lethargic in game 7?

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05-13-2012, 08:17 PM
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Didn't show on the score sheet this season, even with you guys playing a more offensive system than us.
Cool. The guy I quoted wanted a breakdown, here's mine.

Kovalchuk > Gaborik
Parise > Richards
Elias > Callahan

Then I'm not really sure who the Rangers consider their best players after that, but I'm sure the Devils would still have the edge with Zajac, Henrique, Clarkson. Also, what happened to all the Ranger fans saying regular season meant nothing? What matters is NJ's offense has badly outplayed NYR's so far in the post season.

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You also had the pleasure of playing the Flyers and BryzLOLov. Same team gave up double digits in one game in the opening round. 10 goals in one playoff game. Think about that.

The Rangers were 6-0 against that team this season. If anyone knows the defensive inadequacies of the Flyers, it's us.
If Bryz was in net for the Rangers, they wouldve gotten knocked by Ottawa in 5 games.

Like I said, Lundqvist decides the Rangers fate. They will be outplayed 5on5 by any of the 3 teams left.

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They will be outplayed 5on5 by any of the 3 teams left.
You didn't watch the Rangers much this season, obviously.

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05-13-2012, 08:21 PM
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No games have been played. And we're on part 2.

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You didn't watch the Rangers much this season, obviously.
Season means nothing. Ask Vancouver. In the playoffs, against teams really trying, the Rangers are getting outplayed and tanking their way to wins.

Theyre tough as hell. Ill give them that.

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05-13-2012, 08:25 PM
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Tanking their way to wins.
It's comments like these that make me feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle here. Just impossible to have an intelligent discussion.



Good luck this series. Though I'm sure you're convinced you won't need it.

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Pulling for the Devils, but expecting the Rangers to win in a very close series.

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Cool. The guy I quoted wanted a breakdown, here's mine.

Kovalchuk > Gaborik
Parise > Richards
Elias > Callahan

Then I'm not really sure who the Rangers consider their best players after that, but I'm sure the Devils would still have the edge with Zajac, Henrique, Clarkson. Also, what happened to all the Ranger fans saying regular season meant nothing? What matters is NJ's offense has badly outplayed NYR's so far in the post season.
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tanking their way to wins.
How?

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You can't be serious...

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nope
It's pretty close, but obviously homerism will be involved. I'm sure if you made a poll it would be split, but I'd much rather have Parise on my team.

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It's comments like these that make me feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle here. Just impossible to have an intelligent discussion.



Good luck this series. Though I'm sure you're convinced you won't need it.
Because getting schooled 5on 5as if the other team is on a powerplay, when all youre doing is blocking shots, is "outplaying" the rest of the league?

The Rangers and Caps both looked SLOW in Game 7. It was like Regular Season Hockey compared to NJ/Philly in terms of pacing.

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Parise - 0.816 points per game in career
Richards - 0.916 points per game in career

Not to mention Richards' post season exploits killing Parise's. He's also having an equal or better playoff this year.

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How so? If talking about point production, then it's Richards
If talking about all around play, then Callahan > Elias

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It was like Regular Season Hockey compared to NJ/Philly in terms of pacing.
Your bias is astounding.

You also seem to be under the impression that wide open, defensively irresponsible hockey equals better hockey. Couldn't be further from the case.

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Because getting schooled 5on 5as if the other team is on a powerplay, when all youre doing is blocking shots, is "outplaying" the rest of the league?

The Rangers and Caps both looked SLOW in Game 7. It was like Regular Season Hockey compared to NJ/Philly in terms of pacing.
Oh come on now. That was a great game.

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Parise - 0.816 points per game in career
Richards - 0.916 points per game in career

Not to mention Richards' post season exploits killing Parise's. He's also having an equal or better playoff this year.
Let me ask you an honest question, try to put homerism aside. Who would you rather have signed to that Richards contract out of the two?

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Because getting schooled 5on 5as if the other team is on a powerplay, when all youre doing is blocking shots, is "outplaying" the rest of the league?

The Rangers and Caps both looked SLOW in Game 7. It was like Regular Season Hockey compared to NJ/Philly in terms of pacing.
Yes, there were sequences where the Caps had a 5-5 Powerplay. But I can't expect you to remember the 5-5 powerplays for the Rangers

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How so? If talking about point production, then it's Richards
If talking about all around play, then Callahan > Elias
Not this year.

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Let me ask you an honest question, try to put homerism aside. Who would you rather have signed to that Richards contract out of the two?
Parise simply because he's younger.

But that has a lot to do with 4+ years from now. Right now, Richards is equal or better.

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I don't like to predict a series when my teams in it but this is devils/rangers

We win in 7 games

If we weren't so beaten up right now after 2 games 7s i would say we had a good chance at winning in 5-6 games

Cant wait for tomorrow and i expect it to be a long tight series because why would i expect anything different

Monday night will be a big game. If we can pull off a win with only 1 day off i will be impressed

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