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12-16-2004, 09:41 PM
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From best to worst of the 3: Roy-Broduer-Hasek!

I say Roy, Broduer, Hasek. Though I love Roy and Brodeur equally. Do you think Brodeur will surpass Roys records?

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12-16-2004, 09:45 PM
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At this point I would say its fairly easy. Roy, Broduer and Hasek. I do think Broduer will pass alot of Roy's records.

IF hockey ever starts up again. He is missing out on some valuable time here.

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He may break some of Roy's records but breaking records doesnt necessarly make you the greatest you know. Brodeur isnt even top 5 in the best goalie's list IMO.

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Roy was the master of "butterfly" goaltending!

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He may break some of Roy's records but breaking records doesnt necessarly make you the greatest you know. Brodeur isnt even top 5 in the best goalie's list IMO.
I would say he is pretty damn close. There arent many goalies in the history of the NHL that I would take over Broduer. Roy and Sawchuk are 2 off the top of my head. But then it gets tough to make that choice.

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I would say he is pretty damn close. There arent many goalies in the history of the NHL that I would take over Broduer. Roy and Sawchuk are 2 off the top of my head. But then it gets tough to make that choice.
IMO here are the top 5 best goalies ever in their time. (Dont care what era they played in and if they would be good today because who's to say todays goalies would be good with the old equipment that goalies had years ago, whereas now goalie's wear pads two times wider and half a heavy.)

1- Roy

2- Hasek

3- Sawchuk

4- Plante

5- Tretiak

Other great goalies have come and gone like Grant Fuhr, Billy Smith, Ken Dryden and Mike Richter.

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You guys are wrong. Hasek has how many vezinas? 6? He entered the league at age 27! If he had joined at 20 when Roy did, would there be any question? Nope. Hasek was better then both at his prime, in 2005 I'd take Brodeaur over Hasek in a second though.

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If Hasek was north american, he'd get a lot more respect.

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Domink Orr

i've been watching goalies since the league had 12 teams and clearly remember showdowns btwn Dryden and Tony Esposito (and grey-haired Plante and Glenn Hall, and maskless Gumper and Eddy, but that's another post).

i've noticed that Saint Patrick has some sort of elevated super-human popularity and status among fans nowadays. i've never shared that faith. i think he and Marty are good to maybe great goalies who did play for great teams. I never saw either of them do what I saw Hasek do in terms of being a quarterback or a team captain from the goalie crease. in my opinion, he sort of did for goaltending what bobby orr did for defensemen.

and i'd love to throw out an honorable mention to the one-game-short efforts by JS Guegere a couple years ago, and Mika Kiprusoff last year -- those were two of the most amazing goaltending performances i've ever seen -- like i'd site either of them before any season by brodeur, or any by saint patrick except that first cup.

and a p. freakin s., that i just found these boards and am Blown Away by the brains-on-ice here. that one thread where the winner asks the next question!! sickly funny.

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Patrick Roy is the greatest goaltender of all time, bar none.

The only player in NHL history to win 3 Conn Smythes, yes, even including Wayne Gretzky. 4 Stanley Cups also do not hurt his resume. This proves how he is the best money goaltender of all time, he plays big when you need him to.

Without Patrick Roy, I can almost guarentee you that half of the french-born goaltenders in the NHL right now wouldn't be.

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I think Hasek's credentials outweigh Roy's accomplishments. So Hasek is my #1 pick followed up by a #2 Roy. I would Pick Brodeur to be on my team in a second but to be fair in ranking goal-keepers, he has always had a spectacular defense in helping him. One word...Scott Stevens, actually that's two words and "Scott Stevens" is rather a name. huh oh well

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As much as it pains me to say it, Hasek was the better of the three goalies IMO.

I hate the guy with a passion, but he would be #1 on that list, followed by Roy and Brodaur.

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1) Sawchuk



2) Hasek
3) Brodeur
4) Roy

I shudder to think what Sawchuk could have done with today's Michelin Man equipment.

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Brodeur can beat all of Roys records for all I care. Roy will still be the better goaltender in history. He outplayed Brodeur near the end of his career when Brodeur was in his prime. Roy was amazing.

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I would Pick Brodeur to be on my team in a second but to be fair in ranking goal-keepers, he has always had a spectacular defense in helping him. One word...Scott Stevens, actually that's two words and "Scott Stevens" is rather a name. huh oh well
Oh so I guess Roy never had Larry Robinson or Chris Chelios or Ray Bourque or Rob Blake or Adam Foote in front of him eh?

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Brodeur can beat all of Roys records for all I care. Roy will still be the better goaltender in history. He outplayed Brodeur near the end of his career when Brodeur was in his prime. Roy was amazing.
What about when Belfour outplayed Roy (two postseasons in a row)? Does that not count? Don't forget Hasek against Roy in 2002, either. The ironic thing about the 2001 Finals was how it was billed as a battle of the goaltenders, yet both pretty much sucked throughout the entire series (until Roy picked up the slack in Game 6 after Bourque made a speech to Colorado). Something tells me it was Bourque who pulled them through that entire year.

EDIT: Of course, Roy was more rested than Brodeur in 2001 and the same could be said about Hasek in 2002, which further proves how you cannot JUST use one series to support your comparison.


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I think Hasek's credentials outweigh Roy's accomplishments. So Hasek is my #1 pick followed up by a #2 Roy. I would Pick Brodeur to be on my team in a second but to be fair in ranking goal-keepers, he has always had a spectacular defense in helping him. One word...Scott Stevens, actually that's two words and "Scott Stevens" is rather a name. huh oh well
One word: team.

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If Hasek was north american, he'd get a lot more respect.
Agreed

1. Roy
2. Hasek
3. Brodeur

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This thread will not provide a concensus answer, that much I knew before even opening it

For me:

1-Hasek
2-Roy
3-Brodeur

But they're all great.

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I reserve judgment until Brodeur's career is over.

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Hasek, Brodeur, Roy

Roy didn't prove anything on the international level so that's why I put him on the third place. Goalie has to prove himself internationaly, not only in the NHL.

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Roy holds some big records, Hasek was the better of the 3, and Brodeur has the potential to break some records, I think they're all great, but Hasek was the most dominating out of them.

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As good as Brodeur is, and has been at this point he's still 3rd IMO.

As for Roy vs. Hasek, Roy had the better career, but that IMO comes down to entering the league at an earlier age and playing on better teams for the most part. Hasek came later, but at his best he's the clear cut #1 IMO.

No goalie has ever played at a level that Hasek did from 1994-99.

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Hasek- Roy -Brodeur

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Oh so I guess Roy never had Larry Robinson or Chris Chelios or Ray Bourque or Rob Blake or Adam Foote in front of him eh?
Roy's two best statistical post-seasons (B-Y F-A-R) were the two years that Bourque played for the Av's in the playoffs.

But that's nothing compared to what Doug Bodger did for Hasek... :lol

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