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08-30-2012, 11:36 PM
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If Eberle and Hall become perennial PPG players, they're going to be setup perfectly to build a contender in the next 4-5 years.
It's true that's a great set up but let's see if they are actually lucky enough for the cup.

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08-30-2012, 11:53 PM
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It's true that's a great set up but let's see if they are actually lucky enough for the cup.
Well yea for sure. All I'm saying is that they have the flexibility to make a good team. Doesn't mean that they'll get it right, and make it work.

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Well yea for sure. All I'm saying is that they have the flexibility to make a good team. Doesn't mean that they'll get it right, and make it work.
still wont stop the blind followers from saying they have the cup basically lo

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08-31-2012, 12:17 AM
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still wont stop the blind followers from saying they have the cup basically lo
That's probably not the only thing they do prematurely.


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08-31-2012, 08:56 AM
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Eberle at 6 hopefully sets the market for Kessel at 6.5
He's achieved slightly more with similar ceilings

Anything around 6.5 is a reasonable price for kessel to show he wants tobe around and likes the directions

Anything above 7 and I'd think he wants to be paid to stay

Also 6 years is great term, even Burke could handle that

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Eberle at 6 hopefully sets the market for Kessel at 6.5
He's achieved slightly more with similar ceilings

Anything around 6.5 is a reasonable price for kessel to show he wants tobe around and likes the directions

Anything above 7 and I'd think he wants to be paid to stay

Also 6 years is great term, even Burke could handle that
I can see Kessel getting the 36 million but over 5 years. I think with any deal Kessel gets it could vary on the actual number every year.

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08-31-2012, 10:46 AM
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Eberle at 6 hopefully sets the market for Kessel at 6.5
He's achieved slightly more with similar ceilings

Anything around 6.5 is a reasonable price for kessel to show he wants tobe around and likes the directions

Anything above 7 and I'd think he wants to be paid to stay

Also 6 years is great term, even Burke could handle that
Kessel was a PPG player this year at age 24, Eberle was 76 points in 78 games at age 21.

Kessel got 5.4 per season at this stage of his career, and with the rise of the cap, this is very similar amount maybe even a little less than cap inflation.

Really depends on what happens with the new CBA, but I could see this being their ceiling for a while now.

But say RNH turns out to be the best of the bunch, and wanted a homerun contract, how many suitors are going to be lining up to bid on him?

Hoping the Oilers, with a billionaire owner, are going to be worried about their players being too good has always been a sign of jealousy.

The only question left unanswered is how good are their prospect defenders going to be? For Leafs we're still asking how good Kadri is going to be, and yet we see comments about the Oilers, when their best defensive prospects are 2 years younger than Kadri.

Oilers did a tank job, they were not in an accelerated rebuild/retool. Their highest pick wasn't used on a player going into his 2nd. contract.

Sittler, McDonald, Thompson, Turnbull, Kehoe, Ferguson, Boutette, Williams that was a pretty good streak of drafting way back when. And as Leafs' fans we watched some of them develop, while some of them moved to other teams and became their best.

I kind of like watching Leafs' drafted players develop, and I'm sure the Oilers are going to feel the same way.

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My question is: RNH will likely put up numbers better then both of these guys.. What are they going to pay him?

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08-31-2012, 11:19 AM
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My question is: RNH will likely put up numbers better then both of these guys.. What are they going to pay him?
6 million per season.

If he won't sign, they'll get an absolute haul of assets for him.

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6 million per season.

If he won't sign, they'll get an absolute haul of assets for him.
I don't see him not signing TBH. That top line will be deadly for years and I doubt he'd want to leave that under his own power (looking at you Gretzky.)

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I don't see him not signing TBH. That top line will be deadly for years and I doubt he'd want to leave that under his own power (looking at you Gretzky.)
Someone was mentioning the Sedin ceiling in Vancouver, that players won't get more than the Sedins, and if they want more they're probably not going to get it there.

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Someone was mentioning the Sedin ceiling in Vancouver, that players won't get more than the Sedins, and if they want more they're probably not going to get it there.
Didn't Detroit have the Lidstrom ceiling too?

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08-31-2012, 02:39 PM
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Didn't Detroit have the Lidstrom ceiling too?
Yep.

I think Boston has a similar type ceiling, although a little different. This is mere observation though. They have that one star player, and then no one else passes 5 million (except krejci at 5.25.)

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still wont stop the blind followers from saying they have the cup basically lo
Blind followers are what makes it possible for bad teams to have sell-outs.

Heck, some fan bases think just by hiring a Cup winning GM they're headed for the Cup, but at least the Flames have won a Cup since expansion.

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09-04-2012, 02:02 PM
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Landeskog, the youngest captain in NHL history. Holy cow. I knew the kid had character and could eventually be the captain, but at this age!? Well, it worked for Crosby and Toews. Shocking none the less.

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Landeskog, the youngest captain in NHL history. Holy cow. I knew the kid had character and could eventually be the captain, but at this age!? Well, it worked for Crosby and Toews. Shocking none the less.
I thought they would give it to O'Reilly, but I guess they felt Landeskog deserved it.

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this guy plays one season and hes captain? haha

come on man alreaedy?

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This might not sit well with some of their veterans or he must really be liked.

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kind of like when Toews became the captain
young guy that leads from actions on the ice
its a lot to take on but you always heard that about Land

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This might not sit well with some of their veterans or he must really be liked.
Well just like us with Rielly, he just oozes character and leadership. I knew it would happen eventually, but this just seems a little premature.

Other suitors; Hejduk (might not be around much longer), Duchene (immature according to some, maybe work ethic isn't quite there), O'Reilly (this is the guy I thought would get it, maybe more of an on-ice performer and not very vocal), Statsny (this would have been my pick).

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Blind followers are what makes it possible for bad teams to have sell-outs.

Heck, some fan bases think just by hiring a Cup winning GM they're headed for the Cup, but at least the Flames have won a Cup since expansion.
Which dumbass fans do that !?
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That's probably not the only thing they do prematurely.

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Landeskog, the youngest captain in NHL history. Holy cow. I knew the kid had character and could eventually be the captain, but at this age!? Well, it worked for Crosby and Toews. Shocking none the less.
He oozes character and tbh...not surprised one bit. That guy is just something, a beauty.

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Landeskog, the youngest captain in NHL history. Holy cow. I knew the kid had character and could eventually be the captain, but at this age!? Well, it worked for Crosby and Toews. Shocking none the less.
Guy should be playing hockey and developing his skills being mentored himself. To put these young guys in the drivers seat as the mentor is always tempting fate, if the team sucks I don't know if a 19 year old is the best guy to step up in the locker room, Lando has a single year of nhl experience.

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http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/05...deskog-captain

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Landeskog is 19 years and 286 days old. Sidney Crosby was 19 years and 297 days old when he became captain of the Pittsburgh Penguins on May 31, 2007.

Landeskog, a native of Sweden, also captained the Kitchener Rangers of the OHL in 2010-11, his final season of junior hockey.

He becomes the 11th captain in the history of the Avs/Quebec Nordiques and the third European, joining Hejduk and Peter Stastny.
At least he's had experience being a captain, and was recognized by a respected junior coach of being capable.

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At least he's had experience being a captain, and was recognized by a respected junior coach of being capable.
Very true. Plus, this managing staff isn't stupid. They're not simply going to take a young kid and give him more responsibility than he's able to take. He must really be something special mentally, vocally, and personally for them to make this decision. If this was an older team then I could understand some hesitation, but the Avs are one of the younger teams in the league.

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