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Just get us a proven ****ing coach that can get this team past the second round.
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I was hoping to hear "My job has been terminated".
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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."
And to pretend that his own job is secure. He forgot that part.

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Would any of you trade a first-round pick for a coach currently coaching elsewhere? If so, who?

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And to pretend that his own job is secure. He forgot that part.
Other than hfboards fan whining, has there been any suggestion from anywhere that his job isn't secure?

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Or we could just wait around a bit to see who gets fired. Is lindy ruff secure in buff? He's experienced anyway.

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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."

Damnit no cyborgs.
Is human the Canadian word for "no NHL coaching experience"?

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Would any of you trade a first-round pick for a coach currently coaching elsewhere? If so, who?
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@TarikElBashir: GMGM: "My job now is to find the best human talent I can find to coach the club."

Damnit no cyborgs.
Cyborgs?

I thought...

It was aliens?

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Would any of you trade a first-round pick for a coach currently coaching elsewhere? If so, who?
Quenneville but he'd have to keep all his friends that are ****** coaches back in Chicago.

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Would any of you trade a first-round pick for a coach currently coaching elsewhere? If so, who?
According to some, we are a team that is "thin" with talent. We can't afford to trade a first rounder!

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Other than hfboards fan whining, has there been any suggestion from anywhere that his job isn't secure?
I dont think it should be too secure. He has been here an awful damn long time, and we havent reached conference finals yet. Also, bad playoff failures after two years as #1 seed. Plus his all-in bets on russians and swedes. I don't think one needs to be whiner to ask whether he has done a good enough job to be kept on.

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trading a 1st for a coach would be pretty stupid

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trading a 1st for a coach would be pretty stupid
But would you do it?

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I was responding to Mr. Warden's post, but I will say this, we are coming up on three coaches for Ovie. As much as some see the pressure on GMGM, I see just as much pressure on Ovie now.
I disagree. This is about management. Leonsis and Patrick and McPhee have failed to build the right organization around Ovie and the young guns, from players to coaches to culture off the ice.

I can't help but think about the story I heard out of LA when they fired their coach mid-season. Lombardi walked into the room and ripped those guys a new one. Told them they cost a good man his job. The culture of responsibility and accountability doesn't come from the players on the ice first. It comes from the front office.

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I can't help but think about the story I heard out of LA when they fired their coach mid-season. Lombardi walked into the room and ripped those guys a new one. Told them they cost a good man his job. The culture of responsibility and accountability doesn't come from the players on the ice first. It comes from the front office.
I guess you can't argue with success, but Lombardi is a tool. Made public disparaging comments about jack johnson 2 years ago when johnson was still central to team's plans, and was rude and arrogant with kovalchuk when he visited for interview. I wouldnt take a page from lombardi regarding anything. And yes, yes, i know his team is marching to cup finals. Still.

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i was just joking. i know you wouldnt. i gathered from your original post.

What about bengt gustafsson? Or have we already filled our quota on former Caps behind bench?

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I disagree. This is about management. Leonsis and Patrick and McPhee have failed to build the right organization around Ovie and the young guns, from players to coaches to culture off the ice.

I can't help but think about the story I heard out of LA when they fired their coach mid-season. Lombardi walked into the room and ripped those guys a new one. Told them they cost a good man his job. The culture of responsibility and accountability doesn't come from the players on the ice first. It comes from the front office.
I'm not sure how you can argue that these players don't have accountability after seeing them in the playoffs this year.

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I guess you can't argue with success, but Lombardi is a tool. Made public disparaging comments about jack johnson 2 years ago when johnson was still central to team's plans, and was rude and arrogant with kovalchuk when he visited for interview. I wouldnt take a page from lombardi regarding anything. And yes, yes, i know his team is marching to cup finals. Still.
Fair enough. I'm not necessarily admiring his management style. Ken Holland is the best of the best and seems almost totally quiet and under the radar. My only point is about the culture you try to build. The Caps have a culture of being satisfied with mediocrity.

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Fair enough. I'm not necessarily admiring his management style. Ken Holland is the best of the best and seems almost totally quiet and under the radar. My only point is about the culture you try to build. The Caps have a culture of being satisfied with mediocrity.
Is he though? His last impact draft pick was before the lockout and his drafting has been meh at best since then. He signed Rafalski and traded for Stuart which were good moves but far from critical, had Hossa beg to play for his team but then let him go to ****ing keep Hudler around. All of the core players that made that team as good as it was have already been there for 10+ years.

I'd really, really like to see just how good Holland is when Lidstrom hangs them up.

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Is he though? His last impact draft pick was before the lockout and his drafting has been meh at best since then. He signed Rafalski and traded for Stuart which were good moves but far from critical, had Hossa beg to play for his team but then let him go to ****ing keep Hudler around. All of the core players that made that team as good as it was have already been there for 10+ years.

I'd really, really like to see just how good Holland is when Lidstrom hangs them up.
You may get that chance very soon.

FWIW, Holland's been in his job the same years as GMGM and in that time, Detroit has won 3 cups, most recently 4 years ago. No one else has won nearly as much over that span. I'd agree he's been less effective in the salary cap era, but he's still got better results than McPhee overall.

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I'm not sure how you can argue that these players don't have accountability after seeing them in the playoffs this year.
I would say Dale imposed some accountability and I credit him for that. But it was also weird and seemingly random at times. More importantly, I don't believe it's reflective if the organization as a whole.

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