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08-09-2012, 03:10 PM
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https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/...23064791891969
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#CBA NHL commissioner Gary Bettman just spoke. Made it very clear the league intends to lock out if no deal is reached by Sept 15
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#CBA Bettman also confirmed there is a sizeable gap between the two sides on revenue-sharing. Presumably all other econ issues as well
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#CBA Bettman:"Time is getting short and the owners are not prepared to operate under this collective bargaining agreement for another ssn"
If there's another full season lockout...I just might hurt someone...

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08-09-2012, 03:15 PM
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If there's a full lockout I'll stop following the NHL... forever

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Doesn't look good at all.

September 15th is like a month from now.

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08-09-2012, 03:23 PM
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Glass half full approach:

Boy will the World Juniors be a helluva tournament this year!

Add Nugent-Hopkins and Couturier to Huberdeau, Scheifele, Strome...

Glass Half Empty: **** you bettman, you weasily little ****, you better not collect your $7.2 million dollar salary during this lockout you pompous ****.

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08-09-2012, 03:26 PM
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Great...another ****ing lockout

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Infuriating. The owners came up with the current CBA and forced it down the players' collective throats. And now they refuse to operate under it, as if they were the ones making all the concessions the last time. They got absolutely everything they wanted, and continued to screw things up. What guarantee is there that if they get an even better deal they won't continue to screw it up all the more? I despise how the NHL conducts its business.

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08-09-2012, 03:39 PM
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Infuriating. The owners came up with the current CBA and forced it down the players' collective throats. And now they refuse to operate under it, as if they were the ones making all the concessions the last time. They got absolutely everything they wanted, and continued to screw things up. What guarantee is there that if they get an even better deal they won't continue to screw it up all the more? I despise how the NHL conducts its business.
Owners are their own worst enemy and expect the NHLPA to bail them out with concessions every negotiating period. Pretty sad.

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08-09-2012, 03:42 PM
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At this point the NHLPA should flip Bettman the bird and disband the union.

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#LockoutArticles is trending in Canada.

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Haven't been following at all, so it looks like a full lockout might happening?

Man, that would **** the Canucks over.

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Haven't been following at all, so it looks like a full lockout might happening?

Man, that would **** the Canucks over.
Hopefully if there is a lockout, it'll only be for part of the season. If the lockout ends in December, we won't even need to worry about Kesler properly recoving!

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08-09-2012, 04:10 PM
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players are getting too greedy again, spending is out of control just like it was before the last lockout. bettman has done a pretty damn good job as commissioner

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Man a lockout would suck.

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players are getting too greedy again, spending is out of control just like it was before the last lockout. bettman has done a pretty damn good job as commissioner
You forgot the . Otherwise you don't have a very good grasp of the situation.

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You forgot the . Otherwise you don't have a very good grasp of the situation.
but i'm not sarcastic. i'm sorry the canadian media is controlling so many sheeple though

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but i'm not sarcastic. i'm sorry the canadian media is controlling so many sheeple though


The Canadian media is controlling people? How so?

You said that spending is out of control, who spends the money on these contracts?

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Nevermind.

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The Canadian media is controlling people? How so?

You said that spending is out of control, who spends the money on these contracts?
do you ever hear a positive article about bettman in the canadian media?
answer this question: is spending as bad as it was just before the 2004 lockout?

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With the momentum the NHL has gained from the NBA lockout, if there's a labour stoppage this year, the players and the league might be the dumbest people ever.

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do you ever hear a positive article about bettman in the canadian media?
answer this question: is spending as bad as it was just before the 2004 lockout?
I don't read every (or virtually any) article pertaining to Bettman so I wouldn't know if there are any or not. Besides, it has nothing to do with Bettman...he's the voice for the owners, the BOG gives Bettman his marching orders.

Spending has been bad for ages now, and its the fault of owners who can't spend within their means. They try to slow spending but they keep circumventing the tools they implement in the first place.

How in your mind is this the fault of players? Are you some anti-unionist or something?

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08-09-2012, 04:55 PM
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players are getting too greedy again, spending is out of control just like it was before the last lockout. bettman has done a pretty damn good job as commissioner
How is spending "out of control" when the amount that goes to player salaries has been the same fixed percentage of revenues every year the 2005 CBA has operated? Weaker markets struggling with a rising cap because their revenue growth hasn't matched the league average is a problem, but that has absolutely nothing to do with players being "greedy;" it's a structural issue with the way the cap is implemented.

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do you ever hear a positive article about bettman in the canadian media?
answer this question: is spending as bad as it was just before the 2004 lockout?
You are uninformed my friend.

Spending ie. the cap is tied to revenues....League revenues have never been higher.

WHy would you hear positive Bettman articles in Canada, this is 'our game' and he is leading it into his 3rd lockout since he's been in charge.

The guy makes $7.2 million/yr to take care of "the game", not the owners....If hockey mattered in the States we'd the league would be a laughing stock, but it isn't because in Florida, Phoenix, Nashville, Long Island, Tampa Bay, even Dallas the people DONT CARE.

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08-09-2012, 05:01 PM
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I don't read every (or virtually any) article pertaining to Bettman so I wouldn't know if there are any or not. Besides, it has nothing to do with Bettman...he's the voice for the owners, the BOG gives Bettman his marching orders.

Spending has been bad for ages now, and its the fault of owners who can't spend within their means. They try to slow spending but they keep circumventing the tools they implement in the first place.

How in your mind is this the fault of players? Are you some anti-unionist or something?
The NHL saw way higher revenues than expected (thanks to bettman) after the lockout. The CBA was flawed in the fact that you could have an artificially low cap hit for player demanding way too much so obviously the owners are going to spend more with the higher revenues generated to give their team an advantage on the books. The greedy players and flawed CBA are the reason owners are spending too much and this is precisely why it needs to be changed this upcoming lockout.

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08-09-2012, 05:04 PM
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The NHL saw way higher revenues than expected (thanks to bettman) after the lockout. The CBA was flawed in the fact that you could have an artificially low cap hit for player demanding way too much so obviously the owners are going to spend more with the higher revenues generated to give their team an advantage on the books. The greedy players and flawed CBA are the reason owners are spending too much and this is precisely why it needs to be changed this upcoming lockout.
I'll agree that the CBA is flawed, but it is flawed in a way that helps larger markets. It has nothing to do with "greedy players", this just tells me that you have an axe to grind against unions...which is a fairly typical US mentality.

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You are uninformed my friend.

Spending ie. the cap is tied to revenues....League revenues have never been higher.

WHy would you hear positive Bettman articles in Canada, this is 'our game' and he is leading it into his 3rd lockout since he's been in charge.

The guy makes $7.2 million/yr to take care of "the game", not the owners....If hockey mattered in the States we'd the league would be a laughing stock, but it isn't because in Florida, Phoenix, Nashville, Long Island, Tampa Bay, even Dallas the people DONT CARE.
wrong, the owners are his boss. he obviously has to look out for them

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