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05-25-2012, 08:21 PM
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what do you hate more

players diving or players holding the stick of other skaters?

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05-25-2012, 08:23 PM
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players diving or players holding the stick of other skaters?
Diving by a factor of 1000. Completely ruined soccer for me years ago. Made me really dislike my favorite team to the point where I don't care about them much anymore. Gutless, bogus etc.

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so whats the difference, divings are intended for ref to call trips, and holding the stick gets hooking and high sticks called

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Dives. Because it's easy for the ref to see someone holding a stick, and call a penalty. It's harder to call diving.

Holding the stick is a penalty, just like slashing, tripping, holding and cross-checking are.

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Diving by a wide margin. Why no poll here?

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if by "holding the stick", you mean, "trying to draw calls with a chicken wing", then i feel like the two options are the same.

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They're both terrible IMO...but definitely diving.

I hate when players grab the stick of the opposing player as soon as it is near their shoulders to get hooking calls. It's hard for the Ref to see if it really is hooking and usually the bad call is made.

This was a terrible call:



Kesler held on to Weber's stick under his shoulder.. drew a fake call in OT and scored the OT winner.

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They're both terrible IMO...but definitely diving.

I hate when players grab the stick of the opposing player as soon as it is near their shoulders to get hooking calls. It's hard for the Ref to see if it really is hooking and usually the bad call is made.

This was a terrible call:



Kesler held on to Weber's stick under his shoulder.. drew a fake call in OT and scored the OT winner.
this is exactly what i meant

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Dives. Because it's easy for the ref to see someone holding a stick, and call a penalty. It's harder to call diving.

Holding the stick is a penalty, just like slashing, tripping, holding and cross-checking are.
players get called for hooks all the time because their stick is being held

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Personally, both pale in comparison to the number of players that seem willing to absorb contact while spinning last minute, face first, towards the boards - drawing a penalty of course, likely an ejection - and deal with the physical consequences later.

But on topic, I'd have to say holding the stick. More specifically, the "chicken-winging" of a guy's stick under the arm/armpit, often drawing some kind of hooking call in the process on the player being unfairly neutralized. Happens waaaaay more often than "obvious"/egregious cases of diving, I think. I guess some cases might intersect both.

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One's a dick move, the other is embarrassing

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players get called for hooks all the time because their stick is being held
I understand now, I thought he ment holding the stick in their hand, not armpits.

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Holding the stick happens way too much

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