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05-14-2012, 12:11 AM
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Jack Johnson leaving is excellent example of addition by subtraction...

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05-14-2012, 12:12 AM
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I think I can finally forgive Clowe.
Why did you have a problem with Clowe?

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05-14-2012, 12:15 AM
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Why did you have a problem with Clowe?
You don't remember all the threads about him playing the puck from the bench? Kings fans were not happy about that.

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05-14-2012, 12:16 AM
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Why did you have a problem with Clowe?
Yeah, not like he played the puck from the bench to stop a 3-on-2 or anything.

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05-14-2012, 12:19 AM
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When you watch the playoffs, the games being played in the Eastern conference look like all the other games (except for that bizarre display by the Penguins).

When you watch the Western conference, every team is playing on overdrive and every game and shift is played all out by every (now 2) teams

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05-14-2012, 12:22 AM
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the western conference really is a crapshoot in the regular season. they weren't far from finishing in different seeds. every team in the west has a high quality product that isn't blatantly superior to another team's.

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05-14-2012, 12:31 AM
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The west was that tough. Plus they got a better coach half way through. They didn't get a settled healthy Carter till just about playoffs and finally someone showed confidence in Penner (which he needs I think)

That is my answer.

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05-14-2012, 12:34 AM
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When you watch the playoffs, the games being played in the Eastern conference look like all the other games (except for that bizarre display by the Penguins).

When you watch the Western conference, every team is playing on overdrive and every game and shift is played all out by every (now 2) teams
Wow...

I still don't get this ridiculous obsession over which conference is better. Yeah the east coast doesn't get a lot of coverage from out west when it comes to mainstream hockey news, but I don't remember anybody ever clamouring that the east was better than the west a few years ago.

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05-14-2012, 12:44 AM
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Wow...

I still don't get this ridiculous obsession over which conference is better. Yeah the east coast doesn't get a lot of coverage from out west when it comes to mainstream hockey news, but I don't remember anybody ever clamouring that the east was better than the west a few years ago.

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There is nothing wrong with that poster's opinion though. I've watched games from both conferences and the West, come playoff time, is always balls out game play. East is like any regular season game that can extend to multiple OTs.

You must be an OTT/TO/MTL fan to take that post as a slight against the East.

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05-14-2012, 12:54 AM
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Wow...

I still don't get this ridiculous obsession over which conference is better. Yeah the east coast doesn't get a lot of coverage from out west when it comes to mainstream hockey news, but I don't remember anybody ever clamouring that the east was better than the west a few years ago.

Grow up!
I don't think you are on topic for this thread.

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05-14-2012, 01:34 AM
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Coaching and offense struggling pre-Carter mainly.
Exactly. They were the lowest scoring team in the league I believe... they should just be happy they made it to the playoffs at all.

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05-14-2012, 01:37 AM
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In actuality, they're better than the 8th seed. They were 2 wins away from being 3rd.
And two wins from not making the playoffs all together.

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05-14-2012, 01:58 AM
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Don't forget the Kings were well, 3 points away from the #3 seed. So the #8 finish is really misleading.
... or you could say the #3 finish is misleading, since the # of points for it was so low.

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05-14-2012, 01:59 AM
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they haven't even made it far in the playoffs yet

won 2 series out of 4, half way there

big deal
They are one of the last four teams remaining.

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The west was that tough. Plus they got a better coach half way through. They didn't get a settled healthy Carter till just about playoffs and finally someone showed confidence in Penner (which he needs I think)

That is my answer.
Good answer, sire.

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There is so much misinformation in this thread it's not even worth quoting it all.

Over the last 15 games of the season the LA Kings were the best team in the league.

Mostly, adding Jeff Carter (great 2-way forward) and losing Jack Johnson (defensive disaster) really got them going.
This is essentially the answer. Terry Murray held the team back offensively, we lost Richards to a concussion when he was on an offensive tear and it took him a while to regain form, we lost Gagne to injury which disrupted the top 6, and our veteran depth signings didn't pan out and slowed down the team. By hiring Sutter, ejecting the slow veterans and infusing youth throughout our depth, making the Carter trade, rebalancing the lines and getting everyone healthy again except Gagne is why they are playing so well now.

People act like LA came out of no where, but LA is 18-3-3 in the Kings last 24 games. Since the trade deadline, they maintained being one of the best defensive teams in the NHL and awakened their offense and became one of the best offensive teams in the NHL. Obviously when you have a combination of the two, you are going to run hot.

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You don't remember all the threads about him playing the puck from the bench? Kings fans were not happy about that.
I forgot about that.

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05-14-2012, 07:39 AM
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I think this sums it up pretty good.
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Needed a coaching change to turn things around.

Needed Quick just to get in the playoffs.

Gagne going down hurt the balance of lines. Carter brought balance back.

Moreau and Hunter replaced by Nolan and King on the bottom lines.

Voynov enabled Lombardi to trade JJ for help.

Finished two points behind Coyotes for 3rd in the conference.

Doughty missed training camp.

Richards had a concussion early.

Brown woke up.



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05-14-2012, 07:43 AM
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Umm your forgeting vancouver is in an easy division... any other division they would be at max the #6 seed. St louis first year in playoffs since being sweeped years ago.......
how about the south east?

and to the OP they just underachieved

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05-14-2012, 07:55 AM
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It's a pretty simple answer.

They weren't playing like this all year.

Nothing wrong with that either. Any decent marathon runner will tell you the most dangerous kind of lead is a small one. You never know how much the guys right behind you have left for that final sprint down the home stretch to the finish line.

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05-14-2012, 08:18 AM
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They underachieved and suffered from bad coaching until Darryl Sutter came along.

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05-14-2012, 12:43 PM
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take the standings
Van
STL
Phx
Nas
Det
Chi
SJ
LA

mix it up and alot of teams wouldnt look out of place... everyteam able to beat any of those teams ...no weak links....maybe SJ had more holes but still a dangerous team.


8th team equals a solid team in the west

great goaltending and solid defensive sufficating works in the playoffs.

Top line supported well scoring key goals.

faced a team without their best forward(most of ) in the first rd.....very similiar to LA (sans Kopitar vs SJ)last year

all their role players playing very well from stoll to king to voynov to even Penner actually showing up.

key goals at the right time....PK ..with Shorthanded goals.....

31 gf 19ev 4ppg 4shg 4EN .........special teams(PK) carrying this team with key goals during gms


also less pressure going in and playing on the road...able to quickly turn the tables and put pressure on the home teams

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05-14-2012, 12:46 PM
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Things happen where good teams don't get bounces and what not. It was extended for LA and IMO they are playing how they should have played all year, right now.

A lot of playoff guys on this team too. Well built for the grind.

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05-14-2012, 02:00 PM
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They have the offensive ability. If they score 0.5 or 1 goal more a game on average, look at what it does for them.

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Carter helped, Sutter helped, getting Penner going helped, Voynov developing nicely, different team from start to finish.

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