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Jamie McLennan: "Mike Smith is an elite goalie"

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05-13-2012, 09:38 PM
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None of those 3 have really been elite for 5 years straight except Lundy.

You know, one other thing that I find funny is Quick being lumped in with Thomas and Lundy. He's been good for the past 2 years, but it wasn't until this year that he was really ever "elite".
I was going to post that. Did anyone regard Quick as "elite" before this season? If people dog Smith as a one year wonder, until Quick proves otherwise he's one too.

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05-13-2012, 09:49 PM
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I was going to post that. Did anyone regard Quick as "elite" before this season? If people dog Smith as a one year wonder, until Quick proves otherwise he's one too.
The big difference is that Quick has been in the league for 4 years now, and has been pretty good for the most part. The whole "elite" label, as I said earlier, comes by putting consistent numbers as a goalie. So yeah, you could say this is Quick's "first" season as elite.

Meanwhile, Smith, while being older, has had a very up and down start of his career. It doesn't mean he's bad. It doesn't mean it's too late at all. But it's harder to tag him as an elite goalie.

Looking at Quick, you could say he's just a young guy coming into his own and becoming better year after year. You can't say the same for Smith, it's easier to regard him as a one-year wonder. Which he very well might not be.

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05-13-2012, 09:59 PM
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I was going to post that. Did anyone regard Quick as "elite" before this season? If people dog Smith as a one year wonder, until Quick proves otherwise he's one too.
Quick is 26 and has been in the league for 4 years and has been on a steady upward progression in that time. Smith is 30 and had never had more than 14 wins in 6 NHL seasons before this and has meandered back-and-forth between solid back-up and lousy starter.

Quick is more ascending to elite status, as his career projectory has had him pointing for a while now. Smith just blew up all-of-a-sudden after being a mediocre back-up/awful starter throughout his career. Hell, even in the minors and juniors Smith never won more than 25 games in a year...Quick has topped 35 in each of the past 3 seasons.

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Smith isn't close to elite. Let's wait until he can do this for a few more seasons.

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05-13-2012, 10:39 PM
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i think he meant to say "Mike Smith is PLAYING like an elite goalie"

if not, he's crazy

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05-13-2012, 10:45 PM
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He's shown he could play when he was in Dallas, and some in Tampa.

He's been nothing but great in the playoffs, this year and last.

If he can have another season like this year, then yeah, he could be listed highly. But, he's not there yet.

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Smith is this years Jim Carey.
Smith's a rookie?

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05-13-2012, 10:53 PM
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I honestly don't think Coyotes or their fans give a damn if he's an elite goalie or not.

Fact is...it is because of him they were in the playoffs, won a series, then won another series and now have are 4 wins away from the SCF.

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05-13-2012, 10:56 PM
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If he keeps it up he will be Canada's starting goaltender in Sochi.

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05-13-2012, 11:22 PM
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This season only, almost.

Careers, absolutely not.
Exactly .....

McLennan is on drugs

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If he keeps it up he will be Canada's starting goaltender in Sochi.
That would be insulting. The entire country would be insulted.

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05-13-2012, 11:37 PM
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Mike Smith is an elite goalie because he plays for Dave Tippett. Remember when Bryzgalov was an elite goalie? Same goes for a lot of goalies in the NHL.

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The truth is somewhere in between. The defense takes good care of him and lets him see a lot of "safe" shots. On the other hand he makes a lot of excellent, very athletic saves and really does have the talent (and always has), but hasn't been in the right situation for a long, long time.

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I generally disregard anything Jamie McLennan says
Seriously, the guy is relegated to TH2N with Kouleas... Rarely gets any primetime coverage. He's a nice guy, a fellow Edmontonian, but the bottom line is he's a horrible analyst. I concur with your comment.

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05-14-2012, 02:34 AM
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The truth is somewhere in between. The defense takes good care of him and lets him see a lot of "safe" shots. On the other hand he makes a lot of excellent, very athletic saves and really does have the talent (and always has), but hasn't been in the right situation for a long, long time.
Look, someone in this thread has a brain.

Well done, buddy.

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05-14-2012, 02:45 AM
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Smith was a scrub not too long ago. Wasn't Thomas too until his late 30's though? As a goalie, Smith has plenty of time to establish himself as an elite. It will take more than one good season however.

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05-14-2012, 04:49 AM
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He's had a lot of setbacks with concussions and other injuries in the past. Playing behind one of the worst teams in the league for most of his time in Tampa didn't help either. And even last season Tampa wasn't exactly stellar defensively.

But he always had talent and skill. He showed it in last year's playoffs or in his 2nd year in Tampa. He's a very smart player, very athletic, he's big and great with the puck. Phoenix plays very good defense and makes his job a lot easier and he has stated a couple of times now that Coyotes goalie coach Sean Burke has helped him a lot.

He's finally healthy and on a team that is well coached and great defensively that fits his playing style.

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05-14-2012, 06:43 AM
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Smith is this years Jim Carey.
Carey was nowhere near as good as Smith when he won the Vezina.

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05-14-2012, 07:04 AM
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He is this year, but he was terrible back-up last year and a few years before... Give it more than one year.

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Based on this season he is, but overall he is not.

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05-14-2012, 10:18 AM
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Smith is this years Jim Carey.
Except you're completely and utterly wrong.

Jim Carey was complete **** in the playoffs. Smith has been money and is the #1 reason Phoenix is where they are.

10 2 5 455 35 0 4.62 .816

^^ Carey's overall playoff record. LOL.

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I've always been a big Mike Smith fan since Dallas, I like his style and athleticism so it's really nice to see him doing well. Once he starts stringing together good seasons then he will be talked about more, it's just something you can't do after 1 season.

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05-14-2012, 11:49 AM
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Carey was nowhere near as good as Smith when he won the Vezina.
Not sure is sarcasm or just typo.

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05-14-2012, 01:24 PM
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Jamie will push as many goalies up to elite status or great goaltender....then he in fact moves up to fill the vacuum of good goaltenders

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05-14-2012, 01:49 PM
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He says hes up there with Quick, Thomas and Lundqvist. Really? I dont think so
I can't help but wonder what kind of deep and insightful posts you must have made when Thomas came back over to North America.

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Reminds me a bit of the ryan miller situation.

I hope he can continue this incredible play next year.

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