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Gardiner schenn and the 5th overall

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06-01-2012, 11:00 PM
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Gardiner schenn and the 5th overall

What would that package get you a #1 centre or like those dreamers think luongo

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Nice package but Thats too much for Lou IMO....

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Kind of beating a dead horse here...

But:

Luongo + Ballard,
Heck, maybe we'll even throw in Raymond


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Yes sir, I think thatd atleast et you j.staal this summer. Can I convince you to trade it for roy

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Leafs fans will expect a superstar in return.

Unfortunately superstars are rarely traded and there currently aren't any for sale.

Leafs might just have to accept a package of good players...

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06-01-2012, 11:11 PM
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Let's see 5th pick
schenn top ten pick
gardiner topten pick
this is more then enough to get you a 1st pick
Tavares stamkos

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Nash and Nikitin?

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Let's see 5th pick
schenn top ten pick
gardiner topten pick
this is more then enough to get you a 1st pick
Tavares stamkos
Gardiner wasn't a top 10 pick....and that package might be a solid package, but won't get you a Stamkos or Tavares, IMO.

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How about Plekanec, Webber and a 2nd or prospect

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Gardiner wasn't a top 10 pick....and that package might be a solid package, but won't get you a Stamkos or Tavares, IMO.
he's definitely worth more than one

i'd trade 2/3 Schenn's before i trade Gards

and i would trade the 5th before him

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How about Plekanec, Webber and a 2nd or prospect
deal ... good luck getting Shea Weber first though

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In theory that will get you a big first line center. But I don't know what teams are shopping around their first line center. Teams tend to hold onto them. But yeah if someone were shopping around a first line center that's a package that would garner some serious attention.

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Let's see 5th pick
schenn top ten pick
gardiner topten pick
this is more then enough to get you a 1st pick
Tavares stamkos
I really doubt the Islanders or Lightning would be willing to give up Tavares or Stamkos for that. Those guys are just so hard to find. Schenns and Gardiners are a lot easier to find.

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I was only saying what gardiner might be worth now

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It is a pretty good package for almost any player, it all depends on how Schenn and Gardiner pan out. If Galchenyuk is still there at the 5th pick then it makes it worth while also. If it is Murray than not so much.

It would have to be a team that needs dmen.

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Gardiner wasn't a top 10 pick....and that package might be a solid package, but won't get you a Stamkos or Tavares, IMO.
I second that, I'd even go farther by saying that you'd have to double that offer to hope for a chance at a Stamkos or Tavares.

Schenn is a defensive Dmen, Gardiner's a nice prospect but hasn't proven anything yet...and the 5th overall in what's looking like an average draft.

With that package, you could probably get a #1 center, but one between the ages of 27 and 33, that averages a PPG and that comes with a big contract (I don't have a specific player in mind, really just giving my opinion of the type of value this package could/should represent...allthough now that I think about it, players like Eric Staal, Joe Thornton, Brad Richards...and again, you'd have to be lucky enough to have the perfect circumstances where one of these players wants out...or a team is looking to rebuild).

Young guys ala Stamkos/Tavares cost a fortune. They have 100+ pts per season potential for several years, as well as the fact they have several years as RFAs. Considering this type of player is very rare in the NHL, you have to overpay.

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I second that, I'd even go farther by saying that you'd have to double that offer to hope for a chance at a Stamkos or Tavares.

Schenn is a defensive Dmen, Gardiner's a nice prospect but hasn't proven anything yet...and the 5th overall in what's looking like an average draft.

With that package, you could probably get a #1 center, but one between the ages of 27 and 33, that averages a PPG and that comes with a big contract (I don't have a specific player in mind, really just giving my opinion of the type of value this package could/should represent...allthough now that I think about it, players like Eric Staal, Joe Thornton, Brad Richards...and again, you'd have to be lucky enough to have the perfect circumstances where one of these players wants out...or a team is looking to rebuild).

Young guys ala Stamkos/Tavares cost a fortune. They have 100+ pts per season potential for several years, as well as the fact they have several years as RFAs. Considering this type of player is very rare in the NHL, you have to overpay.
Some leafs fans overrate our picks/players/prospects but come on, that was a terrible troll attempt

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Maybe the Oilers do it for Eberle. Gives them pieces on Defense to build around and the ability to draft another high pick to add some depth. Leafs get the best player in the deal who has sky high potential but is potentially made a bit redundant in Edmonton with Yakupov going #1.

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Maybe the Oilers do it for Eberle. Gives them pieces on Defense to build around and the ability to draft another high pick to add some depth. Leafs get the best player in the deal who has sky high potential but is potentially made a bit redundant in Edmonton with Yakupov going #1.
I don't think value wise its close and even if some people feel it is, that is a lot of pieces young ones at that for Eberle

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Luongo and a 6th. You guys can even keep Komisarek.


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1st overall, Ryan Whitney and 2nd round pick in 2013

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That package or equivalent package in 08 would get you #1 pick in 09 #1 pick see what I mean

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Some leafs fans overrate our picks/players/prospects but come on, that was a terrible troll attempt
Why do you think he's trying to troll? He said if that package could obtain a #1C if there were one available, which I think would be perfect for the Leafs. But no GM in their right mind would ever consider trading a guy like Stamkos or Tavares like was suggested above. I completely agree with him, if there were a 1C available that would be the type of package required to get him. If a Stamkos or Tavares were available, which is unlikely at best, it would require more.

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Maybe the Oilers do it for Eberle. Gives them pieces on Defense to build around and the ability to draft another high pick to add some depth. Leafs get the best player in the deal who has sky high potential but is potentially made a bit redundant in Edmonton with Yakupov going #1.
I was just thinking about Eberle. Still, the risk is far too high for me to want to do a trade involving all 3 pieces.

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