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Are the Devils still considered a trap team?

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05-14-2012, 01:42 PM
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The lockout did a great job of killing off the "by the book" version of the trap. Certain coaches still try to utilize it, but those teams are typically bottom feeders or bubble teams.

It can still be very effective late in games, as seen in the PHI/NJD game 5, but you can't win games like you used to by playing the trap 60 minutes. There is a lot of strong defensive play in the league, and fans are quick to call it the trap without really understanding what the trap was; a template strategy for zone coverage which allowed players to basically go through the motions of playing defense.

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Yes, they are. They trap the opposition in their own zone for most of the game. That's trapping to me.

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Does any team NOT go into a 1-2-2 with the lead in the third period?

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05-14-2012, 02:24 PM
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The trap, refs and Bettman were the only reasons why they beat the Panthers in round 1.






On a serious note, I don't think any team plays the trap consistently.

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05-14-2012, 02:30 PM
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The original NJ 1-2-2 trap led to horrible hockey (for spectators) for a decade or more, and led the NHL to eliminate the 2-line pass rule to counteract it.

The unintended consequence of that is the slap-breakout where a defending forward camps on the wall at center ice and when the defending team gets possession they hammer the puck at him in order to tip it into the opposing zone. Bam, 200 feet of ice gained in 1 second. And lots of high speed collisions.
I din't think the two line pass is what's causing the collisions to be honest. But as to New Jersey being a trap team. The trap was pretty much eliminated after the lockout. I do see lots of teams trying to reinvent it tho.

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05-14-2012, 02:57 PM
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the NYR are the only team left who scored more goals in the reg season than NJ, SIX more goals through 82. Only the Flyers have scored more goals than the Devils in these playoffs (thanks largely to MAFleury).

I'd say the NJD are among the most fun teams to watch this year, and in recent years for that matter.

When they won the cup in 2000, they were the 2nd highest scoring team in the NHL.

When they won the cup in 2003 the scored 216 goals, same as this past season

TRAP TEAM = unnecessary, pointless, misnomer for this franchise

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05-14-2012, 03:00 PM
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Do I think the Devils are playing a trap system? No

Do I think the Devils will always be considered a trap team? Yes.

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05-14-2012, 03:31 PM
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Does any team NOT go into a 1-2-2 with the lead in the third period?
No, but seemingly only the Devils are castigated for it. And fans of most other teams will deny it until the cows come home.

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05-14-2012, 03:42 PM
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No but they are still pretty boring to watch.

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No but they are still pretty boring to watch.
so watch a different sport. Golf can be good for you.

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No but they are still pretty boring to watch.
Yikes, dont watch the Rangers then, youll be in a coma!

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Does any team NOT go into a 1-2-2 with the lead in the third period?
The Kings

They send 2 forecheckers ALL GAME LONG.

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05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
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If they move to Quebec they'll finally not be a trap team.

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No but they are still pretty boring to watch.
Kovalchuk and Parise = 4th liner shotblocking plubmers. It's all about the system and brodeur.

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05-14-2012, 05:28 PM
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They had an excellent fore-check against the Flyers.

Some games they totally dominated by winning the battles along the boards and winning the races for the loose pucks.

I'm of the opinion that they are not a trap team, but I didn't watch many of their regular season games, just the playoffs.
Teams that work hard and win puck battles (aka) like the Rangers don't trap. When you trap your not eveing trying it's just pure cheating. I think the New England Patriots would trap if it was allowed in football.

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05-14-2012, 06:09 PM
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Yes, we just moved it up to the opponents trapezoid instead of the neutral zone.

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05-15-2012, 08:08 AM
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The Devils are actually an exciting offensive team this time. The Rangers are even worse than the trap, they just stand around the entire game blocking every shot/pass. Watching the Rangers play was far more brutal than any Minnesota or NJ game from the past.

Though the Rangers are obviously trapping til they are blue in the face, I expect uninformed fans to parrot that Devils are making the gaming boring when the opposite is true, it's the other team in blue.

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05-15-2012, 08:41 AM
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Yikes, dont watch the Rangers then, youll be in a coma!
Yea, the Rangers really went into a shell* last night with that 1-0 lead. What a boring game.



*Im kidding of course, they dominated the Devils from start to finish in the 3rd and extended the lead.

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05-15-2012, 10:27 AM
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Yea, the Rangers really went into a shell* last night with that 1-0 lead. What a boring game.



*Im kidding of course, they dominated the Devils from start to finish in the 3rd and extended the lead.
It was even worse than that, they stayed in the shell for the first two periods and waited for the Devils to expend their efforts, and then pounced on their own opportunities.

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05-15-2012, 10:37 AM
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It was even worse than that, they stayed in the shell for the first two periods and waited for the Devils to expend their efforts, and then pounced on their own opportunities.
You Devil fans really need to get your stories straight. Do the Rangers trap, or do they collapse in the defensive zone to block shots (hint: the latter is correct)?? Ive seen so much misinformation around here regarding how the Rangers play that it just looks like one big batch of sour grapes.

I never chastised the Devils in the mid 90's when they trapped, trapped, and trapped some more no matter the score or the point in the game. You know why? Because they won.

Complaining about the excitement level of a game after your team suffered a shutout loss makes you look like an idiot - just like Ranger fans were idiots who used to throw the same garbage out against the Devils way back when.

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I have never claimed the Rangers trap, but thanks for lumping us all in together.

The Rangers are successful running their system, and I have to admire that, but it's such a strange way to play. Deliberately letting yourself get pinned in your defensive zone for shifts at a time seems odd to me. If you had a lead at the time I'd understand, but the Rangers do it in scoreless ties too.

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05-15-2012, 10:47 AM
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I have never claimed the Rangers trap, but thanks for lumping us all in together.

The Rangers are successful running their system, and I have to admire that, but it's such a strange way to play. Deliberately letting yourself get pinned in your defensive zone for shifts at a time seems odd to me. If you had a lead at the time I'd understand, but the Rangers do it in scoreless ties too.
Well, that part isnt really by design. The Devils were all over a tired team in that 2nd period. Personally, Im surprised the Rangers found that extra gear in the 3rd.

Collapsing in the defensive zone and blocking shots is not the gameplan. Its a last resort when the forecheck is non-existent and the breakout is putrid.

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05-15-2012, 10:58 AM
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I'm sure they're considered one. They aren't, though.

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Well, that part isnt really by design. The Devils were all over a tired team in that 2nd period. Personally, Im surprised the Rangers found that extra gear in the 3rd.

Collapsing in the defensive zone and blocking shots is not the gameplan. Its a last resort when the forecheck is non-existent and the breakout is putrid.
It sure looks like the gameplan since it happens every game... I mean, it's been working but losing is so much more frustrating when your team dominates for periods at a time.

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