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Could cap go to 76 million next Year?

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05-28-2012, 11:40 AM
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Except the new CBA will like2ly not have the same revenue split. The cap may reach that high over the summer, but will likely fall by as much as 10 mil by the time the season starts.
if they had a cap of 76 million they might knock it down some but 10 million no way thats not realistic. Even if it were to be knocked down it would be back up there in a year or 2 no matter what the split is more money brought in will always mean a higher cap

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05-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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Ilitch blew his wad on Prince Fielder. Sorry...no Suter for you!
Yeah, I heard that is a dual sport contract, and Prince is going to be backing up Howard next season. Watch out Jennings!

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05-28-2012, 11:56 AM
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if they had a cap of 76 million they might knock it down some but 10 million no way thats not realistic. Even if it were to be knocked down it would be back up there in a year or 2 no matter what the split is more money brought in will always mean a higher cap
I can see the owners trying for the NBA model of 50/50 split, that would keep it at between 64-69M but for how long?

As a side note, everyone keeps saying that Pheonix losing money is hurting the owners. I say they are trying to keep it to help lower the Cap

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05-28-2012, 11:57 AM
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11 teams would have to spend like crazy to reach the cap FLOOR

would make some of those teams very unstable finacially

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05-28-2012, 11:58 AM
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11 teams would have to spend like crazy to reach the cap FLOOR

would make some of those teams very unstable finacially
1 of those 11 teams can fight to acquire Gomez and pretty much problem solved!

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1 of those 11 teams can fight to acquire Gomez and pretty much problem solved!
Or they could overpay a hockey player.

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Interesting Larry Brooks of the NY post (mynhltraderumors.com) was saying cap could maybe reach 76 million and NY could be around 20 million in Cap space.Great for NY but im a Bruins fan and that means without put MS on long term IR we got 15 million to spend.This means a bidding war for Suter and Parise.
i hope so leafs need all the help they can get

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05-28-2012, 12:08 PM
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or they could do the simple thing agree to take out the cap floor that so that teams that can only spend 35 million don't have to spend 50 to reach the floor

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One of the Gm's, I can not remember who, suspected the cap would be 69 million next season.
I think that was Paul Holmgren.


It's also the first year of the new TV deal with NBC so that could jump cap numbers too.

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or they could do the simple thing agree to take out the cap floor that so that teams that can only spend 35 million don't have to spend 50 to reach the floor
That sounds eerily similar to the pre-2004 lockout situation that worked so well.

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the cap will not go down as long as profits rise
Who's profits? Columbus, Phoenix, NYI, Florida, etc all lost boatloads last year, and they're not alone. They couldn't make money when they were only spending 25-40 million. Now they're expected to spend 51+ million?

The cap isn't based on profits. It's based on total league revenue. Revenue DOES NOT EQUAL PROFIT.

Teams have all raised ticket prices year after year, they do so in part to spend to the cap, break even, loose less money, owner's greedy, etc. This increase's their (and thus league) revenue. Next season the cap (and floor) go up. They raise their prices again. Cap/floor goes up. They raise their prices again...

You see where I'm going with this? At some point you'll have teams that even with revenue sharing are not making a profit.

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A $76M summer cap would mean a $69M maximum and $53M minimum. Yes it's still high, but don't misinterpret what the $76M actually means.

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or they could do the simple thing agree to take out the cap floor that so that teams that can only spend 35 million don't have to spend 50 to reach the floor
Uh, that's exactly the scenario they hope to avoid when they came up with a cap ceiling/floor. They didn't want one team spending $100 million, while another team spends $10 million. It was to (hopefully) ensure that all teams were on an even playing field, for the most part.

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A $76M summer cap would mean a $69M maximum and $53M minimum. Yes it's still high, but don't misinterpret what the $76M actually means.
As a Habs fan I couldn't be happier with the idea of a 69 maximum and a 53 minimum.

At a 53 minimum cap and an atrocious UFA forward market the thought of Gomez' 10 million combined dollars in the next 2 years versus 14.6 combined cap dollars makes me think a team wanting to reach the floor would be willing to grab him.

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05-28-2012, 12:16 PM
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Uh, that's exactly the scenario they hope to avoid when they came up with a cap ceiling/floor. They didn't want one team spending $100 million, while another team spends $10 million. It was to (hopefully) ensure that all teams were on an even playing field, for the most part.
It's a stupid philosophy, when it's as far apart as it is it still allows for a total lack of an "even playing field".

If a team is going to spend 14 million under the cap why not let them spend 20 million, or 25 million under the cap? The same end result will occur.

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05-28-2012, 12:18 PM
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That sounds eerily similar to the pre-2004 lockout situation that worked so well.
but it's not because there would still be a cap celling just no floor

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05-28-2012, 12:20 PM
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So confused by all of this? Wasn't the major consensus the cap would be significantly decreaseing next season. How is this all changing to an increase now?

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If the cap is goingto be 76 million , then contracts like richards, carter, and kovy look really really nice.

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05-28-2012, 12:22 PM
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It's a stupid philosophy, when it's as far apart as it is it still allows for a total lack of an "even playing field".

If a team is going to spend 14 million under the cap why not let them spend 20 million, or 25 million under the cap? The same end result will occur.
Because in theory, you're making sure those cap floor teams are signing at least one, maybe two, legitimate top end players to stay competitive. If they were allowed to spend anywhere from 6 to 11 million less (in your example), that's the price of 2 to 4 decent players less they'd be "forced" to spend that money on to compete.

It's not going to be perfect; of course the playing field isn't perfectly level. But it's ensuring that certain teams still maintain a modicum of competitiveness, as compared to if they let teams spend as little as they want, and that competitiveness would then sink to next to nil.

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Or they could overpay a hockey player.
That doesn't help them financially...

Gomez has a 7.5mil cap hit, with a salary of 5.5 next year, and 4.5 the year after. To some teams, the actual salary is more important than the cap hit. Gomez could potentially save a team 2mil one year, and 3mil the next. Nobody would give up assets for him though, maybe a conditional pick.

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I think it'll be 68-69m.

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omg imagine what suter and parise sign for

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If the cap reaches 76 million Detroit will have 32 million to spend how do you like those apples
Yeah but..

Burke could still..

but..

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

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If the cap reaches 76 million Detroit will have 32 million to spend how do you like those apples
wow semin parise and suter all to the wings lol

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