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05-16-2012, 07:05 PM
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Skinner and Eberle to Isles

I know there is about a zero % chance that these 2 get traded but I would love them here to play with Tavares and continue thier amazing WC play together.


Any players except Hamonic and Tavares are Available.

Draft picks too..

What would the deals look like?


To Isles: Skinner + McBaine or Faulk

vs

To Canes: Okposo + Grabner + Ness + 1st rd




To Isles: Eberle (mayby add Horcoff for salary dump)
vs

To EDM: Frans Neilsen + de Hann + Nilsson



Thoughts? Changes and other proposals welcomed.


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I'm sorry but this is terrible.

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Dude you won't get any of these guys without throwing your 4th overall

For the first one a huge no from Canes POV, you can't put Skinner and Faulk in a deal like this....

Second is just NO.

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I'm sorry but this is terrible.
Thank you. Explain, mayby you could come up with a better deal?

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I took one look at the names and thought "Tavares will still be on the Isles in this proposal series, and therefore this is going to be g-dawful."

I have not been disappointed.

Both of those guys are primary core players for their teams. There's nothing else anyone has to motivate such a trade.

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Dude you won't get any of these guys without throwing your 4th overall

For the first one a huge no from Canes POV, you can't put Skinner and Faulk in a deal like this....

Second is just NO.
4th is available as is other picks..

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I know there is about a zero % chance that these 2 get traded but I would love them here to play with Tavares and continue thier amazing WC play together.


Any players except Hamonic and Tavares are Available.

Draft picks too..

What would the deals look like?


To Isles: Skinner + McBaine or Faulk

vs

To Canes: Okposo + Grabner + Ness




To Isles: Eberle (mayby add Horcoff for salary dump)
vs

To EDM: Frans Neilsen + de Hann + Nilsson



Thoughts? Changes and other proposals welcomed.
Sorry - Edmonton's not going to move Eberle. If they did, it would have to be an overpay, and would likely start with Hamonic. Not going to happen.

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Value is really off in the first deal. Skinner and Faulk should only be moved together if they're going to land a star. Second one isn't much better.

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Neither are even close, Islanders do not have the assets to acquire both, even to get one would be very costly.

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From the thought so far im pretty off on this one. any ideas on what it would take not named Tavares or Hamonic.


Strome ?
Striet?
1st round picks?

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Wow, that Carolina one is awful. To put it in perspective, it'd be like Carolina proposing this to the Islanders:

To Carolina - 4th overall + Tavares
To Isles - Ruutu + Jokinen + Sangunetti

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Thank you. Explain, mayby you could come up with a better deal?
There is no way Carolina trades their most proven D prospect and their 1st line winger unless the 4th and Hamonic is involved

Edmonton doesn't trade Eberle unless Tavares is involved

So there is really no way these happen unless the players your not willing to give uo are in play.

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Wow, that Carolina one is awful. To put it in perspective, it'd be like Carolina proposing this to the Islanders:

To Carolina - 4th overall + Tavares
To Isles - Ruutu + Jokinen + Sangunetti
Grabner signed long Term to a good cap hit and is a 30 goal scorer

Okposo same deal, recoverd late from his shoulder and did not get going until december and still pot 25 goals.

Both Young...

Mayby the value is off but no need to be that crazy...

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Horrible for edmonton.

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I present to you... a lock.


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From the thought so far im pretty off on this one. any ideas on what it would take not named Tavares or Hamonic.


Strome ?
Striet?
1st round picks?
Would you do

Tavares

FOR

Bunz, Klefbom, and Gagner

No, of course not. But thats pretty much what your offering EDM

And before someone tries to correct me, I know

Nielson>>Gagner

but

Bunz>Nilsson

and

Klefbom>De Haan

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There is no way Carolina trades their most proven D prospect and their 1st line winger unless the 4th and Hamonic is involved

Edmonton doesn't trade Eberle unless Tavares is involved

So there is really no way these happen unless the players your not willing to give uo are in play.
Thank you, no need to get crazy everyone, none of us are really the GM's of these teams. I realize how good both Skinner and Eberle are, I even said that there is a zero % chance these guys are traded. I was just looking for values without giving up Tavares and Hamonic.

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Would you do

Tavares

FOR

Bunz, Klefbom, and Gagner

No, of course not. But thats pretty much what your offering EDM

And before someone tries to correct me, I know

Nielson>>Gagner

but

Bunz>Nilsson

and

Klefbom>De Haan
you forgot
Tavares> Eberle, but I get what your saying...
And its too soon for Klefbom to be better than de Hann and Bunz to be better than Nilsson.

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Thank you, no need to get crazy everyone, none of us are really the GM's of these teams. I realize how good both Skinner and Eberle are, I even said that there is a zero % chance these guys are traded. I was just looking for values without giving up Tavares and Hamonic.
I'm not going crazy I am just stating the fact that the two offers you proposed were terrible.

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you forgot
Tavares> Eberle, but I get what your saying...
Yes, but Best Player equals the value of another teams Best Player regardless of of who's better.

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Yes, but Best Player equals the value of another teams Best Player regardless of of who's better.
I figuerd Hall,RNH,and mayby YAK would make it easier to trade Eberle if they wanted defense or a package of players

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I know there is about a zero % chance that these 2 get traded but I would love them here to play with Tavares and continue thier amazing WC play together.
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You might be able to get one by packaging the 4th OA +, but you don't have the pieces to get both without giving up Hamonic and Strome.

For example, I think Edmonton would want Hamonic + 2012 1st... just for Eberle. I'm still not sure they would do it. (I think they would be insane not to, but, at minimum, some members of their fan base here would turn it down).

With those two off the table, I don't think you have the pieces to get Skinner, but, for sake of argument,

Strome + Grabner / Okposo (Carolina's choice). I'm not sure Carolina takes that deal, but it is a reasonable offer.

So the two deals together...

to

Hamonic
2012 1st

to

J. Eberle

to

Strome
Grabner / Okposo

to

J. Skinner

Again, I don't think any of the three teams do these, but you can't pretend to be serious with deals around Neilson, Ness, etc.

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You might be able to get one by packaging the 4th OA +, but you don't have the pieces to get both without giving up Hamonic and Strome.

For example, I think Edmonton would want Hamonic + 2012 1st... just for Eberle. I'm still not sure they would do it. (I think they would be insane not to, but, at minimum, some members of their fan base here would turn it down).

With those two off the table, I don't think you have the pieces to get Skinner, but, for sake of argument,

Strome + Grabner / Okposo (Carolina's choice). I'm not sure Carolina takes that deal, but it is a reasonable offer.

So the two deals together...

to

Hamonic
2012 1st

to

J. Eberle

to

Strome
Grabner / Okposo

to

J. Skinner

Again, I don't think any of the three teams do these, but you can't pretend to be serious with deals around Neilson, Ness, etc.
Thank you, you get idea....I would do the Canes deal but it would be hard to give up Hammer...

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Isles don't have the assets to trade for both of these guys.

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Value is really off in the first deal. Skinner and Faulk should only be moved together if they're going to land a star. Second one isn't much better.
I think the Eberle one is worse.

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to

Hamonic
2012 1st

to

J. Eberle
We aren't going to trade our 22 year old, 76 point player who hasn't even reached his full potential and also grew up as an Oilers fan for two big question marks. It would set back our rebuild and hurt team chemistry.

The only player that the Oilers would even consider taking back for Eberle is Tavares.

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