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05-14-2012, 08:38 AM
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I'm convinced people on this board don't know what the trap is.
Any game where three or fewer goals are scored = trap hockey.

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05-14-2012, 08:40 AM
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we could lead the league in goals by 100 and people would still call us a trap team

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yes absolutely. they trap most of every game. they trap the other team, they trap their own teammates, they trap the pretzel guy, they trap themselves, two guys will trap one guy while 2 other guys tie down a princess to some railroad tracks, and then they trap her as well. trap fap

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05-14-2012, 08:53 AM
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yes absolutely. they trap most of every game. they trap the other team, they trap their own teammates, they trap the pretzel guy, they trap themselves, two guys will trap one guy while 2 other guys tie down a princess to some railroad tracks, and then they trap her as well. trap fap
http://blog.californiapsychics.com/b...the-devil.html

Getting trapped by a devil is your own damn fault anyway

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05-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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That said, every team uses the trap from time to time. It's like the NFL's "prevent defense". It's now a common strategy employed to protect a lead.

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05-14-2012, 10:16 AM
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The basic trap really isn't even that boring, IMO. It can be beaten.

Watching Tampa barely forecheck with one forward while dropping 4 deep into the neutral/defensive zone... now that's boring.

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05-14-2012, 10:19 AM
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No. They have a hell on wheels forecheck.

Deboer tried to implement the same style with the Panthers, and it was working until Olli Jokinen almost decapitated Richard Zednik.

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05-14-2012, 10:39 AM
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If what the Devils do now is consiered playing a trap, some of you really dont know hockey. If you want to talk about a team potentially trapping, look no further than the Rangers. Oh how times have changed. But it's cool when they do it brah.

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05-14-2012, 10:42 AM
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Is this a new trap where they run an agressive forecheck with a third man high?

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05-14-2012, 10:44 AM
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The Rangers will make the game more exciting, don't worry about a boring series.
The irony, it hurts.

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05-14-2012, 10:55 AM
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NJD gets dumped on for that trap, it's going on 20 years now. Watch their games, they are not boring sterotypical trap-type games at all. They are simply a smart, defense-first team. Al Arbour had a team like that years ago. Scott Bowman before him.

Teams don't go deep in the playoffs unless they play the way the Devils do. LA plays that way. So does Phoenix. So does the NYR.

Kovalchuk gives the NJD a whole new dimension. He's every bit the superstar they hoped for when Lou signed him. He's part of a system geared at team success. He's not a selfish player who's looking to pad his stats on a losing team, as many suggested.

Parise's my favourite Devil, plays the game the way everyone should. Zajac and Henrique are also damn good and not the trap-first boring players at all.

They are a team that's fun to watch. Let's get over the stereotyping and watch with eyes wide open.

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05-14-2012, 11:17 AM
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The offensive zone trap! Forechecking the fun out of hockey since 2012!

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05-14-2012, 11:18 AM
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They are a "layer" team as is every team that is left in playoffs.
Ya, don't listen to Pierre McGuire blathering. He doesn't know what he's talking about with the "layered" euphemisms. At the time he said that, the Devils were trapping hard. They don't usually, which is why what he said was nonsense.

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They are a team that's fun to watch. Let's get over the stereotyping and watch with eyes wide open.
Part of the problem is that people often unquestioningly accept the analysis of the announcers on their local broadcast team. Many of these guys are excellent professionals who do their research and recognise that the Devils' system has evolved over the years. However, too many others lazily or dishonestly propagate the trap myth, and that's why we see some fans still showing up with this nonsense belief.

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05-14-2012, 11:57 AM
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Simply put, yes

The Devils play a 0-4-1 system where they just try to tackle people down when they come into the neutral zone. The one guy who is just on the edge of the offensive zone blue line (by an inch or so) is always the guy who scores.



Do people actually watch the Devils? It sure seems like they don't.

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05-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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The only trap I have seen the Devils play this year, was the one they set up for the Flyers and their fans, by allowing them to think they would just let Philly steam roll them

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05-14-2012, 12:35 PM
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Aggressive forecheck is the new trap. You guys didn't know that.


Offensive zone puck cycling is the new trap.

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These stereotypes for teams are dumb.

The Devils aren't a trap team.

Just like how the Philadelphia Flyers aren't the Broad Street Bullies and how the Washington Capitals aren't a run and gun team anymore.

If you want to know what type of a style a team is, watch the games. They're all on national TV.
Get out of here with that logical thinking and whatnot!!! Seriously though this is exactly my thought on the subject.

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05-14-2012, 12:37 PM
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who cares if the trap or not? The Trap is a winning system. No, they haven't played the trap since 2003, hence we haven't won anything since.

Deboer implemented an agressive offensive zone forecheck.

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05-14-2012, 12:39 PM
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The Devils will always perpetually be a "trap" team.
Pretty much, no matter what their style is.

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05-14-2012, 12:44 PM
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No one watches the Devils because they're a boring trap team... but because nobody watches them, no one knows they're not actually a boring trap team.

Hopefully this deep run and extra exposure will help break that cycle.

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05-14-2012, 12:49 PM
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Pretty much, no matter what their style is.
It's a joke among Devils fans (sadly not far from the truth), that the Devils could forecheck with all 5 skaters, routinely hang their goalie out to dry, and win every game 9-8, and still have opposing players, coaches, fans, and broadcasters accuse them of playing the trap.

It is a curious thing that the trap myth only goes away on the rare occasions when the Devils aren't a winning team. When they were **** under MacLean, everyone was happy to admit the Devils don't trap. Now that they've made a deep playoff run under DeBoer, we're seeing a resurgence in the trap accusations. Curious, very curious.

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05-14-2012, 12:51 PM
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If what the Devils do now is consiered playing a trap, some of you really dont know hockey. If you want to talk about a team potentially trapping, look no further than the Rangers. Oh how times have changed. But it's cool when they do it brah.
Oh man, you almost had it there. Then you had to bring up something completely false about the Rangers...maybe next time.

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05-14-2012, 12:55 PM
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I'm convinced people on this board don't know what the trap is.
They don't.

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05-14-2012, 01:22 PM
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We'll never shake that brand, considering that people on these boards, in the media and everywhere in general, have no clue as to what the neutral zone trap is and how it plays out on the ice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_zone_trap

All teams use the 1-2-2 high forecheck in different situations. The Devils used to run it as their primary forecheck system but haven't used it for many, many years. The "Tampa Bay Lightning" 1-3-1 forecheck is a cousin to the "Trap". The 1-3-1 is similar to the system used during past years by the Swedish national team under the name "Torpedo hockey". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_system

When teams other than the Devils employ the 1-2-2, late in games with a lead for example, other phrases like "stout team defense" and "layered defense" are used, mostly by the media, because of the "negativity" associated with the neutral zone trap because of its use by the Devils.

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05-14-2012, 01:53 PM
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Technically, the Devils did trap the Flyers in their defensive zone...with a brutal fast-paced forecheck...

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