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05-23-2012, 11:11 PM
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I am a huge optimist but its extremely unfair to rag on Dantes19 after tonight.

To say this was a debilitating loss is quite the understatement.


I agree; yet, according to some on here, you are a 'fake fan' for posting that opinion.

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1) He's been at his in 40% of the games this series

2) Why didn't he bounce back from game 4?

3) 0 in the last two games (though on few attempts). We're not scoring **** even with the PP goals.

4) Dubinsky sucks this year, he won't be the difference maker.

5) Only valid point. But how many were following losses like this?
Yeah, **** it. throw in the towel........ call the NHL, forfeit..... it's over.

I usually stay away from our depressing home board...... but occasionally I revisit just to remind myself why.

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it just seems like they are only capable of urgency when they are down, whether in a game or in any of the series as a whole. they play to break even, not to lose.

funny, i used to scream at Renney for this mentality. Seems worse with Tortorella. although it's not his fault we have hardly any top scoring talent.
But it's not THEM!

It's when they have TIME afforded them by any team NOT playing that forecheck.

It... Is... Not... A failure by the NYR when things go wrong, and not a success either when they go right. It is the Devils (or teams like them) backing off.

I think they can win game 6.

But I'll say: if the Devils come
Out with that fore check it'll be 2-0 before the end of 1 again, because we have no answer.

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05-23-2012, 11:12 PM
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The Devils aren't the Senators. Looking at the situation realistically, there's very little reason to think the Rangers will win the next 2.


Have to accept the fact that the series is most probably over.
Oh shut up.

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05-23-2012, 11:13 PM
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Yeah, **** it. throw in the towel........ call the NHL, forfeit..... it's over.

I usually stay away from our depressing home board...... but occasionally I revisit just to remind myself why.
At this point I'm giving 90% over. 80% because those are the chances of coming back from 3-2 down and 10% because of the way they lost this game. Not 100%, but pretty close to it.

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height of all douchery.



Actually, it's not, since he first called into question my devotion/'true-ness' as a fan. I was pointing out why it was silly of him to do that.


But, I wouldn't expect you to actually acknowledge any kind of logic.

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05-23-2012, 11:14 PM
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At this point I'm giving 90% over. 80% because those are the chances of coming back from 3-2 down and 10% because of the way they lost this game. Not 100%, but pretty close to it.
Again, this was you all season.... I wouldn't expect any less.

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05-23-2012, 11:15 PM
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Oh shut up.



Anyone who disagrees with you is automatically wrong.


Anyone who expresses any kind of severe doubt automatically loses their fan status.


Go ahead and lecture me on what it means to be a real fan...

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Again, this was you all season.... I wouldn't expect any less.
I'm not being reactionary like I've been a good portion of the season on game day threads. I don't see why last post was so unreasonable.

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Yeah, it's over.

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05-23-2012, 11:18 PM
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Your opinion on this is truly absurd. I've stood by this team through the darkest parts of their existence. I didn't climb on recently on like some bandwagon fans around here. You have the most limited and unsophisticated concept of being a fan I've ever seen on these boards. What's wrong with looking at reality? Why is that such a taboo idea? Why does expressing doubt automatically me from being a 'true fan'?

The idea that I person has to be blindly optimistic in order to be a 'true fan' is preposterous, and the fact that you can't see that is just sad. I mean, I guess it was easy to be a fan in the '98-'04 years right? And anyone who expressed pessimism at any point was not a true fan? And expressing doubt when Drury scored with 7.7 left would've made a fake, too, I assume?


I will be watching Game 6, and I will be desperately hoping the Rangers win. Expressing doubt about their ability to do so certainly doesn't make any less of a fan than a luminary like yourself.
no body cares when or how long you have been rooting for them... no body.

it can be done and its not about blind optimism. its about not whining about it and backing it up with "im looking at reality".

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Thank you. Honestly, when they do poorly I need a place to vent. When they do well, what am I going to right "yay, go Gabby!"? Everyone saw the goal, no need to post it. Also I'm not a Hank hater per se. I just hate the fact that I think he has the talent and technical skills to be Patrick friggin Roy but then chokes. First he likely chokes away the Vezina possibly in the last game of the season. Now he possibly choked away a finals berth. He can be so much more than he is and it pisses me off.
Patrick Roy had better teams in front of him than Hank has had and has. The last 2 games aren't really a fair sample size on Henrik.

Own goal by Stralman in game 4. Terrible 2 on 1 leaving Henrik w no chance. 3rd goal I'll say was weak but he was trying to position himself, it was a reflex.

Tonight another tip in by a player left alone in front of Henrik. Another own goal by Stralman. I'll debate that the 3rd goal could have been saved again although it was more difficult than some are making it seem to save. The 4th goal again he had little to no chance to save.

1 maybe 2 weak goals out of 7. I dunno how to defend him other than that, he's been our backbone for years, including this one, and has clearly been our MVP throughout the season and playoffs. Without Henrik we're not anywhere near the #1 seed, we're not making it this far in the playoffs either.

Don't be so quick to get down on him just yet, he was spectacular in game 7 against Washington and spectacular against Ottawa in games 6 and 7 in round one. Who knows, he might just stand on his head 2 more times before this series is all said and done.

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05-23-2012, 11:19 PM
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Because thinking they are done does not make me any less of a fan. I'm not sure why it's hard for people like you to comprehend the fact that there's more to being a fan than just being unrelentingly optimistic. There's nothing wrong with urgently hoping the team wins suspecting strongly that they won't.


Also, the irony of you, the 1 month veteran, telling me to leave is purely laughable. Again, try to follow this: you don't get to set the rules. Perhaps you shouldn't insult someone who has been here far longer and, in all likelihood, been following the team a lot longer (long before '89).


I think we can win, too, by the way. I've specifically posted that, but you seem to have missed it. What I said is that I don't think they will. There's nothing heretical about that. I don't have a problem with people who disagree with me -- it seems incredibly clear that you are the one who has a problem with people who have an opinion that differs from yours. I respect your right to your opinion, so perhaps you could be sophisticated enough to do the same.
I'd like to think that just because you spent 9 years on a message board doesn't make you a better fan. Not everyone had the opportunity of being birthed in the 70's/80's to be watching that long. Just because you have seniority does't mean newer posters can't insult you (no one should insult anyone regardless).Thats like me saying you can't talk down to me because you don't live in NY so I'm the superior fan.

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People are being negative because there is a lot to be negative about.
This was the first "statement" game that we lost all year. Hank was off his game, Richards was invisible. DelZotto was -3 and a train wreck for the second consecutive game, Stepan is now a waste of a roster spot, Hagelin is totally snakebit.

Look at the Devils- they get key goals from superstars Ponikarovsky and Ryan freakin' Carter this playoff series. Besides the goal tonight from Prust, when are our grinders going to step up.

Another ugly, ugly start to the game for us. Yeah, we found our legs after going down 3-0- so what? This is a demoralizing loss for sure.

And to think, after all the dominating Hank has done against the Devs in the regular season, to be eliminated by them in what was supposed to be the year of destiny, the year that all the breaks fell right? I'd like to be optimistic, but this might be Hank's only sniff at a cup in his career.

This game sucked. Hard.

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my head hurts alot from this game.....

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Actually, it's not, since he first called into question my devotion/'true-ness' as a fan. I was pointing out why it was silly of him to do that.


But, I wouldn't expect you to actually acknowledge any kind of logic.
the best point made in that post was my quote at the top of it. he did question you and you came back with i have more posts than you. you have reached the height of the douchery mountain and i bet you smoked a cigarette when you got there.

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no body cares when or how long you have been rooting for them... no body.

it can be done and its not about blind optimism. its about not whining about it and backing it up with "im looking at reality".
Take off the rose colored glasses, and realize that voicing concern or even doubt does not make you a bad fan. There are some people who love their sports teams like a 5 year old loves mommy "Mommy can do no wrong ever!", and there are some people who love their sports teams like a jaded new yorker "Well, sometimes we suck but I still buy my tickets, watch my games, and etc." Just because someone is not the same type of fan you are does not make them any less a fan, does not make their opinion any less valid.

Hell if it wasn't for differing opinions this entire board would be one giant **********.

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Yeah, it's over.
Cynical much?

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But it's not THEM!

It's when they have TIME afforded them by any team NOT playing that forecheck.

It... Is... Not... A failure by the NYR when things go wrong, and not a success either when they go right. It is the Devils (or teams like them) backing off.

I think they can win game 6.

But I'll say: if the Devils come
Out with that fore check it'll be 2-0 before the end of 1 again, because we have no answer.
earlier in the season we had an answer. our defense is fried, chasing their tails...

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To say this was a debilitating loss is quite the understatement.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2011030115
So was that.

I'm not going to waste too much more time trying to spread my optimism. But even after the last two disappointments, this team is a two game winning streak away from the Stanley Cup Finals. 27 teams would want that position.

I'm sure there was similar pessimism after the Rangers lost 2 chances to win the Cup in 1994. Here's what Mark Messier had to say:

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We’ve had a chance to win Games 5 & 6, they responded. They played well. But [the way] we’re looking at it, we have an opportunity to go home for Game 7 to win a Stanley Cup. And, like I say, what more can you ask for than that?

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People are being negative because there is a lot to be negative about.
This was the first "statement" game that we lost all year. Hank was off his game, Richards was invisible. DelZotto was -3 and a train wreck for the second consecutive game, Stepan is now a waste of a roster spot, Hagelin is totally snakebit.

Look at the Devils- they get key goals from superstars Ponikarovsky and Ryan freakin' Carter this playoff series. Besides the goal tonight from Prust, when are our grinders going to step up.

Another ugly, ugly start to the game for us. Yeah, we found our legs after going down 3-0- so what? This is a demoralizing loss for sure.

And to think, after all the dominating Hank has done against the Devs in the regular season, to be eliminated by them in what was supposed to be the year of destiny, the year that all the breaks fell right? I'd like to be optimistic, but this might be Hank's only sniff at a cup in his career.

This game sucked. Hard.
Game 5 against Ottawa was also a statement game...

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Patrick Roy had better teams in front of him than Hank has had and has. The last 2 games aren't really a fair sample size on Henrik.

Own goal by Stralman in game 4. Terrible 2 on 1 leaving Henrik w no chance. 3rd goal I'll say was weak but he was trying to position himself, it was a reflex.

Tonight another tip in by a player left alone in front of Henrik. Another own goal by Stralman. I'll debate that the 3rd goal could have been saved again although it was more difficult than some are making it seem to save. The 4th goal again he had little to no chance to save.

1 maybe 2 weak goals out of 7. I dunno how to defend him other than that, he's been our backbone for years, including this one, and has clearly been our MVP throughout the season and playoffs. Without Henrik we're not anywhere near the #1 seed, we're not making it this far in the playoffs either.

Don't be so quick to get down on him just yet, he was spectacular in game 7 against Washington and spectacular against Ottawa in games 6 and 7 in round one. Who knows, he might just stand on his head 2 more times before this series is all said and done.
Patrick Roy's Montreal teams weren't anything to write home about though.

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Look at the Devils- they get key goals from superstars Ponikarovsky and Ryan freakin' Carter this playoff series. Besides the goal tonight from Prust, when are our grinders going to step up.

This game sucked. Hard.
don't forget Stephen Fing Gionta too.....the Scrub of the 2 Gionta Bros.

And yes.....When the ****** are our Grinders ever going to contribute? Rupper? Big baby Boyle? Guess Pruster scored so that counts???

and yes......SUCKED HARD

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Take off the rose colored glasses, and realize that voicing concern or even doubt does not make you a bad fan. There are some people who love their sports teams like a 5 year old loves mommy "Mommy can do no wrong ever!", and there are some people who love their sports teams like a jaded new yorker "Well, sometimes we suck but I still buy my tickets, watch my games, and etc." Just because someone is not the same type of fan you are does not make them any less a fan, does not make their opinion any less valid.

Hell if it wasn't for differing opinions this entire board would be one giant **********.
i dont wear glasses because i have perfect eyesight.

but he and whoever "looks at reality" is a quiter. and if theres one thing i cant stand, its a guy that gives up when something gets hard. "because surrender is death. and death is for *******"

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