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Can Boston Move up in DRAFT?

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05-27-2012, 12:53 PM
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Can Boston Move up in DRAFT?

AGAIN STAYING AWAY FROM HAMILTON AND SEGUIN. ANY CHANCE BOSTON CAN MOVE UP TO A TOP 10 PICK OR EVEN A TOP 5 PICK IN THIS YEARS DRAFT?

What is the Value to grab the 2nd overall pick from the Jackets? Is Rask in play at that point? Will it cost just as much to land Nash or Less?

Does Rask/Boychuk and 23rd overall get it done. Sorry not a huge Boychuk fan.

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AGAIN STAYING AWAY FROM HAMILTON AND SEGUIN. ANY CHANCE BOSTON CAN MOVE UP TO A TOP 10 PICK OR EVEN A TOP 5 PICK IN THIS YEARS DRAFT?

What is the Value to grab the 2nd overall pick from the Jackets? Is Rask in play at that point? Will it cost just as much to land Nash or Less?

Does Rask/Boychuk and 23rd overall get it done. Sorry not a huge Boychuk fan.
I like Boychuk but it seems he only scores from the point with his "Johny rockets" and every time he pinches it turns out to be a bust and a goal the other way lol and you can see it about to happen every time..

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Lucic? I don't think rask can get you top-5. TB would give you theirs for him i think, whats that like 9/10?

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why does Boston want to overpay for prospects/high picks when they are contending for a cup??

Makes no sense.

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Lucic? I don't think rask can get you top-5. TB would give you theirs for him i think, whats that like 9/10?
I think Rask is worth more then a 9/10.

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why does Boston want to overpay for prospects/high picks when they are contending for a cup??

Makes no sense.
Yeah this too...the only player i could really see them being interested in anyway is Yakupov...and it would cost too much.


What specific need to you have for another Center/D prospect? Your team is loaded and you've got Hamilton in waiting.

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Yeah this too...the only player i could really see them being interested in anyway is Yakupov...and it would cost too much.


What specific need to you have for another Center/D prospect? Your team is loaded and you've got Hamilton in waiting.
Exactly.

Boston moving up in the draft makes sense if there is a player they want... maybe from 5-10 spots... but Boston isn't breaking into the top 10.

I mean, they certainly could with their assets... but why would they??... anything in top 10 you will need to give up a core piece of this team... and right now that makes 0 sense... if Boston was Calgary and had all aging Vets/looking to rebuild... sure, makes sense... Not the case for Boston, they are in win NOW mode.

This thread is completly silly and uneccassary.

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why does Boston want to overpay for prospects/high picks when they are contending for a cup??

Makes no sense.
If you could get Nail Yakupov you wouldnt. Sign Thomas for another 2 years after next years contract and worry about a goalie in free agency after that.

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I think Rask is worth more then a 9/10.
Meh i disagree, i think his value is 6-10. Similar to Schneider. Luongo/Thomas IMO are a late 1st.

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Meh i disagree, i think his value is 6-10. Similar to Schneider. Luongo/Thomas IMO are a late 1st.
Ok so i said Rask and Boychuk that should get you in the top 5

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If you could get Nail Yakupov you wouldnt. Sign Thomas for another 2 years after next years contract and worry about a goalie in free agency after that.
Was that mis-typed?


No pick 2-10 is getting you him. And if you want him, you will have to pay big, which you probably don't want to do. Frankly im not sure Oilers would take any deal if Hamilton and Seguin are off the table.

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Meh i disagree, i think his value is 6-10. Similar to Schneider. Luongo/Thomas IMO are a late 1st.
I could see Rask netting a top 5 from a goalie-strapped team (EDM, CBJ, TOR if they hadn't been the team to draft him in the first place lol). He's a legitimate young starter, and those are hard to come by.

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If you could get Nail Yakupov you wouldnt. Sign Thomas for another 2 years after next years contract and worry about a goalie in free agency after that.
so... basically robbing Peter (future goaltending) to pay Paul (scoring winger)...

Makes no sense.

To get the #1 pick or event top 5 we will lose a player that is part of this teams core....no thanks.

Winning Cups>Shiny new toys

This is a very silly thread.

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Ok so i said Rask and Boychuk that should get you in the top 5
Well i dont know much about boychuck, but hes about to make 3.6 annually and doesn't put up points.

Depending on how NYI/TOR valued those two players i suppose it could get you their picks, but im guessing fans here would object.

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I could see Rask netting a top 5 from a goalie-strapped team (EDM, CBJ, TOR if they hadn't been the team to draft him in the first place lol). He's a legitimate young starter, and those are hard to come by.
Well as an oiler fan i would be appalled at that trade, i imagine CBJ would feel the same. TOR would probably want more coming back.

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Sure Patrick Kane for Tim Thomas and then Flip Kane for a top 5 pick and a couple 1sts.

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Well as an oiler fan i would be appalled at that trade, i imagine CBJ would feel the same. TOR would probably want more coming back.
Ya the most common proposal I've seen for Edmonton-Boston is Rask+Hamiltion for the 1st Overall which I think no Boston fans wanted any part of.

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Maybe they can get Toronto's again?

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Well i dont know much about boychuck, but hes about to make 3.6 annually and doesn't put up points.

Depending on how NYI/TOR valued those two players i suppose it could get you their picks, but im guessing fans here would object.
NYI are very happy with the way Poulin and Nilsson are developing.

I think Koskinen had an erractic season,but with the way Poulin and Nilsson are looking,making a major trade for a young goalie,won't happen.

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NYI are very happy with the way Poulin and Nilsson are developing.

I think Koskinen had an erractic season,but with the way Poulin and Nilsson are looking,making a major trade for a young goalie,won't happen.
Yeah i dont know why i added NYI, same with EDM we are going with Dubnyk.

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One would have to think Rask + the 23rd would be close to value for the 5th overall, if not more. Rask is one of the most promising young goalies out there, who's already a proven NHL starter, and Toronto needs a starter more then anything else.

Maybe Rask + 23rd + Khoklachev for #5 + Rynnas?

Leafs solve there Goaltending problems, and still have a late 1st to draft a decent Center Prospect, and pick up another Center prospect with decent potential in Khoklachev. While the Bruins get the #5 Pick(although I dont know why they want it, just making this in response to the OP's question) aswell as a possible(though unlikely) replacment for Rask.


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Why the hell would we move up in a weak draft?

We truly don't have any needs for next year, or for the future for the most part. Forward depth is great and all of our forwards are still young/in their primes, at least the ones for the future. We finally have a reliable PMD defensive prospect of #1 caliber in Dougie, and Rask is ready. Take the best player available and take it as a normal draft, or trade it in a package.

We're more likely to trade our pick than move up. I'd prefer to move down, to be honest. Look at all the 2nd round success we've had, Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Khoklachev, Marchand in the 3rd, etc. Compared to Seguin and Rask in the first, from the Leafs.

By the way, how many trade proposals have you made? Jesus.

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Maybe they can get Toronto's again?
We want Hamilton + Rask, the pick is not going to go unless a severe overpayment comes.

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We want Hamilton + Rask, the pick is not going to go unless a severe overpayment comes.
Little too late for those two

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