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05-14-2012, 12:06 AM
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u mean the style that every single team in the league played when they had a lead. How about the 2 line pass was just an awful and absurd rule and it had to be changed. And let me guess, the trap forced the league to add the trapezoid because you know brodeur trapped the puck behind the net to many times and it didn't let the other teams offense set up a forecheck.
Funny thing is, Marty still does that.

Who wants to bet that they will finally remove the trapezoid the year after he retires?

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05-14-2012, 12:09 AM
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u mean the style that every single team in the league played when they had a lead. How about the 2 line pass was just an awful and absurd rule and it had to be changed. And let me guess, the trap forced the league to add the trapezoid because you know brodeur trapped the puck behind the net to many times and it didn't let the other teams offense set up a forecheck.
Sure, why not.

Seems to me that puck play by goaltenders has been key in this playoffs.

You've been watching them, yes?

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05-14-2012, 12:16 AM
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It's fairly obvious that many people have no idea what a trap is.

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05-14-2012, 12:21 AM
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The Devils will always perpetually be a "trap" team.

And if they are, somehow the trap turned in to something super exciting without me hearing about it. Still don't know where people are getting that NJ or the Kings are boring defensive teams.

Just because a team knows how to play defense doesn't make them boring. Only thing it makes them is better.
devils blew 3-0, 2-0 and 2-0 leads against florida. some trap team.

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05-14-2012, 12:22 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
have you actually been watching the rangers? do they even try to score?

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05-14-2012, 12:24 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
Yeah by letting us set up shop in your zone for almost 55 minutes a game..

and you SOBS still win games that way.

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05-14-2012, 12:25 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
I dunno about that. I'd be happy if we scored 3 goals sometimes this series.

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05-14-2012, 12:29 AM
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I'm convinced people on this board don't know what the trap is.
Pretty much this.

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05-14-2012, 12:32 AM
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The Devils do not run the classic 1-2-2 neutral zone trap unless they are protecting a lead in the late third period. Same as every other team in the league.

More often, the Devils can be observed running a withering 2-1-2 or 3-2 forecheck.
Rangers play 2-1-2 most of the time and NJ a 3-2 ( unless were riding the clock out )

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05-14-2012, 01:08 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
You're kidding right? Isles fan bias aside, the Rangers are one of the most boring teams to watch. They get the job done, I'm not going to bash them for their style, but they have a very opportunistic offense. Don't get me wrong, I don't watch Rags games and fall asleep and the same goes for any defensive team. I'm a fan of hockey first and foremost, so I could really care less if teams play a defensive style even if it isn't as exciting as an offensive power house team.

Good for the Rangers on finding a style that works for them, but the Devils are definitely a more exciting team to watch. You take away Lundqvists spectacular net minding and the Rangers would be painful to watch play.

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05-14-2012, 02:38 AM
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I missread the title

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05-14-2012, 02:47 AM
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They are a "layer" team as is every team that is left in playoffs.

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05-14-2012, 03:33 AM
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u mean the style that every single team in the league played when they had a lead. How about the 2 line pass was just an awful and absurd rule and it had to be changed. And let me guess, the trap forced the league to add the trapezoid because you know brodeur trapped the puck behind the net to many times and it didn't let the other teams offense set up a forecheck.
Actually...uh, that's exactly what happened.

Awkward.

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It's scary to think they might be the most offensive team left.. times have changed

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05-14-2012, 03:55 AM
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What inspired this thread? Just watch the games, you will see the Devils play aggressive and not passive... unless you're _____ing (other T word)

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05-14-2012, 04:23 AM
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Aggressive forecheck =/= Trap

just saying

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05-14-2012, 04:33 AM
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Devils don't trap, unless it's late in the game and they're leading...

They were THE TRAP during the 90s, as this Ranger fan can begrudgingly attest. Those Lemaire-coached Devils trolled the rest of the NHL into tedium and turnovers with that 1-2-2 pyramid around the red line. And then it degenerated into a trend of teams trying to out-bore the other in winning games. Many snores were had
Yet the Devils still trolled the league by being a top 5 scoring team and led the league in scoring in 2000

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05-14-2012, 04:33 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
Yep, backing up to the crease and forming a half circle around your goalie is a blast to watch !

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05-14-2012, 07:46 AM
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As the Devils showed down the stretch against Philly, they can run a 1-2-2 when they're looking to lock down a lead. It's definitely not their normal style though.

So to answer the OP's question, are the Devils considered a trap team? Yes. But the people who consider them that clearly don't watch them often.

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05-14-2012, 08:05 AM
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No.

No.


No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I hope this settles it.

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05-14-2012, 08:13 AM
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Does anyone actually watch the game or know what a neutral zone trap is?

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05-14-2012, 08:16 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
LOL. They have 5 players standing in front of Lund trying to block shots and flopping around the entire game. From several minutes in Game 7, the Caps were on 5 on 5 completing dominating the play in the Rangers zone while you got 6 guys trying to be a goalie.

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05-14-2012, 08:19 AM
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Does anyone still play the 1-2-2 neutral zone trap anymore? The only time i've seen it this year is when the Lightning played... and of course teams will do it when they have the lead with 10 min left in the 3rd, but that's everyone.

Otherwise, i haven't seen the Devils play the trap.. i've seen crazy forechecking, which leads to the other team not being able to get out of their zone for long periods. And i've seen Dmen standing up forwards in the neutral zone... but haven't seen the Devils trap. (Same goes for the Rangers).

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05-14-2012, 08:27 AM
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As far as I can tell, it's rarely ever even used in the NHL anymore aside from when a team is clamping down in the later stages of a game with a one or two-goal lead.

I think Jason MacIsaac said it best: the Devils trap the opposition in their own end with an awesome forecheck.


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Not at all.

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