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06-04-2012, 02:54 PM
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06-04-2012, 03:12 PM
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06-04-2012, 10:24 PM
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06-04-2012, 10:49 PM
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06-04-2012, 11:00 PM
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[QUOTE=Al Lagoon;50530397](-)Kyle Brodziak - 3
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06-04-2012, 11:25 PM
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You added one to everyone. You cant just add one to everyone!

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06-05-2012, 01:10 AM
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I believe I fixed the error from above. I restored everyone to what they were before the mistake and then added and subtracted appropriately (since he had 4 +'s and 4 -'s, it just wasn't executed correctly). I then took that and added and subtracted my own submissions. Hope I did it right.


(-)Kyle Brodziak - 0
(-)Dany Heatley - 40
(+)Mikko Koivu - 39
(+)Guillame Latendresse - 32
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Sorry to see Brodziak go, but it needed to be done.

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06-05-2012, 04:43 AM
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Can't believe Scandella has outlasted every d-man other than Gilbert. Scandella hasn't done a damn thing yet except look terrible at times.

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06-05-2012, 08:03 AM
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06-05-2012, 08:06 AM
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Can't believe Scandella has outlasted every d-man other than Gilbert. Scandella hasn't done a damn thing yet except look terrible at times.
And depending on who you talk to neither has Gilbert.

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06-05-2012, 08:19 AM
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And depending on who you talk to neither has Gilbert.
This. I don't get the man crush on him.

Y U NO VOTE FOR SPURGEON?!!!

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06-05-2012, 09:49 AM
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06-05-2012, 10:16 AM
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06-05-2012, 01:55 PM
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And depending on who you talk to neither has Gilbert.
Gilbert has proven he can put up solid offensive numbers in the NHL. He was solid defensively for us during the majority of the games since we acquired him, and was easily our best d-man the last couple weeks of the season. I'll take Gilbert, Spurgeon, and even Stoner over Scandella. Let's see if Scandella can actually improve because most people here seem to think he's a future top 4 d-man.

Not to mention, Gilbert has been kickass for me in every single Be a GM mode I have done in NHL 12.

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06-06-2012, 12:54 AM
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06-06-2012, 06:27 PM
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06-06-2012, 10:34 PM
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So we don't love Clutter anymore? How does Kassian last longer than him? hahahaha

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06-06-2012, 10:41 PM
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06-06-2012, 10:45 PM
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So we don't love Clutter anymore? How does Kassian last longer than him? hahahaha
It doesn't make sense. Kinda like how Lats has practically been gone for two years and is still in the running.

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06-06-2012, 11:05 PM
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06-06-2012, 11:32 PM
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Gilbert has proven he can put up solid offensive numbers in the NHL. He was solid defensively for us during the majority of the games since we acquired him, and was easily our best d-man the last couple weeks of the season. I'll take Gilbert, Spurgeon, and even Stoner over Scandella. Let's see if Scandella can actually improve because most people here seem to think he's a future top 4 d-man.

Not to mention, Gilbert has been kickass for me in every single Be a GM mode I have done in NHL 12.
I can see someone arguing for taking Spurgeon over Scandella (though I'd probably disagree) but Stoner? Are you taking his name as a mantra or something? Scandella was by far our best defenseman to start the season. Until he got injured and had a very slow return, he was without question the best defenseman we iced. Even as someone who steadfastly wanted him in Houston last year, I couldn't complain about them keeping him up.

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06-07-2012, 01:05 AM
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06-07-2012, 01:45 AM
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I can see someone arguing for taking Spurgeon over Scandella (though I'd probably disagree) but Stoner? Are you taking his name as a mantra or something? Scandella was by far our best defenseman to start the season. Until he got injured and had a very slow return, he was without question the best defenseman we iced. Even as someone who steadfastly wanted him in Houston last year, I couldn't complain about them keeping him up.
Their +/- rating says otherwise.

I'm not saying Scandella is a bust or anything, I'm simply stating that he needs to improve his overall game if he wants to stick around.

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06-07-2012, 11:51 AM
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Their +/- rating says otherwise.

I'm not saying Scandella is a bust or anything, I'm simply stating that he needs to improve his overall game if he wants to stick around.
+/- is one of the least useful stats in the game, that's doubly true in the context of the post you quoted. Scandella never came back right from injury. Scandella faced the hardest competition of any defenseman on the team (minimum 20 games played) while only Kampfer and Foster faced easier competition than Stoner. (Spurgeon ranked 3rd and Gilbert 2nd).

Scandella does need to improve, but he's already a significantly better player than Stoner. Stoner is what he is, and that's a 6/7 defenseman. Scandella is already a 3-4 guy. The problem is, with our severe lack of defensive depth, he was playing top pairing for the majority of the season. Stoner's a good bottom pairing guy when he's healthy (which is on average only around 60% of a season). Don't confuse someone being able to get by in their proper role with them being a high end player.

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06-07-2012, 12:29 PM
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