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06-15-2012, 09:02 PM
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Bah! People were real sour on Dandenault by the time he left, and maybe rightly so, but the guy was a versatile contributor for us for a while.
I thought Dandenault was OK as a forward. When he went to D, not so much. Especially the year he was paired with Lidstrom. He was the only defenseman who ever looked terrible next to Lidstrom. Dumb as a rock.

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06-16-2012, 12:11 AM
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What do you guys think of Anton Slepyshev? Big kid who has good skills. Hes slotted to go around that time anyways. Maybe by the time he makes it Datsyuk might be playing still.


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06-16-2012, 12:53 AM
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If I was Holland and offered 19th overall for Quincey, Quincey would be on a plane before I hung up the phone.

Quincey can be replaced VIA UFA in a heartbeat at a price equal to or less than he will make as an RFA
Quincey will be better with a defined role and a full training camp. Still think we overpaid but losing Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart in 2 offseasons means Holland was justified and did a positive thing.

What happened to all the jerks who hated on Holland for letting Quincey go in the first place? Are these Holland haters completely different people?

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06-16-2012, 01:55 AM
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Quincey will be better with a defined role and a full training camp. Still think we overpaid but losing Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart in 2 offseasons means Holland was justified and did a positive thing.

What happened to all the jerks who hated on Holland for letting Quincey go in the first place? Are these Holland haters completely different people?
What does Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart have to do with justifying the Quincey trade.

Quincey is quantity-type player. Not a quality guy.
You can replace quincey easy in a UFA market.

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06-16-2012, 02:14 AM
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Quincey still not worth a first round pick, honestly one of the few times with Holland where it was wtf are you thinking? Especially since the Wings would've had a decent first round pick.

Just out of curiosity no chance you guys trade up into first round you think?

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06-16-2012, 05:24 AM
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If I was Holland and offered 19th overall for Quincey, Quincey would be on a plane before I hung up the phone.
At the time of the trade it was something like #29 overall. We were leading the league in points, but NY Rangers had the best pts percentage.

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06-16-2012, 05:49 AM
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What does Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart have to do with justifying the Quincey trade.
You mean other than the fact that there are huge holes on our blue line?

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06-16-2012, 07:02 AM
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If we could trade Franzen for a pick between 7-12 I'd be happy.

Holland please take Jake McCabe at 49th

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06-16-2012, 08:04 AM
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I just don't undrestand why people are crying after that 1st round pick lo loud? Of course it was a loss, but not the end of the world. This 2012 draft is not very deep at first round, there has speculation that maybe there's 15 quality 1st round talents.

And when they are ready, they are ready after five years.

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“We got some kids (in the organization),'' Holland said. “The time is now. It's (Quincey) not a rental. We think he makes us better and deeper on the back end. That first-round pick, if it's a good pick, he would have played in Detroit five years from now.''
Our draft at last year was IMO so successful, that we are in fine shape. And I mean at fine shape after those five years, when our current prospects start peaking (and what timely period that prime-hitting 1st for Quincey was lost).

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06-16-2012, 09:05 AM
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Would love for detroit to draft any of Lukas Sutter, Scott Kosmachuk, Coda Gordon or Hank Samuelsson

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06-16-2012, 03:40 PM
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Would love for detroit to draft any of Lukas Sutter, Scott Kosmachuk, Coda Gordon or Hank Samuelsson
I took Kosmachuk in the Mod Mock Draft. The other three you mentioned were gone. I also considered Schmaltz and Gemel Smith, as they were both gone by my pick (which was actually 48th).

From what I've read, Kosmachuk is the kind of player the Wings need. We need more honey badgers.

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06-16-2012, 04:24 PM
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What does Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart have to do with justifying the Quincey trade.

Quincey is quantity-type player. Not a quality guy.
You can replace quincey easy in a UFA market.
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Quincey still not worth a first round pick, honestly one of the few times with Holland where it was wtf are you thinking? Especially since the Wings would've had a decent first round pick.

Just out of curiosity no chance you guys trade up into first round you think?
Quincey is worth a first round pick. We should never have let him go. He makes some bonehead mistakes but this guy was playing Lidstrom minutes in colorado. He is a top 4 defensemen on just about any team in the league and those aren't replaced by free agency when every other team is willing to pay out stupid contracts during FA just to meet the floor.. After training camp and some games under his belt next season he will prove his worth.

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06-16-2012, 04:32 PM
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I look forward to maybe seeing the 49th pick play for the wings in 2020.
No kidding. Most of our prospects never see the light of day, it seems.

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06-16-2012, 04:34 PM
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As of now, Quincey sucks. Don't care what he did on other teams, he sucked for the Wings. Will he improve and make himself worth that 1st rounder next season? Don't know. Sure hope so. Won't be holding my breath though. The guy seemed to lack hockey sense a lot more than he lacked familiarity with the Wings system. Hope he proves me wrong, otherwise it was a bad trade.

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06-16-2012, 05:38 PM
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Quincey is worth a first round pick. We should never have let him go. He makes some bonehead mistakes but this guy was playing Lidstrom minutes in colorado. He is a top 4 defensemen on just about any team in the league and those aren't replaced by free agency when every other team is willing to pay out stupid contracts during FA just to meet the floor.. After training camp and some games under his belt next season he will prove his worth.
I agree we shouldn't have let him go. He was worth the draft pick. ONCE.
He's not worth a first on top of it.

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06-17-2012, 12:28 PM
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I hope that Quincey deal doesn't bite us in the butt. I don't think it will, but you never know. It'll be interesting to see who is picked 19th overall.
19th is a pretty good draft number, hell of a lot better than 49...

Maybe they will get Hampus Lindholm.

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06-18-2012, 07:25 PM
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I took Kosmachuk in the Mod Mock Draft. The other three you mentioned were gone. I also considered Schmaltz and Gemel Smith, as they were both gone by my pick (which was actually 48th).

From what I've read, Kosmachuk is the kind of player the Wings need. We need more honey badgers.
We just need some kids with a little size (not saying all the ones i listed do) and have a scoring prowless. I wouldn't mind us taking some very, very raw talents..

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19th is a pretty good draft number, hell of a lot better than 49...

Maybe they will get Hampus Lindholm.
If Hampus is around at 19, ill be god damn livid.

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06-18-2012, 07:48 PM
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Would love for detroit to draft any of Lukas Sutter, Scott Kosmachuk, Coda Gordon or Hank Samuelsson
Yes Sutter and Kosmachuk would be great. They need to take best player available but if one of these guys is there you take them. I think Sutter and Samuelsson will be gone in round 1 or early in round 2 though.

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06-18-2012, 11:02 PM
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We just need some kids with a little size (not saying all the ones i listed do) and have a scoring prowless. I wouldn't mind us taking some very, very raw talents..
Kosmachuk isn't really big, and he doesn't have a ton of scoring prowess.

From all reports, he'll skate through a wall to dig out a puck and he's got speed and enough size to be effective physically. Those are the kinds of guys that win playoff games in today's NHL. Speed, hustle, and enough size and skill to get the job done.

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06-18-2012, 11:24 PM
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^Agreed. Speed and effort and some skilled linemates who don't hang you out. The game is changing and most fans are always one step behind.

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Quincey will be better with a defined role and a full training camp. Still think we overpaid but losing Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart in 2 offseasons means Holland was justified and did a positive thing.

What happened to all the jerks who hated on Holland for letting Quincey go in the first place? Are these Holland haters completely different people?
Careful my friend, logic is frowned upon here. It gets in the way of irrational hatred. Quincey was no where near as bad as this board thinks he was.

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06-18-2012, 11:38 PM
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The top 10 of this year's draft is supposedly 15 players deep. If we had that #19 overall, we could've traded up a few spots, and landed what is thought to be a top 10 pick talent-wise. Of all the years to trade our first rounder.

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The top 10 of this year's draft is supposedly 15 players deep. If we had that #19 overall, we could've traded up a few spots, and landed what is thought to be a top 10 pick talent-wise. Of all the years to trade our first rounder.
We haven't have many first rounders during this millennium. But I kinda agree, anyway.

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06-19-2012, 10:07 AM
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If Hampus is around at 19, ill be god damn livid.
This is me if Matt Finn is available at 19 --->

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06-19-2012, 10:29 AM
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At this point, I would rather have a bona fide NHL defensemen (even with Q's warts) than our first-round pick. I don't mind over paying (from a cap perspective) for a quality UFA defensemen, but I sure as hell don't want to overpay for a third or fourth choice.

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