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05-22-2012, 12:28 PM
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Put Paul Henderson in the Hockey Hall of Fame

Remember, they put Tretiak in the Hockey Hall of Fame, yet the Soviets (CCCP) lost the series?????????

http://www.putpaulinthehall.ca/

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tretiak is in the hall for a reason, the hall is for elite players

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Outside of 8 games in September 1972 Paul Henderson was an average to good player. He did great things in those 8 games, but he was not a "great" player - at least not by what Hockey Hall of Fame standards are or at least should be.

He may be held on the same lofty regard as Gretzky or Richard, but he was nowhere near their level of player. He was a solid winger who went up and down his wing in workmanlike fashion for over 1000 major league games, over 700 of which were in the National Hockey League. Unlike most Hall of Famers he never won a single post-season award or was named to an all star team. His best season was a 38 goal explosion in 1971-72 but his highest NHL single season point production was just 60 points. And he never won a Stanley Cup.

When electing players to the Hockey Hall of Fame, we must look at each players' career as a whole. We can not look at a small sampling of his career. When we do that it becomes obvious that Paul Henderson does not belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

That's alright. He doesn't need to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame. His status as a hockey immortal far exceeds most of the Hall of Famers. And he will forever be remembered in hockey folklore.
http://www.1972summitseries.com/hendersoninthehall.html

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tretiak is in the hall for a reason, the hall is for elite players
lots of players in that aren't elite.

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Paul Henderson. He was no Dick Duff.

Henderson is a legend. If the Hall does not want him, they are diminished.

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No, and Liam Maguire you should really give this a rest.

Henderson had a pedestrian NHL career and simply was a "right place right time" player.
How many Olympics did he lead? How about subsequent Canada Cups?

Put it this way:

Is the NHL's first goal-scorer in? Found Dave Ritchie for this. Is he in?
Is the first Olympic goal-scorer in?
Is the first NHL playoff-clincher in?
Is the first NHL playoff overtime scorer in?
How about the first overtime goal in the NHL?

See where I'm going with this?
Tretiak is in because he had dominance over an extended period.

Henderson does not belong in the NHL Hall of Fame.
If the IIHF wants to honour him, that would be the spot.

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his career was average except for his play in the summit series, does not belong in the hall of fame....final judgement

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Paul Henderson definitely does not belong in the Hall of Fame. Anyone who thinks that he does obviously does not know what the Hall of Fame stands for and what it takes to be inducted to this elite group of players. He was an average to slightly above average NHL player who scored one big goal in his career.

This is not indicative of a Hall of Famer.

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Remember, they put Tretiak in the Hockey Hall of Fame, yet the Soviets (CCCP) lost the series?????????

http://www.putpaulinthehall.ca/
You already lost your argument...

One goal by itself (no matter how important) does not make a player qualify for the HHOF.

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If Henderson was a HHOF-worthy player, he'd have been inducted years ago.

One fluke Summit Series goal doesn't make him a lock for the Hall.

That would be like me clamoring for Brenden Morrow to make the HHOF had he scored the Olympic OT winner instead of Crosby.

Hell, even Crosby doesn't deserve to make it in based solely on that one goal. Same goes for Henderson.

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One goal shouldn't get you into the Hall of Fame.

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Put him in the Canadian sports hall of fame, unless he's already been inducted there?

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Remember, they put Tretiak in the Hockey Hall of Fame, yet the Soviets (CCCP) lost the series?????????

http://www.putpaulinthehall.ca/
yeah, that's why they put Tretiak in...

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In my heart I would love to see Henderon in, but not sure if he quite meets the criteria. Robert Reichel scored the winner for the Czech's in '98 but don't think I would put him in either.

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In my heart I would love to see Henderon in, but not sure if he quite meets the criteria. Robert Reichel scored the winner for the Czech's in '98 but don't think I would put him in either.
That was Petr Svoboda.

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Svoboda scored the game winner against Russia. But of course for Mr Kanadensisk only Canada matters: the moment the Czechs eliminated Canada, they had the Gold Medal pretty much ensured and so Reichel's game winning penalty shot in the Semi Finals becomes "the winner".


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tretiak is in the hall for a reason, the hall is for elite players

Obviously, the criteria for admission is not limited to NHL performance. Otherwise, Tretiak wouldn't be admissable. Without Henderson and Phil Esposito, it is unlikely that Canada would have won the 1972 series. No one else on the team was producing like those two. Of the two, I would give the edge to Henderson, because he scored so many clutch goals that were game-winners. His style of play was ideally suited to international play (he was the fastest skater in the NHL during that era, and he had the magnificent puck-handling skills to complete the package), and his impact on the history of hockey is likely far greater than most who are in the hockey hall.

I would also question why, if he wasn't elite, was he selected to Team Canada in the first place? In 1972, there no Europeans and only 3 or 4 Americans in the NHL, so I would have to believe he was considered to be elite by those who selected the team.

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One goal shouldn't get you into the Hall of Fame.
He scored more than one game-winning goal when Canada's back was literally to the wall. He scored key goals, and was Canada's best offensive player (all due respect to Phil Esposito) during the entire series. He was one of the main reasons Canada won, and not just Game 8.

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So everybody that has ever won the Conn Smythe should get into the HoF? Even that comparison is overly-generous to Henderson.

I can't believe we're having a serious discussion about this. One that involves disparaging Tretiak to boost Henderson. Madness. Insobriety. Immaturity. Something untoward.

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So everybody that has ever won the Conn Smythe should get into the HoF? Even that comparison is overly-generous to Henderson.

I can't believe we're having a serious discussion about this. One that involves disparaging Tretiak to boost Henderson. Madness. Insobriety. Immaturity. Something untoward.
This.

It just goes to show that some people have no understanding of what it takes to get into the Hall of Fame. Henderson should be in the IIHF Hall of Fame, but not the Hockey Hall of Fame.

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Svoboda scored the game winner against Russia. But of course for Mr Kanadensisk only Canada matters: the moment the Czechs eliminated Canada, they had the Gold Medal pretty much ensured and so Reichel's game winning penalty shot in the Semi Finals becomes "the winner".

got me there, I was thinking of the Canada game

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Remember, they put Tretiak in the Hockey Hall of Fame, yet the Soviets (CCCP) lost the series?????????

http://www.putpaulinthehall.ca/
Henderson has always been an average two-way player who just happen to light up for few games in the fall on 1972...

Having him in the HoF makes as much sense than having Dickie Duff up there...

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If one good series gets you in, Franzen should have his waiting period waived for dismantling the Avs a few years ago. All that needs to be said has been said, but comparing Tretiak to Henderson shows a shaky understanding of hockey history.

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Obviously, the criteria for admission is not limited to NHL performance. Otherwise, Tretiak wouldn't be admissable.
International performance matters, but what did Henderson do outside of the 1972 Summit? It was by far his brightest hour. No comparison to Tretiak.

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I would also question why, if he wasn't elite, was he selected to Team Canada in the first place? In 1972, there no Europeans and only 3 or 4 Americans in the NHL, so I would have to believe he was considered to be elite by those who selected the team.
All in all there were 37 players selected for the team. All of them were good NHL players, but I wouldn't necessarily call the 10th best defenseman in the NHL or the 8th best left wing "elite". Are Jocelyn Guvremont and Bill Goldsworthy elite players in your opinion? I wouldn't call Slava Solodukhin or Yuri Shatalov elite players either, even though they were selected for Team USSR.

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Put him in the Canadian sports hall of fame, unless he's already been inducted there?
Agreed. He is already in there, as he should be.

He should be in the HHoF in a special exhibit on the 72 Series perhaps, but not in the Hall proper IMO. If he should be in there, should Mike Eruzione be in there as well? He scored a pretty big goal in hockey history as well.

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