There's one other issue ... if they truly are done with Gaborik ... that probably means they'll go hard after Nash again. CLB can't just keep making crazy demands, and they eventually caved on Carter where they got a decent return. NY is probably a favorite to get that done, IMO.
Those players you're throwing around ... Dubinsky, Anisimov ... are likely to be key pieces of a trade for Nash ... maybe Dubinsky more than Anisimov. What was the rumored trade deadline offer? Dubinsky, Erixon, and a 1st? If CLB is smart, I think they take it and run.
Furthermore ... there's always Parise ... and NY has a knack for making the big splash in free agency. Their cap situation isn't bad, and they could probably afford to do it even with Gabby still on the roster. Heck ... since Dubinsky's cap hit would probably be going the other way for Nash ... they could probably afford Nash and Parise.
I agree you could see a shakeup in NY, but it's going to be for big pieces Dallas can't offer, IMO. If you're trading with NY, it's probably to help them dump salary ... like Gaborik if you want to pay him $7.5 million the next 2 years.
Gaborik could very well be traded. Torts mentioned in his post-game interview that he wasn't happy with how some of the players reacted to pressure and adversity during this series. He said he was very pleased and happy with some of his players, but others he was just as surprised with in a bad way.
I love Gabby, but he was a ghost these playoffs. Sure he drew top defenders and was constantly checked. Sure he put up assists. But he was playing weak and scared, and with NY looking to move to Cup contention mode, I'm not sure if an on-again off-again regular season performer will be enough.
I think Dubi, Anisimov, and Gaborik all could be on the block to be honest. Changes will come. I'm not sure if we have anything the Rangers would want though. Maybe Ryder for a Cup run at the deadline? I feel like the Rangers will make their moves in the offseason. Trade Anisimov or Dubi for a year of Ribeiro? I don't see it happening. Sather's not retarded, and has said he won't trade youth for mercenaries anymore.
But Torts isn't the GM.
Players have sucked in the playoffs before and not been traded. It happens all the time, Thornton being a prime example.
Oh yea, I could easily see him not getting traded as well. Teams lacking in offense don't trade the 3rd best scorer in the league. That being said, his performance in the playoffs was concerning. He also has a NTC though, so I doubt anything happens.
I also misunderstood Tort's quotes, he was referring to some of the younger guys who he's concerned about. I'd say that's most likely in reference to Anisimov, Hagelin, and maybe MDZ. Of that I'd only say Anisimov is likely to be moved.
Proposal - Dallas trades Brenden Morrow to the NY Rangers for J.T. Miller.
I guess Dallas would have to add something, although I don't know what.
The Rangers have Richards, Anisimov, Kreider and Stepan for their current centers. Since reaching the ECF they will really push hard next year for the cup. Several things need to fall through for them for this to happen though. Like NY missing out on Parise and Nash. They only have 4 D signed for next year, with Del Zotto and Stralman as RFA's. So they might want a Morrow + Fistric. Or, Biron is a UFA and might take Morrow + Bachman.
I would think Morrow would want to go to a contender, which NYR should be next year.
My reasoning for Dallas adding is that Morrow is only signed for 1 more year and Miller was NYR's 15th overall in the 1st round last year. I think realistically he will be at best a 2C in the NHL. His first year in the OHL he was a point a game player. He is 6'1", 200 lbs. Seems like a guy Joe would like.
Let's be realistic though ... before we start debating trade offers for Nash ... someone should come up with a decent reason he'd put Dallas on his list.
... and, "Dallas is close to breaking out with young talent and new owner." won't fly IMO. So was Columbus at the beginning of last season. They were all in, they just picked the wrong pieces. He’s been on a young team his entire career. He’ll have his pick of top franchises like the NY Rangers, Boston, etc.
8 million on a guy who's not even a career ppg player who's on the back end of his career? We can do way better than that.
The fact is that Rick Nash practically has negative value at this point. You could find 3 guys on the free agent market for say 4 mil / 3 mil / 1 mil that would help the team out much more than he would.
Would you guys do this? I posted it in the Nash thread, but no responses yet.
(Assumes Dallas untouchables are Benn, Eriksson, and Lehtonen, seeing as I wouldn't trade any of them for Nash straight-up.)
I'll pass on that. I think that IF we were going to trade all of them, we could get more young studs that will eventually out -produce Nash. I'm also not a big fan of Nash either. He's a great player and everything, but I think he is a bit over rated.