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05-14-2012, 12:57 PM
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Uh, coddling? He's the guy that actually got Alexander freaking Semin to be a two-way player.

I'm not sure if Feds would be the best guy to be head coach, but I'd love him on the staff in some capacity.
Apparently Hunter was coddling them as well.

Experience is good and all but given the list of "experienced" coaches out there I'd feel more comfortable with Fedorov than anyone else except MacTavish, and possibly Hartley or Carbonneau. He just really seems like great coach material.

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Ron wilson would fit you guys extremely well. imo.

Don't take his time with the leafs seriously, it was the leafs
We're quite familiar with Ron Wilson.

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Here's an article from two weeks ago handicapping the Flames' head coaching candidates.
The listed candidates:

1. Bob Boughner
2. Cory Clouston
3. Jon Cooper
4. Dallas Eakins
5. Tony Granato
6. Bob Hartley
7. Brad Shaw
8. Mike Sullivan
9. Troy Ward
Cory effing Clouston as the 2nd choice.......wow, he was horrid with the Sens.

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Ron wilson would fit you guys extremely well. imo.

Don't take his time with the leafs seriously, it was the leafs
It wasn`t his time with the Leafs that we`re thinking about, it was the time he played 3 D and 2 forwards with the Caps !

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05-14-2012, 01:10 PM
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Gotta say I am happy about this. I like the London Knights and this makes it look like he will be back with the Knights next year. They have a great team heading to the Memorial Cup right now and we sure could use his expertise in help preparing although I doubt he steps behind the bench for this tournament. Also there will be a lot of returning players from the Knights next year, I hope he can lead them there again next year, maybe even the year after.

Speaking from an outside point of view on the caps, I liked the way he coached. He is the kind of coach that won't take any attitude and one where you have to earn your ice time. He seemed to do great with the caps and, in my opinion anyways, you were a better team with him than without him. Best of luck to you guys next season, if Holtby plays half as good next year as he has these playoffs, you won't even need luck.

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If anything, ice time was more random under Dale than its ever been.

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I don't know if this Feds thing is just a pipe dream for some of you or what, but it was recently reported that he's going to be GM for CSKA Moscow.

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05-14-2012, 01:15 PM
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No reaction until I see who they bring in. I have to believe this was more of an Ovie v. Dale decision as to who to keep, even if they were best buddies, and Dale was never gonna win that.

Hopefully the lesson is to find a coach who plays to the roster's strengths.
I hope that is not the case, for if it is, than the inmates have truly taken over the asylum.

Seen this occur far too often in other sports, i.e. baseball or basketball where the star is dictating or determining the management and direction of the team. Never successful and never ends well.

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I hope that is not the case, for if it is, than the inmates have truly taken over the asylum.

Seen this occur far too often in other sports, i.e. baseball or basketball where the star is dictating or determining the management and direction of the team. Never successful and never ends well.
Not really. I doubt Ovie would ever go ask for a change. More like, GMGM knows he has two assets, one is far more valuable than the other, and they don't work together.

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Somewhere Keith Aucoin is sad.

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Not really. I doubt Ovie would ever go ask for a change. More like, GMGM knows he has two assets, one is far more valuable than the other, and they don't work together.
Yeah, I see it as a simple determination. You figure out which assets you can change and which you can't. You maximize the effectiveness of those you can't by changing those you can.

They can change the coach more easily than they can change Ovi. If DH isn't the one to maximize Ovi, then find someone who is. Note - maximizing Ovi doesn't mean caving to his every demand, of course. But it's still something you simply have to consider.

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I hope that is not the case, for if it is, than the inmates have truly taken over the asylum.

Seen this occur far too often in other sports, i.e. baseball or basketball where the star is dictating or determining the management and direction of the team. Never successful and never ends well.
There is zero evidence that Ovie had anything to do with Dale's decision. That will not stop people from speculating that Ovie was either meddling behind the scenes or simply annoyed Hunter into leaving. But there will never be any evidence attached to it.

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Yeah, I see it as a simple determination. You figure out which assets you can change and which you can't. You maximize the effectiveness of those you can't by changing those you can.

They can change the coach more easily than they can change Ovi. If DH isn't the one to maximize Ovi, then find someone who is. Note - maximizing Ovi doesn't mean caving to his every demand, of course. But it's still something you simply have to consider.
I really don't understand why our own fans are saying this. Every shred of evidence points to the fact that McPhee wanted Hunter to stay and Hunter declined.

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05-14-2012, 01:22 PM
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Personally I liked playoff Ovi way more than the other Ovi and I think a lot/all of it was because of Hunter. Playoff Ovi was becoming a team player and to me seemed much more effective. He still looked out of place doing it but I think he was going in the right direction and was taking big strides. Whoever is your new coach I hope he can get the same out of him and continue to improve him.

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05-14-2012, 01:23 PM
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The talk that he's abandoning a sinking ship is such bollocks.

You really think Dale is that much of a coward?

I think he either didn't care for the hustle and bustle, so to speak, of an NHL coach's life, legitimately had family/farm reasons to leave, missed the teaching and development aspects of coaching in juniors, or this is a cover for firing a franchise icon.

Or maybe he didn't want to buy another suit...
Was in the car driving when I heard it on 106.7. Heard a little of Dale's press conference but even before that the 106.7 radio jocks made an interesting observation that Jimmy Johnson always drove Dale around town where ever they were going, they remarked as you indicated he was not too enamored with the hustle and bustle of the town and driving was just one example of that.

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Somewhere Keith Aucoin is sad.
So is Wideman.

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There is zero evidence that Ovie had anything to do with Dale's decision. That will not stop people from speculating that Ovie was either meddling behind the scenes or simply annoyed Hunter into leaving. But there will never be any evidence attached to it.
This. Ovie played his ass off in far too limited minutes. He improved his defensive play, supported his teammates, and earned some respect even from the hater Canadian media. And what did he get for it? Another Round 2, Game 7 defeat and now blame for Hunter's departure.

Apparently Nicky's very disappointed.

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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."

Damnit no cyborgs.

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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."

Damnit no cyborgs.

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I really don't understand why our own fans are saying this. Every shred of evidence points to the fact that McPhee wanted Hunter to stay and Hunter declined.
I meant it mostly as a response to the "inmates running the asylum" aspect of it. Agreed that DH wanted out on his own. I don't know that he ever wanted to be here to begin with.

That said, I would believe it if you told me GMGM was relieved by this for the reasons stated above.

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I really don't understand why our own fans are saying this. Every shred of evidence points to the fact that McPhee wanted Hunter to stay and Hunter declined.
Let's face facts....fans believe what they want to believe, regardless of the evidence.


Hunter walked away. His choice, the end.

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I'll coach.

Sarge will be my D buddy. They say those who can't play coach.

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Who gives a crap why Dale did any of the weird **** he did, anyway?

Just get us a proven ****ing coach that can get this team past the second round.

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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."

Damnit no cyborgs.
I was hoping to hear "My job has been terminated".

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There is zero evidence that Ovie had anything to do with Dale's decision. That will not stop people from speculating that Ovie was either meddling behind the scenes or simply annoyed Hunter into leaving. But there will never be any evidence attached to it.
I was responding to Mr. Warden's post, but I will say this, we are coming up on three coaches for Ovie. As much as some see the pressure on GMGM, I see just as much pressure on Ovie now.

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