Where I live in California everyone has been following hockey more this year due to the newly added NBC Sports Channel. I've never seen so much Kings gear being worn as there is now.
You cannot try to correlate viewership with entertainment factor. Just because more people are watching the playoffs this year does not mean they are more entertaining than last year. If that were the case then I cant imagine by what factor the Royal Wedding would have been deemed more entertaining than any NHL game.
Entertainment factor cannot be judged by numbers short of hooking up subjects to brain scanners and measuring a neurological response.
You cannot try to correlate viewership with entertainment factor. Just because more people are watching the playoffs this year does not mean they are more entertaining than last year. If that were the case then I cant imagine by what factor the Royal Wedding would have been deemed more entertaining than any NHL game.
Entertainment factor cannot be judged by numbers short of hooking up subjects to brain scanners and measuring a neurological response.
Conversely, if this round had really low ratings, you would be using that as proof that the games were boring.
So no matter what, you will flop around until your opinion is always right. Cute.
No way, you mean to say that a conference semi-finals with LA, New York and Philly (3 of the top 5 most populous US cities) and the Capitals (who have a large following thanks to Ovechkin) along with no Canadian teams taking away from potential viewership produced high ratings? I am shocked!
Conversely, if this round had really low ratings, you would be using that as proof that the games were boring.
So no matter what, you will flop around until your opinion is always right. Cute.
Regardless of your apparent clairvoyance and precognition (which I find quite arrogant), I have no interest in trying to *prove* anything, as cute as it may be. All I am saying is that using viewership numbers are a terrible way to gauge entertainment level. Factors such as accessibility, marketing, interest level and population are often much more important for ratings.
The fact that more people are watching this year is a good indication that people still find playoff hockey entertaining, however it is not a good indication that they are more entertaining than last year, as many factors come into play here.
Please dont make me link the article claiming more people watched a 6am re-run of Family Matters than Pit-Phi 1st round for further evidence.
You cannot try to correlate viewership with entertainment factor. Just because more people are watching the playoffs this year does not mean they are more entertaining than last year. If that were the case then I cant imagine by what factor the Royal Wedding would have been deemed more entertaining than any NHL game.
Entertainment factor cannot be judged by numbers short of hooking up subjects to brain scanners and measuring a neurological response.
Why not? You are actually implying that all those people watch playoffs cause they get bored at the screens? You cannot correlate viewership numbers with your own personal entertainment factor, but im pretty sure im not going to bed at 8pm, sleeping till midnight or 1am to watch a game from 3 to 5am getting zombie mode at work and risking some heavy flak from the missus cause im bored.
I agree with you that these matchups are not interesting or fun for some people.. fx. personally i wouldnt be watching if LA wouldnt be in the race anymore. But in overall it doesnt really matter for ice hockey as such. For league only numbers matter. More viewers means more monies, more monies means more quality and more quality means (hopefully) more viewers.. etc etc.. So in the grand scheme bigger numbers are better for whole system and i dont understand why people are upset by that?
Please dont make me link the article claiming more people watched a 6am re-run of Family Matters than Pit-Phi 1st round for further evidence.
That doesnt really matter, unless you support those numbers with last years numbers with which you canl prove that last year less viewers watched FM and more watched playoffs (since we are not really comparing if FM and PO, but are comparing 2011 PO and 2012 PO.. unless im mistaken?).
I wonder what the ratings are like in Canada. It's great that people are watching in California and Phoenix and those are some really big eastern markets that always draw well. But I know a lot of hockey fans and they aren't watching.
Why not? You are actually implying that all those people watch playoffs cause they get bored at the screens? You cannot correlate viewership numbers with your own personal entertainment factor, but im pretty sure im not going to bed at 8pm, sleeping till midnight or 1am to watch a game from 3 to 5am getting zombie mode at work and risking some heavy flak from the missus cause im bored.
I agree with you that these matchups are not interesting or fun for some people.. fx. personally i wouldnt be watching if LA wouldnt be in the race anymore. But in overall it doesnt really matter for ice hockey as such. For league only numbers matter. More viewers means more monies, more monies means more quality and more quality means (hopefully) more viewers.. etc etc.. So in the grand scheme bigger numbers are better for whole system and i dont understand why people are upset by that?
Not at all. I am saying that just because more people watch A than B it does not mean A is more entertaining than B. Its great that more people are watching now but that is not really indicative of whether these playoffs have been more or less exciting to the unbiased, seasoned fan.
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Why not? You are actually implying that all those people watch playoffs cause they get bored at the screens? You cannot correlate viewership numbers with your own personal entertainment factor, but im pretty sure im not going to bed at 8pm, sleeping till midnight or 1am to watch a game from 3 to 5am getting zombie mode at work and risking some heavy flak from the missus cause im bored.
I agree with you that these matchups are not interesting or fun for some people.. fx. personally i wouldnt be watching if LA wouldnt be in the race anymore. But in overall it doesnt really matter for ice hockey as such. For league only numbers matter. More viewers means more monies, more monies means more quality and more quality means (hopefully) more viewers.. etc etc.. So in the grand scheme bigger numbers are better for whole system and i dont understand why people are upset by that?
He's just saying that the amount of people watching the games has no bearing on the entertainment quality of the games and he's right. Tons of people watch baseball and baseball is still one of the most boring things to watch until the final two innings!
The amount of people doing something or caring about something only means one thing: it the poopular thing to do. Hockey has finally reached the level of indie cred it was destined to garner: very exciting sport that not a whole lot of people cared about for a long time. Hockey is the cool thing right now so it's normal to have increased viewership.
Why not? You are actually implying that all those people watch playoffs cause they get bored at the screens? You cannot correlate viewership numbers with your own personal entertainment factor, but im pretty sure im not going to bed at 8pm, sleeping till midnight or 1am to watch a game from 3 to 5am getting zombie mode at work and risking some heavy flak from the missus cause im bored.
You contradict yourself without even ending your sentence.
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I agree with you that these matchups are not interesting or fun for some people.. fx. personally i wouldnt be watching if LA wouldnt be in the race anymore. But in overall it doesnt really matter for ice hockey as such. For league only numbers matter. More viewers means more monies, more monies means more quality and more quality means (hopefully) more viewers.. etc etc.. So in the grand scheme bigger numbers are better for whole system and i dont understand why people are upset by that?
I don't care if the NHL is making more money. Are you saying hockey was bad in the 70s? 80s? 50s? I don't think I've ever seen hockey as a sport get better because the league is making more money. In fact, that doesn't even make any sense.
Not at all. I am saying that just because more people watch A than B it does not mean A is more entertaining than B. Its great that more people are watching now but that is not really indicative of whether these playoffs have been more or less exciting to the unbiased, seasoned fan.
Yes, i agree with that. Overall viewing numbers cant tell much about entertainment value for a specific group of people.
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He's just saying that the amount of people watching the games has no bearing on the entertainment quality of the games and he's right. Tons of people watch baseball and baseball is still one of the most boring things to watch until the final two innings!
And i agree with that. I was just making a point that he was generalizing a bit to much.
Personally im slowly developing a slight to strong distaste for baseball and i would never watch a game of it. No matter who plays, no matter what they are playing for. But i wont go and say that it has no entertainmant value in general.
You contradict yourself without even ending your sentence.
How am i contradicting myself? Its an honest question btw, im not a native english speaker so maybe i wrote smth wrong. You did notice that my question/statement is rhetorical right?
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I don't care if the NHL is making more money. Are you saying hockey was bad in the 70s? 80s? 50s? I don't think I've ever seen hockey as a sport get better because the league is making more money. In fact, that doesn't even make any sense.
You are missing the point. And im not sure if i want to go there, cause it wont have much to do with OP post anymore.
The OP says that this year playoffs are not boring cause lots of people are watching them. And i agree with that. I also agree that that doesnt mean they are more interesting for every1.
My point was only that if you fall into the other group that doesnt think POs are fun to watch that doesnt mean that you are in the majority. You may still have better taste than majority, you may still have more hockey knowledge that majority but in this specific instance that doesnt matter.
And unless you have some better meters how to measure entertanimant value than viewers numbers we are stuck with them. So let me ask you, how would you measure entertainman value of a hockey match? Objectivly (if that is even a word?).
