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What happens if/when the season is cancelled?

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12-17-2004, 08:32 PM
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What happens if/when the season is cancelled?

A couple of days ago I still had some hope. Both sides, in my opinion, are being a--holes. They have enough money to continue being a--holes for, well, a pretty long time. And it's probably more for the sake of pride than money at this point.

If/when the season is called off, do you think the league loses a substantial portion of its fanbase?

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**** them... no one should go to a game..... for atleast the next year

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The owners have a lot of money. The players have a lot less. Considering a bunch of guys probably have expensive houses, nice cars, and everything else, they will have to cave in. I can't remember what station I heard this but there was a report(Only a report) that half of these NHL'ers almost live paycheque to paycheque because of the way they spend their money.

 
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**** them... no one should go to a game..... for atleast the next year
This worries me a bit. I did this after the baseball strike in '94, and I never went back to the game.

Of course, a large part of the reason was that I became hooked on hockey while boycotting baseball.

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The owners have a lot of money. The players have a lot less. Considering a bunch of guys probably have expensive houses, nice cars, and everything else, they will have to cave in. I can't remember what station I heard this but there was a report(Only a report) that half of these NHL'ers almost live paycheque to paycheque because of the way they spend their money.
Kinda like that guy in the 70s who got millions in damages from the supreme court then wasted it all in private airplane tours...

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A couple of days ago I still had some hope. Both sides, in my opinion, are being a--holes. They have enough money to continue being a--holes for, well, a pretty long time. And it's probably more for the sake of pride than money at this point.

If/when the season is called off, do you think the league loses a substantial portion of its fanbase?




Bye bye NHL...hello CHL .

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If/when the season is called off, do you think the league loses a substantial portion of its fanbase?
Well, if you listen to some of the more absurd arguments here (thunderstruck comes to mind) the NHL will increase its fanbase becuase the vast majority of hockey fans(and people in general) hate the players for being greedy and can't wait to stick it to them by watching replacement players. Remember too thar Bettman has intentionally made the game crap over the last 10 years so that when the replacement players come in, they can improve the game

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Well, if you listen to some of the more absurd arguments here (thunderstruck comes to mind) the NHL will increase its fanbase becuase the vast majority of hockey fans(and people in general) hate the players for being greedy and can't wait to stick it to them by watching replacement players. Remember too thar Bettman has intentionally made the game crap over the last 10 years so that when the replacement players come in, they can improve the game

Now, now, Hockeytown9321, I don't think you really believe Bettman has INTENTIONALLY made the game worse. You may not like his moves, but I don't think he's on a secret evil agenda to make replacement players look better. I will, however agree with you wholeheartedly that his whacky expansion plan has made the game much worse than it started. Of course many owners weren't complaining when they divvied up the expansion fees. But let's face it, 21 teams to 30 in ten years is nuts, no real growth takes place that fast.

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Well, if you listen to some of the more absurd arguments here (thunderstruck comes to mind) the NHL will increase its fanbase becuase the vast majority of hockey fans(and people in general) hate the players for being greedy and can't wait to stick it to them by watching replacement players. Remember too thar Bettman has intentionally made the game crap over the last 10 years so that when the replacement players come in, they can improve the game

At least have the decency to present an accurate representation of my postition.

It reflects poorly on you.

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Now, now, Hockeytown9321, I don't think you really believe Bettman has INTENTIONALLY made the game worse. You may not like his moves, but I don't think he's on a secret evil agenda to make replacement players look better. I will, however agree with you wholeheartedly that his whacky expansion plan has made the game much worse than it started. Of course many owners weren't complaining when they divvied up the expansion fees. But let's face it, 21 teams to 30 in ten years is nuts, no real growth takes place that fast.
That wasn't my argument. I just repeat what I hear. If I have time, I'll find the thread.

edit: Here ya go. courtesy of the great thunderstruck:

"Let's just say that I believe the incentive to speed the game up would be far greater for the NHL in the replacement scenario than it has been for the past 5 years."

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.p...cement+players


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At least have the decency to present an accurate representation of my postition.

It reflects poorly on you.

"Most can't tell the difference and a large number would pay even NHL level prices just to make a point to the NHLPA. Of course, they won't be forced to as ticket prices will be significantly lower."

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.p...cement+players

let me know who said that.

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That wasn't my argument. I just repeat what I hear. If I have time, I'll find the thread.

edit: Here ya go. courtesy of the great thunderstruck:

"Let's just say that I believe the incentive to speed the game up would be far greater for the NHL in the replacement scenario than it has been for the past 5 years."

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.p...cement+players

Thanks for the clarification, I knew in my heart that you really are gary B's biggest fan. When I have spinach quiche with him for brunch tommorrow I will tell him to ignore what I said about taking you off his christmas card list.

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"Let's just say that I believe the incentive to speed the game up would be far greater for the NHL in the replacement scenario than it has been for the past 5 years."
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Remember too thar Bettman has intentionally made the game crap over the last 10 years so that when the replacement players come in, they can improve the game

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Originally Posted by my statement
"Most can't tell the difference and a large number would pay even NHL level prices just to make a point to the NHLPA. Of course, they won't be forced to as ticket prices will be significantly lower."
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Well, if you listen to some of the more absurd arguments here (thunderstruck comes to mind) the NHL will increase its fanbase becuase the vast majority of hockey fans(and people in general) hate the players for being greedy and can't wait to stick it to them by watching replacement players
Hopefully you are intelligent enought to discern the difference. If you are, then this clearly displays your intellectual dishonesty.

I'm sure this whole situtation is a little frustrating for you. Please attempt at least to maintain a bit of dignity.

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Hopefully you are intelligent enought to discern the difference. If you are, then this clearly displays your intellectual dishonesty.

I'm sure this whole situtation is a little frustrating for you. Please attempt at least to maintain a bit of dignity.
Whatever, cheif. Your statements speak for themselves.

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Whatever, cheif. Your statements speak for themselves.
Yes they do.

Your misrepresentation, intentional or not, is also clear.

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If the season gets cancelled and the local tv starts broadcasting AHL games, I'll be happy enough.

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If/when the season is called off, do you think the league loses a substantial portion of its fanbase?
Without a doubt.

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If/when the season is called off, do you think the league loses a substantial portion of its fanbase?
It will lose 100% of its fanbase in my household.

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If the league cancels an entire season, the NHLPA will crumble. I will go on record and out on a limb and predict that.

So many players will end up wondering why the PA didn't just give in to cost certainty, especially the 500 or so players making under $800,000 who weren't effected by the league's last proposal.

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