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09-01-2012, 10:17 PM
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Lol he wasn't the problem.
Dude couldn't hit anyone (not that our wideouts were any good). This isn't Embree's fault either. His recruiting has been good, but there not ready.

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He played fine before he started getting hit every single down.

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Dude couldn't hit anyone (not that our wideouts were any good). This isn't Embree's fault either. His recruiting has been good, but there not ready.
He wasn't the problem, when the OL can't pass nor run block, you have to look at them. His WRs didn't help him at all either with dropped passes.

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I'm beefing up to 200 and walking on next year. I feel like the players we have starting are brain dead

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He wasn't the problem, when the OL can't pass nor run block, you have to look at them. His WRs didn't help him at all either with dropped passes.
No doubt buy he's not a good quarterback. He tried to hit 87 on a streak like 3 times at the end of the game and was bad each time

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No doubt buy he's not a good quarterback. He tried to hit 87 on a streak like 3 times at the end of the game and was bad each time
Seems like it was a miscommunication with he and McCulloch, something that needs to be fixed. Hard to say he's not a good QB with the "help" he got though. Not trying to make excuses for him, but it's hard to do anything positive when the defense knows you're not running the ball and OL getting pushed back every snap.

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09-02-2012, 11:51 PM
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CU needs at least 3-4 years before you can judge Embree and these players.

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CU needs at least 3-4 years before you can judge Embree and these players.
For me personally I wasn't going to judge the success of turning the program around until year three. I stick by that. However, if CU continues to lose to programs like CSU next season then I will start to wonder if another coaching search should begin.

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CU is freaking awful and has been for years. No offense to CSU supporters but CU/Pac-12 teams should maybe lose only 1 out of 20 games to Mountain West teams not named Boise State (who really shouldn't be in that conference). And the games shouldn't be that close either. I'm talking like multiple touchdown wins, not little fingernail squeakers.

With this loss I'll be shocked if CU wins 2 games. There best chances are against Sac State. and Fresno. After that the actual Pac-12 games are going to be tough. If CU can't establish the run against CSU how do you think they will do it against a real team like USC or even a middle of the road team like ASU? They won't and they will get killed, because only CU would think it was a good idea to rely on a QB who had started 19 games and had a career record of 5-14.

CU is a joke. They have not made any improvements, and its going to be another long year. Followed by another long year. Then Embree will probably be fired and they'll bring in another coach that supposed to bring CU back to glory but it won't happen. Its really disappointing to see the program McCartney built crumble to pieces with no end in sight. The biggest disappointment for me is overall lack of effort. I can tolerate a loss if the team goes out and gives 110%, and the other team was just better. What can't deal was what the Buffs put forth against CSU. I'd give them maybe 70% effort, which is real sad considering its a rival game. It like they didn't think they had to put effort in to win, and they could just coast and CSU would give it to them. And honestly this falls on the coaches.


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CU is freaking awful and has been for years. No offense to CSU supporters but CU/Pac-12 teams should maybe lose only 1 out of 20 games to Mountain West teams not named Boise State (who really shouldn't be in that conference). And the games shouldn't be that close either. I'm talking like multiple touchdown wins, not little fingernail squeakers.

With this loss I'll be shocked if CU wins 2 games. There best chances are against Sac State. and Fresno. After that the actual Pac-12 games are going to be tough. If CU can't establish the run against CSU how do you think they will do it against a real team like USC or even a middle of the road team like ASU? They won't and they will get killed, because only CU would think it was a good idea to rely on a QB who had started 19 games and had a career record of 5-14.

CU is a joke. They have not made any improvements, and its going to be another long year. Followed by another long year. Then Embree will probably be fired and they'll bring in another coach that supposed to bring CU back to glory but it won't happen. Its really disappointing to see the program McCartney built crumble to pieces with no end in sight. The biggest disappointment for me is overall lack of effort. I can tolerate a loss if the team goes out and gives 110%, and the other team was just better. What can't deal was what the Buffs put forth against CSU. I'd give them maybe 70% effort, which is real sad considering its a rival game. It like they didn't think they had to put effort in to win, and they could just coast and CSU would give it to them. And honestly this falls on the coaches.
Judging quarterbacks by their win-loss record is a terrible way to evaluate them. Just as it is with pitchers and goaltenders.

This isn't a rivalry game to CU, just CSU.

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09-03-2012, 03:15 PM
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McCartney's success had to do more with Gordon Gee than Bill McCartney.

A good college sports program is built from the top down, not the other way around. There's all kinds of programs out there that "bend the rules" a bit to allow for a sports program to be a priority at a university.

Simply put, I don't think the CU leadership really cares all that much about the football program, and after what happened with the whole scandal I think integrity is their priority over football. That puts them at a disadvantage to a lot of their competitors.

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Judging quarterbacks by their win-loss record is a terrible way to evaluate them. Just as it is with pitchers and goaltenders.

This isn't a rivalry game to CU, just CSU.
Unfortunately at the college level wins and losses is an alright way to judge a QB. You are either a winner who will take over when the team isn't playing well or a loser who ducks their tail and runs, and Webb is the later (or at least thats how he played Saturday). He played like a loser in the 2nd half yesterday, much like most of his teammates. The kids on the CU team are used to losing and they seem to be ok with it. In my opinion it seems CU has become ok with losing, and that is not a good thing.

I'm not going to claim to care much about CU or CSU or if it a rivalry or not, I'm not a big fan of either team. But in my opinion if CSU treats this game as a rivalry shouldn't CU treat it as such? Maybe thats why CU consistently has close games with an inferior team. You don't see teams like Alabama squeaking one out against Alabama St or like LSU scraping by Louisiana Lafayette. Those teams beat down there in-state competition and don't give them hope that they can win next year. That's what CU should do to CSU every year. Maybe if CU isn't going to treat this like a big game, they shouldn't schedule the game any more and just play someone else.

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Anyone that watched the entertaining final round with McIlroy, Oosthuizen (and Woods) battling out at the Deutsche Bank Championship?

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Epic. The guy has to use a stick to balance then pulls that shot off.

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Unfortunately at the college level wins and losses is an alright way to judge a QB. You are either a winner who will take over when the team isn't playing well or a loser who ducks their tail and runs, and Webb is the later (or at least thats how he played Saturday). He played like a loser in the 2nd half yesterday, much like most of his teammates. The kids on the CU team are used to losing and they seem to be ok with it. In my opinion it seems CU has become ok with losing, and that is not a good thing.

I'm not going to claim to care much about CU or CSU or if it a rivalry or not, I'm not a big fan of either team. But in my opinion if CSU treats this game as a rivalry shouldn't CU treat it as such? Maybe thats why CU consistently has close games with an inferior team. You don't see teams like Alabama squeaking one out against Alabama St or like LSU scraping by Louisiana Lafayette. Those teams beat down there in-state competition and don't give them hope that they can win next year. That's what CU should do to CSU every year. Maybe if CU isn't going to treat this like a big game, they shouldn't schedule the game any more and just play someone else.
Watched the game again. I hate to call out players individually, but I will be disappointed if I ever see Nick Kasa on game day again. I think I counted three times that he let a guy simply walk to the qb.

It was honestly one of the worst jobs I've ever seen at the d-1 level.

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Also, not to start it up already, but Derrick Webb will play and probably start on Sundays. I've stated this before and I will keep saying it, he is a player.

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Well, there's basketball season to look forward to. With Josh Scott, Xavier Johnson, and Wesley Gordon on campus, Tad Boyle gets another quality player in Jaron Hopkins. #1 player out of Arizona.

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Tad is a God. My fear its that he will leave for a top program.

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Tad is a God. My fear its that he will leave for a top program.
I'm not worried, Kansas is the only team I think he'll go if the job opens in the next 3 years or so. He said no to A&M, Kansas State, Nebraska, etc. He knows CU doesn't have the money yet, it'll be there once the Pac12 money keeps on coming in.

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Watched the game again. I hate to call out players individually, but I will be disappointed if I ever see Nick Kasa on game day again. I think I counted three times that he let a guy simply walk to the qb.

It was honestly one of the worst jobs I've ever seen at the d-1 level.
Four star Hawkins recruit...at defensive end. CU needs to recruit some tight ends. Maybe one of the freshmen will step up.

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Four star Hawkins recruit...at defensive end. CU needs to recruit some tight ends. Maybe one of the freshmen will step up.
Kasa played for my HS's rival and everyone raved about how great he was. I believe Scout had him as a 5* player, too bad it never worked out here. He decommitted from Florida because he wanted to play DE (Meyer wanted him as a TE).

I think Austin Ray can be good at TE. We also got Mitchell Parsons, a 4* TE from Chapparal HS.

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Did the NBA have any form of training camp or preseason after the lockout?

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Thank god I over slept for this game

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Thank god I over slept for this game
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