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05-28-2012, 03:08 PM
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Simple, 1 way one year deal for the QO. If he doesnt make the team, trade him.
Cheap and nothing to lose

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Simple, 1 way one year deal for the QO. If he doesnt make the team, trade him.
Cheap and nothing to lose
Works for me.

Or, just trade him now/at the draft. The Bourque trade the other day was an unsigned UFA for an unsigned RFA.

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05-28-2012, 03:19 PM
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Looking at his stats;

52 games
8 goals
18 assists
26 points
+/- + 3
10 penalty mins
1 power play goal
3 game winning goals

That's more than good enough for a new contract..

But if he's back next season, I have same advice for him;

* Get a new agent..

* Tell the Norwegian media to calm down and don't bother Torts after every game...

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05-28-2012, 03:39 PM
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Im not gonna lie, theres some part of me that wants to go and stuff like that, but at the same time, this is where I want to be, Zuccarello said. I want to be a New York Ranger This is where I want to be, dont get me wrong. But at the same time I have to think about myself and whats best for me I love everybody around here, but at the same time, I need to play. I cant play 10 games. Ten games thats not enough for me.
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05-28-2012, 03:46 PM
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interesting. he's probably right. i think he can be a player in the nhl. i'm curious to see how the rangers react to this. he's kind of throwing down the gauntlet. i hope the rangers don't get all sensitive. give the guy a chance. i do agree with the gentleman who said this guy needs to dump his agent and bar the norway media. these two factors - along with injuries - have really done a number of zuccarello.

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05-28-2012, 05:48 PM
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i'm curious to see how the rangers react to this.
As am I. I could see them losing interest a bit due to these last comments and the push for a one way contract through the media like this.

Agreed he should lose his agent if it was his idea.
Not much he can do about the media though. If he asks them to back off, they'll probably just keep being sent there, but be less positive about him when they write about him. He's not their boss, not much he can do, really.

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05-28-2012, 06:09 PM
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Looking at his stats;

52 games
8 goals
18 assists
26 points
+/- + 3
10 penalty mins
1 power play goal
3 game winning goals

That's more than good enough for a new contract..

But if he's back next season, I have same advice for him;

* Get a new agent..

* Tell the Norwegian media to calm down and don't bother Torts after every game...
We need the media. Norwegian hockey depends on zuke doing well in NA and the national team. And i mean Torts isnt rly mad at norwegian journalists. He says all the time that: "that was a stupid question" No big deal. Hopefully zuke will go to a club like cbj, oilers, leafs etc or maybe the KHL (and hey MM isnt a bad club. Nice arena and a strong roster). He dosent have a future for the rangers. He dosent fit in. He should not waste his best years as a player!

But hey i understand norwegian rangers fans. U guys want ur "hero" to stay in NYR.

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05-28-2012, 06:10 PM
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He's not going anywhere. Rangerboy is just taking quotes out of context.

If you would read between the lines he is just saying if he isn't offered a contract then he is leaving to play somewhere else.

Rangers found out how important it is to have depth this season when forwards were getting hurt in the playoffs. He will be offered a 1 year contract in the next week or so.

Rangers need skill like Zuke, and not players who can't put a puck in he next, Mitchell. They have a great defense and top goalie to worry about the defensive end.

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05-28-2012, 06:50 PM
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zucc for nash str8 up

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05-28-2012, 07:05 PM
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Zucca didnt waste a year in AHL, he wasnt good enough for NHL and was sent down to develop. He did, we all saw that and next season I`m sure NYR will benefit from it.

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05-28-2012, 09:58 PM
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Zucca didnt waste a year in AHL, he wasnt good enough for NHL and was sent down to develop. He did, we all saw that and next season I`m sure NYR will benefit from it.
i disagree. he was easily good enough his first season for this team we just didn't want to make room to put him into a top 6 role. he would've fit on many teams in the league. he developed exponentially in that one year, but he was never bad.

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05-28-2012, 11:10 PM
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Don't see where he fits in anymore with the emergence of Kreider.

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05-29-2012, 12:07 AM
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The situation with MZA is very similar to the Matt Gilroy situation last year. Both finished 2 year contracts for good money, but did not play up to expectations and/or fit the Torts system. The QO would have to be for at least a slight raise, and no NHL team would be willing to pay MZA that much based on his performance this past season. Teams would definitely be willing to sign him, but not for as much as the QO. The Rangers did not offer Gilroy the QO, and he wound up signing elsewhere for less, but he did get to continue his NHL career.

The Rangers probably don't want to pay Zuccs the QO, with cap space being tight. If they did, he'd likely be untradable, unless he first got the opportunity next season to demonstrate he could be more productive in the NHL, which is unlikely under Torts. If the Rangers don't make the QO, then Zuccs becomes an UFA. Why then would he return to the Rangers, where he knows the coach is not fond of his style?

Thus I don't see him returning. It's a shame to lose him for nothing, but that's the nature of free agency. The Rangers will use that money elsewhere. Maybe a Jesper Fasth, Christian Thomas or Jon Audy-Marchessault could take his place next season.

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05-29-2012, 02:49 AM
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Big interview with norwegian media today. He is not happy with the way he has been treated by the Rangers. He is clearly frustrated... I dont think Ive heard him so direct and honest before, but I guess he feels he has nothing to lose now...

Question is: Are the Rangers ok with him saying "They have not treated me very good....."

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If the club is sensitive about stuff like this, his days in the Ranges are definetely over....

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05-29-2012, 02:59 AM
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Pretty strong words, could Get heat for it..

On my way to a meeting, main points are;

He doesn't feel like torts trusts him that much...

Feel's the ppv was pisspoor at times and when he returned they scored 3 pp goals but that was that

He had a backup deal with the khl team if he leaves NHL,but aim's for a NYR return if they want him at the right terms..

He just wants to play hockey..

- to me he sounds bitter and heartbroken over the last year..

If I missed anything, I'll doublecheck after my meeting


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05-29-2012, 03:17 AM
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Give him the one way contract, and see if he can earn it in camp. If he doesn't make the team is he eligible for waivers? Or just trade him. If you can find a trade for EC, you can find a trade for Zuke.

Also, it's not like Torts took him out of lineup, he got hurt. Really can't disagree with Torts not wanting to take someone out of the lineup when they are in game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals. Could he have helped earlier in the year, probably, but whats done is done.

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Big interview with norwegian media today. He is not happy with the way he has been treated by the Rangers. He is clearly frustrated... I dont think Ive heard him so direct and honest before, but I guess he feels he has nothing to lose now...

Question is: Are the Rangers ok with him saying "They have not treated me very good....."

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If the club is sensitive about stuff like this, his days in the Ranges are definetely over....



I understand him fully. He is a muche better hockeyplayer than Hagelin, Anisimov, Boyle, Kreider, Dubinsky, Mitchell and still he just did not get many chances. Go to KHL Zucca, NHL is not that great anymore. We would love to see you in the World Championship again.

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Don't see where he fits in anymore with the emergence of Kreider.
Third line right wing.

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I understand him fully. He is a muche better hockeyplayer than Hagelin, Anisimov, Boyle, Kreider, Dubinsky, Mitchell and still he just did not get many chances. Go to KHL Zucca, NHL is not that great anymore. We would love to see you in the World Championship again.
He is now? Wonder why its so hard for him to crack the lineup then.....

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After reading the Norwegian paper interview (not the google translate version) I think it is pretty clear Zuccarellos days as a Ranger are now definitely over. First, glen does not enjoy negative babbling like this from discontent players in the media and secondly he is basically calling Torts out here. Which he might be right in doing due to the facts emotionally, but come on, does he not understand how Tortorella and NA hockey works? Stupid move. The Rangers said back in March they were interested in signing him again, he should have taken that hint.
Now he will be in Russia (or Sweden where there is huge interest as well) which will give him more $$ for sure in the short term, but his NHL dream is done. Rangers will most likely retain his rights with an offer meant to blocking him to sign elsewhere and off to Europe he goes.
Pretty sad as I think he could have contributed in areas where we had serious defficiencies on this NYR team, but the cards were not right. His agent was an idiot, torts did not give him a fair chance as a PP specialist which we could have used, he grew impatient, got injured a bit too often ( but breaking his wrist by blocking a shot has nothing to do with his style of play or softness - just very bad luck), and had some mood sWings that probably raised an eyebrow or two. He was not able to withstand the hype brought about him in the Norwegian media either, which irritated some people too. This was the final drop, I am almost 100% sure...

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First, glen does not enjoy negative babbling like this from discontent players in the media and secondly he is basically calling Torts out here. Which he might be right in doing due to the facts emotionally, but come on, does he not understand how Tortorella and NA hockey works? Stupid move. The Rangers said back in March they were interested in signing him again, he should have taken that hint.
I dont agree, with you. He, as human being, has right to say (to media or so) whatever he wants. He can criticize GM or coach, it is his right to do it. Nobody can stop him!!! Thats human right. If NHL clubs dont respect it, it is their problem. Nobody should suffer if saying what he thinks. That is against human rights!

Good luck to him in KHL

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I dont agree, with you. He, as human being, has right to say (to media or so) whatever he wants. He can criticize GM or coach, it is his right to do it. Nobody can stop him!!! Thats human right. If NHL clubs dont respect it, it is their problem. Nobody should suffer if saying what he thinks. That is against human rights!

Good luck to him in KHL
Ever heard of the saying "dead right"? You are at a traffic light, you get green and see a car coming at a hundred miles an hour at the intersection and you move on ahead in the sight of the approaching car thinking "I am in the right here, the light is green". Bam, you're dead. And most certainly right.
He might be right and have a right to say or express whatever he would like to, butthen do not act be to surprised of the consequences that you know are stacked up against as a reality. It is a tough place being involved in professional sports, a business and not a game for the faint-hearted. Unfair & unjust? Most certainly. It is a cruel world out there though.... That is all I am saying. In a perfect world your argument holds validity, but that world Is far from the one we both spend our days and nights...
I can see we have been on opposite sides of the negotiating table in life too, but do not think I always enjoy or warrant being here...


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I see you. Good luck him in Magnitogorsk.

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He has every right to state his mind. And the coach and GM have every right not to play someone they feel don't live up to their standards.

He's basically stating:

"They sucked and then I came in and made it better"

"I's not Slats' fault. It's the coach."

"I did nothing to earn his distrust and still he doesn't trust me"

If I'm the coach or GM I can accept a certain amount of criticism, even in the media, but this is over the top. Most likely he's done as a Ranger. Shame.

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I don't see how it's a shame it would be over for him in Rangers now...he had no role there anyway. Good luck on another team Mats!

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