Enter Saskatoon or Regina. I think we would be much better off with our farm team in Saskatchewan. There was an article not long ago talking about the prospects of the NHL going to Saskatoon. I think they could try the AHL first.
I believe when the Oilers were trying to secure a WHL franchise, they offered the Roadrunners to Saskatoon in exchange for the Blades, but I guess the ownership group didn't go for it.
Seems like quite a few people feel that Edmonton has a shot at this guy because of the potential of the team and the fact he'll probably make the team right of camp and play a lot of minutes right away. If the Oilers feel like they have a strong chance at this guy, they will pick Yakupov at #1.
They probably will regardless, but I can't see them picking Murray if they know they have a solid shot at Schultz.
He was accused of tampering by Vancouver when he mentioned a trade rumour between Vancouver and another club during the Behind the Scenes draft program. The league never ruled that to be tampering and there was no punishment.
Burke wasn't even in Toronto when the Frogren signing occurred.
You're right. He joined the Leafs later that year, and lost the pick.
But he has been warned about this kind of thing more than once, mostly by not shutting his mouth in public.
Why wouldn't Schultz want to play with the Oilers.
Top-3 offensive talent in the NHL.
And it would be his job to lose as top Oilers defenseman.
And you can't turn down the chance of a Schultz-Schultz combo!!
But I still think the Oilers should try to pull off the following trade:
Yakupov + Whitney
FOR
(signed) Suter + (signed) Weber
Then they would be set!!!
Hall - RNH - Eberle
Harti - Gagner - Hemsky
Paajarvi - Horcoff - Jones
Eager - Belanger - Pitlick
Weber - Suter
Smid - Petry
Sutton - Schultz
Potter
Trade scenarios like that look really good on your head but would never happen. Edmonton would have to give up one of the big 3 to even get a sniff at those 2. I also dont think it would be a good move contract wise with Suter probably demanding around 4-6 mil per and Weber looking at 5-7 mil. I would be just as happy if we could trade some spare forwards for Schenn, draft Yakupov and then go hard after Schultz
Trade scenarios like that look really good on your head but would never happen. Edmonton would have to give up one of the big 3 to even get a sniff at those 2. I also dont think it would be a good move contract wise with Suter probably demanding around 4-6 mil per and Weber looking at 5-7 mil. I would be just as happy if we could trade some spare forwards for Schenn, draft Yakupov and then go hard after Schultz
Which part of Yakupov did you not understand?
Nashville is losing Suter, so why not attempt to trade him, for anything you can get. These types of FA get traded for a 3rd or 4th rd pick...
So basically, Nashville is getting Yakupov and Whitney, for Weber. They would do it in a heartbeat. The tough part would be signing those two. Do they want to play here?
Nashville is losing Suter, so why not attempt to trade him, for anything you can get. These types of FA get traded for a 3rd or 4th rd pick...
So basically, Nashville is getting Yakupov and Whitney, for Weber. They would do it in a heartbeat. The tough part would be signing those two. Do they want to play here?
You do not trade the 1st over all in hoping that you can sign the player you are going after. Suter says no and Weber plays for one year then what do we have to show for the 1st over all nothing, that is just terrible.
As for schultz only he knows and we will have to wait until closer to the end of June to know more. Would love to add Schultz and Yak to start next season. Trade for Quincey and Stewart, then move Hall to centre.
Stewart, RNH, Eberle
Hemsky, Hall, Yak
Schultz, Shutlz
Smid, Petry
Whitney, Quincey
We finally have depth and legit NHL dmen in our 6 dmen.
Someone posted the other day that he/she believes if the Oilers do not win the Schultz sweepstakes, they will draft Murray first overall. If they do get Schultz, then they'd be obviously taking Yakupov. I am definitley of the same belief, who the Oilers draft all depends on the Schultz situation. I just don't know if the golden goose that the Hockey Gods has bestowed upon this organization this past couple of months has that many eggs left (I mean getting Schultz and drafting Yakupov, which is what I am in favor for).
Someone posted the other day that he/she believes if the Oilers do not win the Schultz sweepstakes, they will draft Murray first overall. If they do get Schultz, then they'd be obviously taking Yakupov. I am definitley of the same belief, who the Oilers draft all depends on the Schultz situation. I just don't know if the golden goose that the Hockey Gods has bestowed upon this organization this past couple of months has that many eggs left (I mean getting Schultz and drafting Yakupov, which is what I am in favor for).
This organizations deserves nothing but failure for the next 10 years if this is the logic used by the front office.
If they make their pick based on this situation and don't take Yakupov, I hope he goes somewhere else and scores 50+ a season for a few years.
Someone posted the other day that he/she believes if the Oilers do not win the Schultz sweepstakes, they will draft Murray first overall. If they do get Schultz, then they'd be obviously taking Yakupov. I am definitley of the same belief, who the Oilers draft all depends on the Schultz situation. I just don't know if the golden goose that the Hockey Gods has bestowed upon this organization this past couple of months has that many eggs left (I mean getting Schultz and drafting Yakupov, which is what I am in favor for).
Pretty sure Shultz can't be signed until July 1st, which will be a week or 2 after the draft.
Can't draft Murray based on something that hasn't happened yet.
This sounds a lot like Hossa, Heatley, Jagr to Edmonton rumours.
I will be shocked if Schultz signs with the Oilers. Happy and shocked.
Just don't think it will happen. Remember who the GM is?
If Tambellini wants to be employed, he'll make a pitch for Schultz. If we don't sign Schultz, it will only be because Schultz doesn't want to be apart of the Oilers.
Pretty sure Shultz can't be signed until July 1st, which will be a week or 2 after the draft.
Can't draft Murray based on something that hasn't happened yet.
I thought one of the main points of the conversation is if Anaheim has zero chance of signing him in their 30 day window and he has told them he will not play there, they could trade his rights to one of the teams he is willing to sign with so they don't lose him for nothing, which is what I was alluding to...or am I misinterpreting something?
If Tambellini wants to be employed, he'll make a pitch for Schultz. If we don't sign Schultz, it will only be because Schultz doesn't want to be apart of the Oilers.
I've got a bet that the Oilers will deal their 1st pick but as much as I think the Oilers management is shall we say "simplistic"... I don't think they are quite stupid enough to use the #1 to draft Murray over Yakupov... we'll see though in less than a month's time just how deep "the stupid" runs in the veins of the dopey and dumpy duo of Lowe/Tambo.
I thought one of the main points of the conversation is if Anaheim has zero chance of signing him in their 30 day window and he has told them he will not play there, they could trade his rights to one of the teams he is willing to sign with so they don't lose him for nothing, which is what I was alluding to...or am I misinterpreting something?
The speculation is that he has already decided where he wants to play (based on the the Ana tampering comments). Teams will be less likely to trade for his rights if he has decided on which team he wants to go to.
He wil be able to sign anywhere when Free Agency opens July 1st.
So yeah, the Oilers can't potentially sign him as a UFA until after the draft.
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Originally Posted by Fuhryous
I thought one of the main points of the conversation is if Anaheim has zero chance of signing him in their 30 day window and he has told them he will not play there, they could trade his rights to one of the teams he is willing to sign with so they don't lose him for nothing, which is what I was alluding to...or am I misinterpreting something?
Outside of the speculation about Shultz already deciding which team he is going to, which impedes any chance of any trade for his rights(as Usual_Suspect just posted). You'd have to ignore the fact that Tambinelli is probably the least pro-active GM in the NHL to entertain the idea that the Oilers would give up assets for a soon-to-be UFA.
The Oilers simply aren't run by a Paul Holmgren type GM, exceptionally small chance it would ever happen.
I've got a bet that the Oilers will deal their 1st pick but as much as I think the Oilers management is shall we say "simplistic"... I don't think they are quite stupid enough to use the #1 to draft Murray over Yakupov... we'll see though in less than a month's time just how deep "the stupid" runs in the veins of the dopey and dumpy duo of Lowe/Tambo.
