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"KRONWALLED!" --- Niklas Kronwall with one of the Biggest Hits of the Year!

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05-16-2012, 03:24 PM
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I'm just sad Karsums wasn't there to be rocked instead.

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05-16-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm just sad Karsums wasn't there to be rocked instead.
Sad that Enstrom didn't get the memo, maybe he wouldn't of chickened out of the tournament.


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05-16-2012, 03:33 PM
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Hey, Swedes, you want to see a real master of body checks? Watch this. No pain, pure and clean physical hockey.

Thats as clean as it gets.. Someone could have shotted in the head easily there, very great job.


Here you see other hit made with back, puck protection ala forsberg.. kronwall happens to be on the taking side, it might help latvians feelings



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05-16-2012, 04:25 PM
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Thats as clean as it gets.. Someone could have shotted in the head easily there, very great job.


Here you see other hit made with back, puck protection ala forsberg.. kronwall happens to be on the taking side, it might help latvians feelings

Too bad the Koivu hit is illegal though (interference)

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05-16-2012, 04:28 PM
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Too bad the Koivu hit is illegal though (interference)
Watched it again and imo its not, because he is in the controll of the puck even thought havent touched it. And kronwall is trying to hit him so it would be illegal by him too then, Koivu is counter-hitting.


Just like in dump an chase you dump the puck and then hit the defender to the boards even before he actually touches the puck, because hes just getting it, allready playing the puck with positioning ect.. same kind of situation, and based on that I think it shouldn't be a penalty. A bit of borderline thought, he should have touched the puck with 1 hand or something first so it wouldn't even be in conversation.

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05-16-2012, 04:42 PM
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To use the "U shud have played tha game", you have to have actually played it.

A defenseman abandoning his position in the deep neutral zone and charging full speed into a hit on the half-wall in the offensive zone while the rest of his team is retreating is incredibly uncommon.

Kronwall lands these hits because players do NOT expect to be hit in this situation. They do not expect to be hit in this situation because there's a lot of X and O risk and very little benefit to this play (unless the objective is to injure the player on purpose). If Kronwall lands this, there's a whistle. If he misses, the best case scenario is he's caught 50 feet from where he's supposed to be.

If you played the game you should already know all that.

And please don't compare Norris winners who were happy to answer the bell like Rob Blake or Scott Stevens to a gutless chicken and awful defensive player like Kronwall.
Man hockey fans get more pathetic all the time. Players should just get thrown of the game if any physical contact is made. Is that what you want? Also, how many times has Kronwall been suspended in the NHL?

I'm assuming you're a fan of one of the teams/players in which Kronwall has destroyed. The amount of ******** is hilarious.

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05-16-2012, 04:58 PM
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Watched it again and imo its not, because he is in the controll of the puck even thought havent touched it. And kronwall is trying to hit him so it would be illegal by him too then, Koivu is counter-hitting.


Just like in dump an chase you dump the puck and then hit the defender to the boards even before he actually touches the puck, because hes just getting it, allready playing the puck with positioning ect.. same kind of situation, and based on that I think it shouldn't be a penalty. A bit of borderline thought, he should have touched the puck with 1 hand or something first so it wouldn't even be in conversation.
Yes, players are allowed to fight for possesion without touching the puck. But I don't think it's legal to take a player out like that when the hitee is not even close to be in the possesion of the puck.

Kronwall was clearly surprised by that hit.

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05-16-2012, 05:18 PM
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Yes, players are allowed to fight for possesion without touching the puck. But I don't think it's legal to take a player out like that when the hitee is not even close to be in the possesion of the puck.

Kronwall was clearly surprised by that hit.
I agree. That was interference...well beyond fighting for space.

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05-16-2012, 05:21 PM
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ouchhh i felt that one

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05-16-2012, 05:35 PM
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Too bad the Koivu hit is illegal though (interference)
Kronwall didn't think so

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“No. I didn’t think so (should have been a penalty). It was a good play on his part,'' Kronwall said. "He caught me off-guard. It ended up costing us the game, so obviously I have to be a little bit more aware out there.”

“I think it was a square shoulder,'' Kronwall said. "I kind of leaned forward to go in and fight for the puck, and he just took a step backwards. I just know that I got a little ding.”

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05-16-2012, 05:45 PM
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The Koivu hit on Kronwall was clean. Nothing to ***** about.

Peter forsberg did that A LOT. He didn't invent it, but it was pretty much him that made it more used and famous.

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05-16-2012, 07:16 PM
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So Kronwalls hits shouldn't be part of the game because he won't fight after crushing someone?

Its not like he anyone comparing Kronwall's career or defensive play to Blake or Stevens, just his hits.

I love that Kronwall doesn't fight after steamrolling players, it often leads to Wings powerplays, thanks to opposing players losing their cool. My favorite part about it though is the reaction it gets from fight fans who feel he HAS to fight after he does it.

I hope he finishes his career with no fights and hundreds of hits just like this one.
Well said, +1 and all that.
I'm not a Red Wings fan, I'm not a Swede, and...
I just loved the hit.

Meaningless game? Latvian?
SO effin WHAT!
And the "Kronwall lands these hits because
players do not expect to be hit in this situation
"-argument is... purely amazing.
No ****, Sherlock?!

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05-16-2012, 07:37 PM
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Great hit, clean as well. He didn't jump BEFORE the hit. The Latvian should have been looking. Like Jagr said in one of the links posted ITT, "It's hockey. Take hits like this away and it's basketball."

For those saying it was inappropriate in such a game: It's the World Championship. Outside of USA and Canada it is considered the most important hockey event right after the Olympic Games. And you expect anyone to give you a break in such a tournament? In fact, a player that would give any opponent a break in any situation has no place in the national team.

And Latvia is no "hockey dwarf" to be treated like women, it's not so long ago that they defeated USA and sent them to the relegation group.

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05-17-2012, 02:55 AM
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WOW...it's almost unsafe having some of these no-name guys from Latvia or whatever playing against guys like Kronwall, it's like that South Park episode.

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05-17-2012, 03:19 AM
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these no-name guys from Latvia or whatever
You do realize how arrogant this sounds, right?

Basically their whole team plays in KHL, the second best league in the world.

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05-17-2012, 05:56 AM
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Great hit, clean as well. He didn't jump BEFORE the hit. The Latvian should have been looking. Like Jagr said in one of the links posted ITT, "It's hockey. Take hits like this away and it's basketball."

For those saying it was inappropriate in such a game: It's the World Championship. Outside of USA and Canada it is considered the most important hockey event right after the Olympic Games. And you expect anyone to give you a break in such a tournament? In fact, a player that would give any opponent a break in any situation has no place in the national team.

And Latvia is no "hockey dwarf" to be treated like women, it's not so long ago that they defeated USA and sent them to the relegation group.
Agree full hearted with this post.

Also: It serves as an reminder. The czechs coming up that wing today sure as hell gonna have Kronwall in the back of their mind.

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05-17-2012, 07:17 AM
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Great hit, clean as well. He didn't jump BEFORE the hit. The Latvian should have been looking. Like Jagr said in one of the links posted ITT, "It's hockey. Take hits like this away and it's basketball."

For those saying it was inappropriate in such a game: It's the World Championship. Outside of USA and Canada it is considered the most important hockey event right after the Olympic Games. And you expect anyone to give you a break in such a tournament? In fact, a player that would give any opponent a break in any situation has no place in the national team.

And Latvia is no "hockey dwarf" to be treated like women, it's not so long ago that they defeated USA and sent them to the relegation group.
Great post, and I agree with everything you said.

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05-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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For those who say's it was a meaningless game.
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Also: It serves as an reminder. The czechs coming up that wing today sure as hell gonna have Kronwall in the back of their mind.

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05-17-2012, 07:46 AM
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Wow what a beautiful clean hit. Kronwall is a monster

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05-17-2012, 07:48 AM
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Yep, Hemsky probably warned this Czech team 200 times

We won't see a KronwallD against the Czechs ;P

BTW, saw some videos from this guy Kronwall KronwallD, the guy seems to be a though little guy, he's hitting and fighting himself (In KHL) So don't think he's that innocent little boy ;P

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