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06-10-2012, 12:57 AM
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It happens ALL the time. Teams don't sign every draft pick.

Nobody, absolutely nobody is saying they don't feel bad for the Ducks or that they don't want the loophole closed.

But it's there and he is well within his rights.

People crying about it need to think about what they would do in the same situation....

And these same folks on their high horses have nothing wrong with Murray's "he thinks he is too good for us" crap....mike gillis was vilified on this forum when he said less about Hodgson.

Funny stuff this Internet, where everyone is an honorable human being and 22 year old free agents are scum. Haha.
Schultz said he was looking forward to playing for this team when his season was over. That makes him a liar. He isn't giving the Ducks a reason why isn't going to sign. That makes him a coward.

Yes he is well within his rights to sign wherever he wants but he is also damaging this team and going back on his word. He would get as much money and ice time with the Ducks as with any other team. He'd get to play on a team with a lot of young talent and great potential. He'd live in a wonderful part of the world. He obviously has his reasons for ignoring all that and the honorable thing to do would be to man up and tell Murray. This kid is a punk. Plain and simple.

This situation sucks for the Ducks and our fanbase. We had such high hopes for this kid and traded away a trade prospect in favor of him. We had a spot waiting for him in March and he spat in our faces. The hell with this kid. I want players who want to be here and are proud to wear that jersey.

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06-10-2012, 01:00 AM
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There's been a million threads on this board, plenty know who he is. Especially since Bobby Mac said he's the #3 FA this year, which is absolutely ridiculous.
What percentage of hockey fans actually read this board? Guys are figuring out who Shultz is based only on Bob Mackenzie mentioning him.

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06-10-2012, 07:34 AM
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There's been a million threads on this board, plenty know who he is. Especially since Bobby Mac said he's the #3 FA this year, which is absolutely ridiculous.
How is naming Shultz the #3 UFA ridiculous? He's 21, will be very cheap to sign, and is a top prospect.

There were 15+ teams lining-up to sign Bozak out of college.

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06-10-2012, 07:42 AM
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Schultz said he was looking forward to playing for this team when his season was over. That makes him a liar. He isn't giving the Ducks a reason why isn't going to sign. That makes him a coward.

Yes he is well within his rights to sign wherever he wants but he is also damaging this team and going back on his word. He would get as much money and ice time with the Ducks as with any other team. He'd get to play on a team with a lot of young talent and great potential. He'd live in a wonderful part of the world. He obviously has his reasons for ignoring all that and the honorable thing to do would be to man up and tell Murray. This kid is a punk. Plain and simple.

This situation sucks for the Ducks and our fanbase. We had such high hopes for this kid and traded away a trade prospect in favor of him. We had a spot waiting for him in March and he spat in our faces. The hell with this kid. I want players who want to be here and are proud to wear that jersey.
You mad bro?

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06-10-2012, 08:47 AM
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You mad bro?
It is quite understandable, no?

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06-10-2012, 08:58 AM
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Schultz said he was looking forward to playing for this team when his season was over. That makes him a liar. He isn't giving the Ducks a reason why isn't going to sign. That makes him a coward.
Just because he hasn't made it public doesn't mean he hasn't told Murray why he hasn't signed (he wants to explore all options). There is absolutely no reason for him to make this public and create drama.

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06-10-2012, 11:26 AM
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Just because he hasn't made it public doesn't mean he hasn't told Murray why he hasn't signed (he wants to explore all options). There is absolutely no reason for him to make this public and create drama.
Yes, because staying silent had created no drama? Also, Murray has stated that there has been no explanation from the Schultz camp.

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06-10-2012, 11:59 AM
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Yes, because staying silent had created no drama? Also, Murray has stated that there has been no explanation from the Schultz camp.
He doesn't owe anybody an explanation. What good would it do, anyway?

"I chose to play for another team because Anaheim doesn't look very good."

Is that what you want?

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06-10-2012, 12:24 PM
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When you are talking about Ducks prospects that have yet to sign, you have to assume that they are not going to sign. No fans, no money and no fun. Ducks fans are upset at Schultz, because Murray didn't do his due diligence? ... please, just please take off the homer glasses for one second and think. Too hard, never mind.

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06-10-2012, 12:26 PM
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Ducks fans are upset at Schultz, because Murray didn't do his due diligence? ... please, just please take off the homer glasses for one second and think.
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06-10-2012, 12:30 PM
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Yes, because staying silent had created no drama? Also, Murray has stated that there has been no explanation from the Schultz camp.
There would be a hell of a lot more drama if he posted something on facebook like Tim Thomas. Murray saying there's no explanation is just him trying to save face for losing two top prospects.

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06-10-2012, 12:33 PM
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Murray saying there's no explanation is just him trying to save face for losing two top prospects.
Murray didn't "lose" two top prospects, and he's not at risk of losing face over it. One was traded for a player performing very well since being traded for and is now re-signed. The other chooses to just not sign. That's one case that could be considered losing a top prospect, but it's not exactly rational to blame Murray for that behaviour.

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06-10-2012, 12:36 PM
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06-10-2012, 12:39 PM
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Well, I thought it was being rather clear, but I was asking for a source that would even remotely indicate that Schultz' decision is based on Murray failing to do his "due diligence".

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06-10-2012, 12:42 PM
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Well, I thought it was being rather clear, but I was asking for a source that would even remotely indicate that Schultz' decision is based on Murray failing to do his "due diligence".
I never said that Schultz' decision is based on Murray failing to do his due diligence. I said that Ducks fans should be upset at Murray rather than Schultz as Murray failed to do his due diligence.

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06-10-2012, 12:45 PM
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I never said that Schultz' decision is based on Murray failing to do his due diligence. I said that Ducks fans should be upset at Murray rather than Schultz as Murray failed to do his due diligence.
And where is the source for that claim?

The anger at Schultz is a lot more reasonable some of the anger directed at Murray is.

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06-10-2012, 12:49 PM
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And where is the source for that claim?

The anger at Schultz is a lot more reasonable some of the anger directed at Murray is.
If Murray had done his due diligence this thread wouldn't exist. I am done with this thread ducks fans are ridiculous, since you wanted a link so badly here:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=434
Read the last two sentences again it will help tremendously.

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06-10-2012, 12:52 PM
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If Murray had done his due diligence this thread wouldn't exist.
You are not being rational, and far from helpful, for others and yourself. Murray can't make a kid sign a contract, if he's for some reason set on not doing so. It doesn't have to do anything with what Murray has or has not done. To just blindly and baselessly assume that, is well, ridiculous, in your words.

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06-10-2012, 01:21 PM
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You are not being rational, and far from helpful, for others and yourself. Murray can't make a kid sign a contract, if he's for some reason set on not doing so. It doesn't have to do anything with what Murray has or has not done. To just blindly and baselessly assume that, is well, ridiculous, in your words.
All he is saying is that the GM did not ensure that the prospect they drafted is someone who is happy and willing to be in the organization. He makes plenty of sense.

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06-10-2012, 01:24 PM
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All he is saying is that the GM did not ensure that the prospect they drafted is someone who is happy and willing to be in the organization.
And that is not a reasonable expectation for a GM, at all. Schultz was on the record being nothing but happy with the organisation until this college season ended. You can't ensure that every prospect you pick (and that proves to be a tremendous pick) will sign with you. It's not in your hands, to a degree, as these situations illustrate all too well.

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06-10-2012, 01:28 PM
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All he is saying is that the GM did not ensure that the prospect they drafted is someone who is happy and willing to be in the organization. He makes plenty of sense.
I don't think there is a GM in the history of the league that could make that kind of guarantee.

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06-10-2012, 01:32 PM
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If Murray had done his due diligence this thread wouldn't exist. I am done with this thread ducks fans are ridiculous, since you wanted a link so badly here:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=434
Read the last two sentences again it will help tremendously.
He asks for a link and you link it to yourself posting on an online message boards, clearly thats what he wanted.

Schultz said repeatedly that he wanted to sign in Anaheim, said it to the press, said it to Murray. And now he thinks hes too good for the organization. What did you want Murray to do, please enlighten me?

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06-10-2012, 01:35 PM
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Want him to sign with the Leafs, Oilers or Rangers just to see the butthurt.

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06-10-2012, 01:40 PM
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If Murray had done his due diligence this thread wouldn't exist. I am done with this thread ducks fans are ridiculous, since you wanted a link so badly here:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=434
Read the last two sentences again it will help tremendously.
Lol ignorant much?

Guy said he wanted 2 play for Ducks several times and he wanted to play for us and never showed any indication of otherwise. He can't be signed until he leaves college. I hate Murray more then any duck fan but this is not on him.

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Want him to sign with the Leafs, Oilers or Rangers just to see the butthurt.
You're not doing it right - if you were any good at it you would have said the Kings.


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