I still don't see how people could criticize Dan Harmon. What he did for the franchise was genius.
His insight will be missed this season
He will be missed, but, I think the upshot of him leaving is that he and the other very talented people involved with the show (including the cast) are not likely to get trapped into a show that's going to extend years after it stops bringing fresh ideas. If Harmon stayed on, I think they could have gotten another brilliant year in, but, things would start to slip, but, if it was making money, NBC wouldn't let it go.
Harmon will find other projects, and, I'm eager to see what he does. After this season (which I'm convinced will be the last), I'd like to see what a lot of guys on the cast and writing crew do.
Season three essentially became a walking caricature. Normally you don't see that kind of ridiculous writing until you get to season 5 or later.
I don't think that the writing was so much 'bad' as it was Harmon being upset with NBC/Sony and deciding to test them by making the show as 'weird' as possible (seriously, 'Dreamatorium' episodes, an 8-bit episode...not that they weren't funny, but he pushed the button when they said 'Don't push the button'); I love Community more than most TV shows, but 'weird' shows alienate people (hence the ****** numbers), and big corporations like NBC and Sony are not in the business of alienating viewers, they're in the business of making money.
I'm watching season one right now on DVD, and that was just some magical **** right there. I wish him success, but I know why he was canned; he did not want to play ball, and NBC is not HBO or AMC; you have to play ball if you want a job there.
A good final four, though I'd give Segel and NPH the nod over TBBT cast. Not necessarily for the shows, but for the cast, since that's what this was for.
With Carrell, the Office would belong in the final 4 too.
Community was a deserved champ though.
EDIT: Just noticed Sunny bounced in the second round... no good.
^ Nice to see Awkward up there but Wilred and Episodes were both quite a bit better especially this season. Also hilarious that 2 Broke Girls is there but not New Girl or The League. Also The ***** in Apt 23 was better than BBT last season but I guess BBT's peak was pretty good.
It sucked to have Community and Parks and Rec face off against each other in the first round. Two great casts, but, I'd put Parks and Rec as the best cast personally. It's a solid group all the way down.
Also, The League should be on there. That's a solid cast as well.
Eh, its not that big of a deal and Joe Adalian of Vulture called it also. He pretty much said they would back pocket it and throw it in a spot that is failing.
It's going to actually work out better. Now it doesn't die on Friday nights, which was almost certainly going to be a slow and painful death. Now it'll most likely be on Wednesday replacing either one of Guys with Kids/Animal Practice, or possibly Tuesdays with the New Normal. My guess is that it ends up on Wednesdays at 8:30 after Guys with Kids is cancelled.
I just saw the season premiere of Happy Endings (the people who are now gonna be writing Community).
Anyways I've been watching that show since it began and it's generally decent like this past episode but it was nothing special and I'd be really disappointed if Community became this.
The two main problems I have is that the references are a bit too forced. They're also quite obscure at times to me (I know people say that about Community but those ones seem to work). They make the characters wacky like on Community but it's not as....believable?
And the episode just wasn't that funny, more like a chuckle or smile at a joke but nothing special. I also hate how they always try to get two of the characters in a given episode to have some sort of minor conflict and then make up quickly in the end, it doesn't have that unpredictability at all.
Anyways I sound fairly critical and it's not a bad show or anything but I'm surprised by its success, must be a lot of Elisha Cuthbert fans and people who are completists and watch The Simpsons still like me even though it's turned to crap.
Happy Endings is pretty much the definition of mediocre, IMO.
I don't think it's as innovative as Community or as funny as P&R but it is a really well done sitcom. I like it a lot actually, it has a lot going for it but it is still very sitcom-y and it's on a network to boot so it can't really push the envelopes in any direction. I prefer it to Modern Family, and s3 community.
I don't think it's as innovative as Community or as funny as P&R but it is a really well done sitcom. I like it a lot actually, it has a lot going for it but it is still very sitcom-y and it's on a network to boot so it can't really push the envelopes in any direction. I prefer it to Modern Family, and s3 community.
I think I've seen like four or five episodes and it's one of the more annoying things I've bothered to try recently. Feels like How I Met Your Mother combined with Friends trying disperately to have the edge, pace, and look of the more new-wave comedies and missing the mark completely. I don't see the appeal at all.
S3 of Community had some awful awful episodes (and I guess it's possible that I only landed on the bad ones with Happy Endings, but I really didn't get that vibe), but it seemed to be hitting a much much higher peak, IMO-- for my money, that's the important thing.
reportedly used the N word on set and shocked the cast and crew
to put it in context the new show runner is making his character more racist in the Archie Bunker way and it was reported after getting a last minute rewrite he said "What the ****, next thing they will have me calling the blacks *******(own editing as I wont type the word) and that led to the shutdown
