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Pre-Draft Top 15 Prospects [#5]

View Poll Results: #5 Avalanche Prospect
Cameron Gaunce, D, Lake Erie Monsters (#50-2008) 21 37.50%
Michael Sgarbossa, C, Sudbury Wolves (Trade 2012) 21 37.50%
Mark Olver, C, Lake Erie Monsters, (#140-2008) 1 1.79%
Calvin Pickard, G, Seattle Thunderbirds (#49-2010) 5 8.93%
Sami Aittokallio, G, Ilves Tampere (#107-2010) 7 12.50%
Kieran Millan, G, Boston University (#124-2009) 0 0%
Kent Patterson, G, University of Minnesota (#113-2007) 0 0%
Mike Connolly, C, Lake Erie Monsters (Trade 2012) 0 0%
Joachim Nermark, LW, Linköpings HC (#93-2011) 0 0%
Brad Malone, LW, Lake Erie Monsters (#105-2007) 1 1.79%
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05-26-2012, 11:47 AM
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Pre-Draft Top 15 Prospects [#5]

I am going to clarify here-on-out that the intention of the poll is to determine WHO WILL HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT IN THE NHL.

Winner of Last One:


1. Stefan Elliott, D, Lake Erie Monsters 47.83%
2. Duncan Siemens, D, Saskatoon Blades 41.18%
3. Joey Hishon, C, Lake Erie Monsters 53.85%
4. Tyson Barrie, D, Lake Erie Monsters 65.96

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Very tough one for me... I'm caught between Sgarbossa and Gaunce... I like both A LOT and they are such different players..

I just think Sgarbossa will have a higher ceiling.

And now that we're past the "Big 4" things will get more interesting

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Gaunce for me.

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Gaunce again, Sgarbossa is a boom or bust prospect... little middle ground in my opinion. Gaunce should stick at the very least as a bottom 6 guy.

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Gaunce again, Sgarbossa is a boom or bust prospect... little middle ground in my opinion. Gaunce should stick at the very least as a bottom 6 guy.

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Gaunce is a defender... There is no "bottom 6" in the defensive corps...

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Gaunce is a defender... There is no "bottom 6" in the defensive corps...

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Meant bottom pairing, thought 6 defenders, you do the math.

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I went with Gaunce over Sgarbossa as I think Gaunce turns out to be a very solid top 4 defenseman whereas I feel Sgarbossa will be more of a second/third line pest. (not dissimilar to Gali) And I would value the top 4 defenceman higher

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Even if they both boom, I don't think Sgarbossa will be a better forward than Gaunce a defencemen. Gaunce has a really strong defensive game, chippiness that our blueline lacks, a crisp pass and shot, and his skating has improved drastically. I really think Gaunce makes it as a second pairing guy at the very least, and could one day become a great partner for EJ.

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RE: Sgarbossa - Every time I start getting excited about kids who produce massively at junior levels, I remember Philipe Dupuis, who scored 108 points, in 56 games for the Wildcats in the QMJHL in 2006.

The kid got 0 points in 30 games for The Leafs this past season. He got 17 points, in 82 games for Colorado.

Just doesn't translate - not right away at any rate.

The closest player to transition well in my opinion from Juniors to The Big Time, was Shattenkirk. In fact, Kevin even struggled at Monster level. But as soon as he hit the big time - BOOM !

Maybe that's because he plied his trade for years before being thrust into an adult league.

I really get worried about kids like Hishon facing monsters like Chara and Phaneuf, especially when Hishon consistently got beaten up by the bigger boys at junior level. Unless you have Kane like skills, your going to be hard pressed as a shrimp at the big time. There are plenty Joey Hishon's for one Marty St Louis.

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RE: Sgarbossa - Every time I start getting excited about kids who produce massively at junior levels, I remember Philipe Dupuis, who scored 108 points, in 56 games for the Wildcats in the QMJHL in 2006.

The kid got 0 points in 30 games for The Leafs this past season. He got 17 points, in 82 games for Colorado.

Just doesn't translate - not right away at any rate.

The closest player to transition well in my opinion from Juniors to The Big Time, was Shattenkirk. In fact, Kevin even struggled at Monster level. But as soon as he hit the big time - BOOM !

Maybe that's because he plied his trade for years before being thrust into an adult league.

I really get worried about kids like Hishon facing monsters like Chara and Phaneuf, especially when Hishon consistently got beaten up by the bigger boys at junior level. Unless you have Kane like skills, your going to be hard pressed as a shrimp at the big time. There are plenty Joey Hishon's for one Marty St Louis.
To be fair, the whole league was inflated that year. Not to mention Sgarbossa isn't that old (18/19)

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To be fair, the whole league was inflated that year. Not to mention Sgarbossa isn't that old (18/19)
Yeah when the league's top scorer has 102 points and has 11 more points than the #3 guy you know that it's a legitimate judgement of his abilities.

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RE: Sgarbossa - Every time I start getting excited about kids who produce massively at junior levels, I remember Philipe Dupuis, who scored 108 points, in 56 games for the Wildcats in the QMJHL in 2006.

The kid got 0 points in 30 games for The Leafs this past season. He got 17 points, in 82 games for Colorado.

Just doesn't translate - not right away at any rate.

The closest player to transition well in my opinion from Juniors to The Big Time, was Shattenkirk. In fact, Kevin even struggled at Monster level. But as soon as he hit the big time - BOOM !

Maybe that's because he plied his trade for years before being thrust into an adult league.

I really get worried about kids like Hishon facing monsters like Chara and Phaneuf, especially when Hishon consistently got beaten up by the bigger boys at junior level. Unless you have Kane like skills, your going to be hard pressed as a shrimp at the big time. There are plenty Joey Hishon's for one Marty St Louis.

Gionta, Ennis, Gerbe and Hudler all don't match Kane in skill yet all are solid to very good NHL'ers. I could go on but I hope I don't need to.

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Need a few more votes to move on.

We should consider holding a vote to see what kind of rating we'd apply to these guys, get a forum prospect grade and compare it to the "real" one.

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Tough one for me, but I'm going to go with my gut and say Gaunce.
As much as I love Sgarby, I like Gaunce's game.

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Voted Sgarbossa

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I think Sgarbossa has a higher upside than Gaunce, and will make a slightly bigger impact in the NHL. It will be close though.

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Need a few more votes to move on.

We should consider holding a vote to see what kind of rating we'd apply to these guys, get a forum prospect grade and compare it to the "real" one.
I like this idea

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i'm surprised to see Elliott at the top of this list. I know that his game will take more time to develop at the pro level, but I have personally liked more from what I have seen from Barrie - especially when talking about their longevity and impact at the NHL level. Maybe it's just me but while I buy that Elliott has the higher ceiling, Barrie would be the safer bet.

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