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05-19-2012, 05:09 PM
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I really wish this happened with a Kings or Coyotes player so I could have credibility on the subject.
The Senators did it with two players.

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05-19-2012, 05:10 PM
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Using this logic, there should be "credible" Kings and Coyotes fans coming in here agreeing with you, no? Why is that? Could it be that perhaps you are, in fact, just a bitter Devils fan?
No but my complaints wouldn't be labeled whining and dismissed if it was a non rival

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05-19-2012, 05:11 PM
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But in the MLB if you weren't apart of the roster af any point before September you aren't eligible for the playoff roster ( save for DL players)
The college baseball season ends in July. The MLB postseason starts in October. The NHL doesn't have the luxury of the NCAA season ending well before the NHL postseason. If Kreider had won the championship with BC in February then you'd have a point. Instead, you're comparing apples to oranges.

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The Senators did it with two players.
Well I didn't hear about it. Did they play any?

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No but my complaints wouldn't be labeled whining and dismissed if it was a non rival
Yes they would.

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But in the MLB if you weren't apart of the roster af any point before September you aren't eligible for the playoff roster ( save for DL players)
Is this the MLB?

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No but my complaints wouldn't be labeled whining and dismissed if it was a non rival
So instead it would be dismissed as pure stupidity. Would that make you happier? If the other 99% of the boards stopped insisted that you're looking through Devils' color glasses and instead attributed it to you being completely clueless?

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Well I didn't hear about it. Did they play any?
Yes they did. If you're going to come into an argument where you're clearly in the minority, you might want to have some semblance of knowledge about the topic...

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Well I didn't hear about it. Did they play any?


This just proves that you only care because the Rangers did it.

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05-19-2012, 05:14 PM
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I find it ridiculous as well.... why can you not do it for a free agent but you can do it for a NCAA player that has yet to play an NHL game?

IMO the reason there is no rule is because it more than likely wasn't though to be an issue. I don't think anyone expected someone to come out of college and play the way Kreider has.

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05-19-2012, 05:15 PM
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I think he might be a good one....

Huge size, elite speed, great shot, 8th in goals in the playoffs, goal in all 3 conference finals games...

And he has only played 14 career NHL games?

What the hell did the Rangers do to deserve someone like that?
They drafted him The Rangers wanted to sign him in the offseason, but Kreider wanted to play one more collegiate season. Then he couldn't play any regular season games because the Rangers had to wait until his season was over...and BC won it all.

BTW, Kreider has technically played NO NHL games at this time; his ELC is tolled, although these games do count towards waivers-exempt status.

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05-19-2012, 05:16 PM
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But in the MLB if you weren't apart of the roster af any point before September you aren't eligible for the playoff roster ( save for DL players)
Not true.

No rule against it. It's just rare for teams to do it since the expanded September roster gives them viable options.

Google "Mark Kiger"

Like i said, completely legitimate. You're arguing against a rule that has been around for decades.

It's ok for you to disagree with it, but it's kinda fruitless since the league will never change it.

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I guess this is the new excuse, first shot blocking and now this

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Well I didn't hear about it. Did they play any?
Silverberg signed out of the SEL and played 2 games in the series. Stone signed out of the WHL played one game in the series.

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05-19-2012, 05:18 PM
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Actually they can. The Senators did it with Silfverberg (SEL) and Stone (WHL). There is absolutely nothing preventing the Devils from signing Merrill or Wedgewood or Wohlberg and putting them in the lineup. Basically what you're whining boils down to is the fact that the Rangers had an NHL ready prospect to sign and the Devils do not.
In that case, their seasons had ended. Otherwise, it can only be under emergency conditions (as was the case with the Flames and Sven Bartschi this year)>

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05-19-2012, 05:19 PM
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Because the player was not with the franchise until after the playoffs. No other league allows players to up and join in the middle of the playoffs with out playing in the regular season. It's just mercenary like to get a fresh player who hasn't been through the AHL or NHL grind
No, the NHL franchise already owns his rights. No other major sport makes sense to compare this to because they don't have players playing in other leagues. You're drafted out of college in the NFL and in the NBA.

edit: people hit on a bunch of these already, but for the MLB stuff you don't have to play in a game to be eligible. You just need to be on the 25-man roster at the right time.

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I find it ridiculous as well.... why can you not do it for a free agent but you can do it for a NCAA player that has yet to play an NHL game?

IMO the reason there is no rule is because it more than likely wasn't though to be an issue. I don't think anyone expected someone to come out of college and play the way Kreider has.
That's because the vast majority of the time the time off is more of a negative than a positive. Usually players in Kreider's situation wouldn't contribute because the lack of playing in the regular season is more of a negative than the fresh legs are a positive. Is this so hard to understand?

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05-19-2012, 05:21 PM
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Silverberg signed out of the SEL and played 2 games in the series. Stone signed out of the WHL played one game in the series.
Then it was wrong. Apparently I'm the only one who finds this wholes system odd or some sort of news thing would have come across my eyes. I'm just going to shut up now since this is just me going in circles while everyone else feels differently

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In that case, their seasons had ended. Otherwise, it can only be under emergency conditions (as was the case with the Flames and Sven Bartschi this year)>
Kreider's season ended too..

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His MLB comparison isnt even accurate, just last year the Rays brought up Matt Moore in mid september and he then started their first playoff game. I dont recall anyone complaining about it either.

I have to ask, if Krieder was terrible would him being on the roster be a problem?

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05-19-2012, 05:24 PM
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I guess this is the new excuse, first shot blocking and now this
Wait you forgot the tin foil hat crowds bad ice conspiracy

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He's not apart of the franchise til he's signed a contract that allows him to play an NHL game. I don't get why it's fair to do that with an NCAA prospect but not any other free agents
Please. If the Devils got a guy of Kreider's ability straight from the NCAA for the playoffs you would not be saying it is unfair.

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But he didn't have a contract. An RFA is still a team's propert but a free agent and Krieder didn't have to sign thus free agent
Your going full retard right now

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Well I didn't hear about it. Did they play any?
Indeed they did.

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