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05-25-2012, 08:29 PM
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It's going to amuse me when Schultz busts.
I'm %95 sure he won't and if he does the team will put him in the minors.

I haven't seen him play myself, but I've read my share of reports all signs point to top 4 QB defeceman.

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05-25-2012, 08:33 PM
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If he's UFA and wants to play in Vancouver, why trade anything for him?

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05-25-2012, 08:36 PM
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If he's UFA and wants to play in Vancouver, why trade anything for him?
Not sure he's said he wants to play for Vancouver. And actually I've heard his favorite city is Edmonton. But his parents are big Nuck fans so who knows.



I would try and trade for his rights to get a jump on him

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05-25-2012, 08:50 PM
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I think the point here is that people are comparing it to getting a Top 3 pick and Schultz really is not at that level. Lots of potential but there are still issues with his game and he will need to adapt to the NHL. I think the Canucks should pursue him but people are definitely overrating him because he happens to be from North Van.
I don't think it has anything to do with being from North Van...when people see guys like Dreger, McKenzie and Button (less so) saying he's a top notch, NHL ready player with PP QB potential there is going to be some excitement...the fact he is from North Van only builds hopes that the Canucks are a team he's interested in playing for.

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05-25-2012, 09:03 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with being from North Van...when people see guys like Dreger, McKenzie and Button (less so) saying he's a top notch, NHL ready player with PP QB potential there is going to be some excitement...the fact he is from North Van only builds hopes that the Canucks are a team he's interested in playing for.
What was the last college defensemen to immediately make the NHL and make a difference? I can't seem to recall one. Jack Johnson, who was probably the most hyped college defenseman in recent memory, in his first post-college season had 11 points and was -19.

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05-25-2012, 09:06 PM
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What was the last college defensemen to immediately make the NHL and make a difference? I can't seem to recall one. Jack Johnson, who was probably the most hyped college defenseman in recent memory, in his first post-college season had 11 points and was -19.
Jake Gardiner was from the same program, he only played 10 AHL games in the 2010-2011 season after his 2010-2011 college season was over. He contributed 30 points and a +/- rating of -2 on a terrible Leafs team in his rookie season in the NHL. And by all accounts (College coach); Schultz is supposed to be even better.


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05-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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What was the last college defensemen to immediately make the NHL and make a difference? I can't seem to recall one. Jack Johnson, who was probably the most hyped college defenseman in recent memory, in his first post-college season had 11 points and was -19.
No different than any highly sought after KHL player. It's still worth a gamble if he wants to sign here. I would pnt trade a 2nd though

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05-25-2012, 09:10 PM
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No different than any highly sought after KHL player. It's still worth a gamble if he wants to sign here. I would pnt trade a 2nd though
Definitely. I never disagreed with that. But some of the posters seem to be ready to declare our offseason a bust if we don't get him and compare him to a Top 3 pick.

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05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
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It would be an excellent addition to our defense/prospect core and I'm really hoping for it.

It frees up more flexibility to make a trade that may include Tanev or Edler etc but gives great depth and potential nonetheless. I wouldn't trade anything to the Ducks for his rights, if he wants to sign here he will (see Hamhuis)

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05-25-2012, 09:13 PM
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also Jason Garrison is a local guy on the UFA radar who has stated he'd like to play for the home team if they wanted him. (we do Jason) Big mobile young defender that can blast the puck. If Canucks can make a Schultz/Garrison free agent splash I for one will be quite wet.

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05-25-2012, 09:22 PM
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Not sure he's said he wants to play for Vancouver. And actually I've heard his favorite city is Edmonton. But his parents are big Nuck fans so who knows.



I would try and trade for his rights to get a jump on him
I find it unbelievable that anyone would say Edmonton is their favourite city.

Oilers fans seem to think they have some sort of inside track to sign this kid, because they're a bad team that will give him plenty of ice time that would speed his development. They're forgetting that the Oilers are not only a bad team, they're a bad organization with a long, glorious history of ruining their prospects.

If Schultz wants to be a quality NHL player he'll sign with a quality organization that will develop him properly. That is not Edmonton. He should come to Vancouver.

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05-25-2012, 09:46 PM
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I think the point here is that people are comparing it to getting a Top 3 pick and Schultz really is not at that level. Lots of potential but there are still issues with his game and he will need to adapt to the NHL. I think the Canucks should pursue him but people are definitely overrating him because he happens to be from North Van.
He's from Kelowna.

The hype is more about this being a blue chip prospect that can be signed for relatively cheap. He's not the second coming of Doughty but you can bet he is better than most of the Canucks' prospects at this moment.

Sadly, I believe Edmonton does have the inside track right now. If they trade for his rights it's game over. It's too bad the Canucks are against trading for UFA rights because that is probably the only way they will sign this player and they could use a prospect like him badly.

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Not sure he's said he wants to play for Vancouver. And actually I've heard his favorite city is Edmonton. But his parents are big Nuck fans so who knows.



I would try and trade for his rights to get a jump on him
His favorite team is Vancouver...

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He's from Kelowna.

The hype is more about this being a blue chip prospect that can be signed for relatively cheap. He's not the second coming of Doughty but you can bet he is better than most of the Canucks' prospects at this moment.

Sadly, I believe Edmonton does have the inside track right now. If they trade for his rights it's game over. It's too bad the Canucks are against trading for UFA rights because that is probably the only way they will sign this player and they could use a prospect like him badly.
The Canucks can talk to him starting June 1. Doesn't matter if the Oilers trade for him

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05-25-2012, 09:56 PM
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The hype is he's a blue chip prospect that can be signed cheap? the hype is he's a hometown guy?

This is Hockey's Future and you're one click away from seeing he's in the top 25 of all prospects list one spot behind Ryan Ellis. There's no prefab hype involved. He's a stud in the making. If you have a chance to sign him without giving anything up you do it at the drop of a hat.

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05-25-2012, 10:16 PM
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The Canucks can talk to him starting June 1. Doesn't matter if the Oilers trade for him
Actually, if Anaheim doesn't sign him within 30 days, any team can talk to him starting then (June 25). They just can't sign him until July 1. Those are the CBA rules.

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05-25-2012, 10:30 PM
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Not even close, Gilroy went undrafted and was a free agent not by choice. Schultz has been talked about as a great prospect the season after he was drafted, and Anahiem wants to sign him bad.

Gilroy best season was his fourth 8 G 29 A as a 24 year old

Schultz best season was his second 18 G 29 A as a 20 year old

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I all of a sudden don't him on my team anymore.

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It's going to amuse me when Schultz busts.
Lotto numbers please.

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is this a pat white situation? meaning that if schultz doesn't sign with anaheim and hits UFA that anaheim automatically gets a second rounder?

because if that's true, then any trade for schultz's rights starts with a second rounder (whoever trades for him will get that if they can't sign him) and would need to include another piece. i'm thinking the asking price would be a second rounder, a good but not great prospect or young top six/nine tweener (say, rodin/raymond), and then another pick if he signs (third under normal circumstances, but as high as a first if there's a bidding war).

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Do the Canucks really want a college dropout?

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is this a pat white situation? meaning that if schultz doesn't sign with anaheim and hits UFA that anaheim automatically gets a second rounder?

because if that's true, then any trade for schultz's rights starts with a second rounder (whoever trades for him will get that if they can't sign him) and would need to include another piece. i'm thinking the asking price would be a second rounder, a good but not great prospect or young top six/nine tweener (say, rodin/raymond), and then another pick if he signs (third under normal circumstances, but as high as a first if there's a bidding war).
No. Compensatory picks are only for first round picks that get a bona fide offer but do not sign before the team loses their rights.

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No. Compensatory picks are only for first round picks that get a bona fide offer but do not sign before the team loses their rights.
And the weird little no-offer-required exception for college players that White fell under, but it still requires that the guy be a first-rounder.

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