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View Poll Results: 3rd ov. + (Tinordi or Beaulieu) for 1st ov?
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06-25-2012, 05:23 PM
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I'd give Kristo and one of next year's 2nds for Ott without a doubt.
How about Desharnias for Ott.

That gives us Pleks, Eller, Ott & White/or UFA down the middle.

Then depending on the standings & Yukkies development in Sarina, maybe an opportunity to move Pleks at the deadline.

I'd rather save the upcoming picks until we see where the picks are positioned. My theory is keep stocking the cupboards for assets to be used when this team is ready to contend & use some as trade bait.

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06-25-2012, 05:42 PM
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How about Desharnias for Ott.

That gives us Pleks, Eller, Ott & White/or UFA down the middle.

Then depending on the standings & Yukkies development in Sarina, maybe an opportunity to move Pleks at the deadline.

I'd rather save the upcoming picks until we see where the picks are positioned. My theory is keep stocking the cupboards for assets to be used when this team is ready to contend & use some as trade bait.
That is literally one of the grossest proposals I've ever seen.

Desharnais, who scored 60 points in his first full season last year for

Steve...Ott?

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06-25-2012, 05:50 PM
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Just speculation. thoughts?

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Steve Ott remains in play ... My own personal belief is that he'd be a great fit in Montreal. He's got size and skill, defend some teammates
He's pretty cowardly. We could find a bunch of other players instead.

I'd rather give 3.5 mill a year to Gaustad than trade anything for Ott.

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06-25-2012, 05:52 PM
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It depends on whether you believe Desharnias is core piece of the puzzle.

Personally I don`t, IMO we have & can still accumulate better assets for this team then DD.

Get Dallas to throw in a mid to late round pick then with Ott. You have to give to get.

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06-25-2012, 10:16 PM
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Steve Ott remains in play ... My own personal belief is that he'd be a great fit in Montreal. He's got size and skill, defend some teammates
I can't agree more with LeBrun on that one. Gainey knowing the Habs the way he does might want a certain player. Worth the call for sure. 278 hits, 55.5% on faceoffs, 6 majors, can contribute offensively... Bring him on and put him on a line with Moen and Prust!

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06-26-2012, 08:45 AM
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Any positions that need to be filled should be from the prospects coming through the system and not by trading any of the veteran core group.Trading of any other players should be to enrich the abundance of draft choices already in the 2013 Entry Draft.Build for the immediate future with top flight offensive players to join those picked this season.When they mature the new dynasty will begin.
I'd rather get a low risk UFA than rush prospects into roles they are not ready for. LeBlanc is the closest to ready and showed flashes last year but probably still needs a half year AHL if not a full year. Same for guys like Pateryn Beaulieu and Tinordi.

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06-26-2012, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the responses re: Cole. Looks like the Caps can't afford him.

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06-26-2012, 10:10 AM
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It depends on whether you believe Desharnias is core piece of the puzzle.

Personally I don`t, IMO we have & can still accumulate better assets for this team then DD.

Get Dallas to throw in a mid to late round pick then with Ott. You have to give to get.
I don't think DD is a core piece but that doesn't automatically mean we should trade him. He's a complimentary player that makes the player around him better. I'd prefer to keep him.

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06-26-2012, 10:15 AM
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Ott and one of Faksa/Oleksiak for Desharnais and Kristo?

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06-26-2012, 11:32 AM
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It depends on whether you believe Desharnias is core piece of the puzzle.

Personally I don`t, IMO we have & can still accumulate better assets for this team then DD.

Get Dallas to throw in a mid to late round pick then with Ott. You have to give to get.
It has nothing to do with whehter or not you see Desharnais as a core player.

It has to do with the logical (or lack of) of trading a center who got 60 points in his first season at 25, for a 30 year old who has never had more than 46 points in a season and not only that but makes almost 4 times as much as DD for next season.

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06-26-2012, 12:33 PM
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I don't see Desharnais going anywhere this year unless we are getting a ton back. He is one of the biggest cap bargains in the NHL. 850k cap hit for a guy with #1 center production.

As for Ott he would be a nice addition. I wonder what the price would be? Is it a cost cutting move or are they trying to get Beaulieu or Tinordi for him. If I could get him for Weber and a 3rd to 5th I would do it for sure. As the price increases I would lean more towards no. We are at a point where we need to keep our young assets unless we are getting great return on them. Weber is expendable because of Diaz Subban Markov and Beaulieu. Our 3rd and 5ths could be expendable necause of our 1st and 3x 2nds.

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06-26-2012, 05:01 PM
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I don't think DD is a core piece but that doesn't automatically mean we should trade him. He's a complimentary player that makes the player around him better. I'd prefer to keep him.

Think about it this way, if DD is not a core player why wouldn't you trade him for a heart & soul guy, who gives his all every night & bring veteran leadership to a young team. Plus he would be the perfect tutor for Ryan White, who I see as more of a core player than DD. Plekanec can easily slip into DD spot.

DD had 60pts, excellent sell a stock when it is hot, especially when it is not a core asset. Plekanec's stock would most likely rise as well, thus increasing his value when the time comes to be moved.


I see Galchenyuk & Eller are the core centermen for the Habs. As for White, I see him as a key player third line in the Habs future. Without the White's of the NHL, teams never get far in the playoffs.

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06-26-2012, 05:02 PM
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It has nothing to do with whehter or not you see Desharnais as a core player.

It has to do with the logical (or lack of) of trading a center who got 60 points in his first season at 25, for a 30 year old who has never had more than 46 points in a season and not only that but makes almost 4 times as much as DD for next season.

It's not just about stats.

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06-26-2012, 05:09 PM
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What about this:


Steve Ott
Radek Faksa
Jamie Oleksiak


David Desharnais
Danny Kristo
A 2013 Pick

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06-26-2012, 05:12 PM
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What about this:


Steve Ott
Radek Faksa
Jamie Oleksiak


David Desharnais
Danny Kristo
A 2013 Pick
That makes no sense, fill one hole and open up another.

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06-26-2012, 05:16 PM
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What about this:


Steve Ott
Radek Faksa
Jamie Oleksiak


David Desharnais
Danny Kristo
A 2013 Pick
Take off Kristo and the pick, and Gainey is all over this.

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06-26-2012, 05:37 PM
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What about this:


Steve Ott
Radek Faksa
Jamie Oleksiak


David Desharnais
Danny Kristo
A 2013 Pick
'a 2013 pick', how vague can you get?

And no way we're trading desharnais this year.

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'a 2012 pick', how vague can you get?

And no way we're trading desharnais this year.
Agreed, if Habs want to tank and get great 2013 picks, I'm all for it though, and we'd get 2 pretty good prospects back along with Ott, who'd be an instant fit on our 3rd line.

But losing Desharnais ? Bah, we have Gomez

PS And, the guy said '2013 pick', not 2012

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Agreed, if Habs want to tank and get great 2013 picks, I'm all for it though, and we'd get 2 pretty good prospects back along with Ott, who'd be an instant fit on our 3rd line.

But losing Desharnais ? Bah, we have Gomez

PS And, the guy said '2013 pick', not 2012
Right you are! My mistake.

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'a 2012 pick', how vague can you get?

And no way we're trading desharnais this year.
I wasn't sure which round would be reasonable, so I just wrote "2013 pick"

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Think about it this way, if DD is not a core player why wouldn't you trade him for a heart & soul guy, who gives his all every night & bring veteran leadership to a young team. Plus he would be the perfect tutor for Ryan White, who I see as more of a core player than DD. Plekanec can easily slip into DD spot.

DD had 60pts, excellent sell a stock when it is hot, especially when it is not a core asset. Plekanec's stock would most likely rise as well, thus increasing his value when the time comes to be moved.


I see Galchenyuk & Eller are the core centermen for the Habs. As for White, I see him as a key player third line in the Habs future. Without the White's of the NHL, teams never get far in the playoffs.
When they actually step up and play like they belong on the top two lines we can talk about trading DD. Until then no thanks.

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http://www.canada.com/sports/Ralph+K...704/story.html
not that it is pertinent to anything being discussed here, but has anyone heard of the rumour posted in the comment section in this article today?

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http://www.canada.com/sports/Ralph+K...704/story.html
not that it is pertinent to anything being discussed here, but has anyone heard of the rumour posted in the comment section in this article today?
Sounds way out in left field.

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not that it is pertinent to anything being discussed here, but has anyone heard of the rumour posted in the comment section in this article today?
Nothing but Astroturfing BS in my humble opinion.

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this would have to be an Unimaginable return to happen ... BS too for me!

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