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06-14-2012, 04:03 PM
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Sounds crazy but could Ryan Murray drop to us?
It sounds crazy because it is. The only way he drops out of the top four is if he falls down a very large flight of stairs in the next week or two and suffers severe injuries.

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06-14-2012, 04:23 PM
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Sounds crazy but could Ryan Murray drop to us?

When Fowler/Gormley dropped it was because there was a run of forwards.

What if GMs go for upside, they pick for tools rather than the tool box?

Skilled forwards - Yakupov, Grigorenko, Forsberg, Galchenyuk, Teravainen (5)

The big centers with upside - Faksa, Gaunce, Girgensons (3)

The big D with skill - Reinhart, Ceci, Trouba (3)

The pure offence Dmen - Reilly and Pouliot (2)

That's 13 picks. Throw in a few wildcards (Maata, Aberg, Collberg, Lindholm, Finn).

Who knows.
You forgot Dumba

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06-14-2012, 04:37 PM
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EDM- Nail Yakupov
CLB- Alex Galchenyuk
MTL- Mikhail Grigorenko
NYI- Ryan Murray
TOR- Matthew Dumba
ANA- Griffin Reinhart
MIN- Filip Forsberg
CAR- Radek Faksa
WIN- Jacob Trouba
TBAY- Morgan Rielly
WAS- Teuvo Teravainen
BUFF- Cody Ceci
DAL- Olli Maatta
CAL- Zemgus Girgensons


We'll see if I'm close or not.

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06-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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Would anyone feel the idea of posibly trading down to like the 22-25th pick be a good idea maybe getting a second rounder and a fourth round pick

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06-14-2012, 09:42 PM
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Would anyone feel the idea of posibly trading down to like the 22-25th pick be a good idea maybe getting a second rounder and a fourth round pick
Depends on who is still available at 14 and where the second rounder is.

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06-14-2012, 09:42 PM
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EDM- Nail Yakupov
CLB- Alex Galchenyuk
MTL- Mikhail Grigorenko
NYI- Ryan Murray
TOR- Matthew Dumba
ANA- Griffin Reinhart
MIN- Filip Forsberg
CAR- Radek Faksa
WIN- Jacob Trouba
TBAY- Morgan Rielly
WAS- Teuvo Teravainen
BUFF- Cody Ceci
DAL- Olli Maatta
CAL- Zemgus Girgensons


We'll see if I'm close or not.
I think we would take Gauce over Girgensons.

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06-15-2012, 02:37 AM
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Would anyone feel the idea of posibly trading down to like the 22-25th pick be a good idea maybe getting a second rounder and a fourth round pick
I don't think we would get a 2nd and a 4th

but what about

14th to Tampa for the 19th and 50th

or

14th to Buffalo for the 21st and 42nd

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06-15-2012, 08:34 AM
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Would anyone feel the idea of posibly trading down to like the 22-25th pick be a good idea maybe getting a second rounder and a fourth round pick
I don't think I'd want to. At 14 it already seems like Calgary's on the outside looking in.

I just hope Ceci or Maatta are still around when we are picking.

I'd rather see if us load up on picks in later rounds by trading dead weight like Stajan for picks.

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06-15-2012, 08:35 AM
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EDM- Nail Yakupov
CLB- Alex Galchenyuk
MTL- Mikhail Grigorenko
NYI- Ryan Murray
TOR- Matthew Dumba
ANA- Griffin Reinhart
MIN- Filip Forsberg
CAR- Radek Faksa
WIN- Jacob Trouba
TBAY- Morgan Rielly
WAS- Teuvo Teravainen
BUFF- Cody Ceci
DAL- Olli Maatta
CAL- Zemgus Girgensons


We'll see if I'm close or not.
Although I think you're close, I think it'll be a bit different, none the less, is it just me or does Minnesota look like they're going to all kinds of scary 3 year or so from now?
Like I'd rather take their farm over Edmonton's.

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06-15-2012, 09:56 AM
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I think we would take Gauce over Girgensons.
The descriptions of Gaunce and Girgensons are eerily similar. Both big powerful guys, with great work ethic, tons of leadership and other intangibles... but some scouts seem to think Gaunce will never be more than a 3rd line shutdown kind of center, and I don't see anyone saying that about Girgensons.

Personally I'm happy with either pick.

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I don't think I'd want to. At 14 it already seems like Calgary's on the outside looking in.

I just hope Ceci or Maatta are still around when we are picking.

I'd rather see if us load up on picks in later rounds by trading dead weight like Stajan for picks.
Picks, as in more than one? A sixth and a seventh round pick won't mean much, I'd rather keep Stajan for that return.

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06-15-2012, 10:31 AM
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Picks, as in more than one? A sixth and a seventh round pick won't mean much, I'd rather keep Stajan for that return.
Negative, 6/7th wouldn't be worth that trade. I just made it plural, for high hoping .
I would rather have the cap space and a kid playing than having Stajan with his current role with the team. (note the bold, I don't want people being like "Oh, but in my weird depth chart I have him on the first line!"; I'm talking his current role as 4th liner, swing 1-3rd line depending on which Flame was in the ward that week).

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The descriptions of Gaunce and Girgensons are eerily similar. Both big powerful guys, with great work ethic, tons of leadership and other intangibles... but some scouts seem to think Gaunce will never be more than a 3rd line shutdown kind of center, and I don't see anyone saying that about Girgensons.

Personally I'm happy with either pick.
Lot of people say Gaunce would be like an O Reilly and Girgs would top off as a 2nd liner.

I wouldn't want either pick myself. We have guys like O Reilly in Reinhart.

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06-16-2012, 09:58 AM
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I actually hope for a trade down. Somewhere in the 18-25 range so we can grab a guy like Mark Jankowski and pick up another pick. It sounds as though he is super raw but has as much upside as anyone in the draft. It would be a super risky pick, but its what we need. Maybe with an added 2nd we can grab a guy like Frk, or Marcuatoni and really take risks to add to the forward cupboard.

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I actually hope for a trade down. Somewhere in the 18-25 range so we can grab a guy like Mark Jankowski and pick up another pick. It sounds as though he is super raw but has as much upside as anyone in the draft. It would be a super risky pick, but its what we need. Maybe with an added 2nd we can grab a guy like Frk, or Marcuatoni and really take risks to add to the forward cupboard.
The good thing about jankowski is that he is the youngest if not among the youngest of the players so he could be even better.

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The good thing about jankowski is that he is the youngest if not among the youngest of the players so he could be even better.
I would not be shocked in the slightest if we took him at 14. Unless someone big slips to us, I am actually predicting he is our pick. He fits some of the criteria that the flames would/should/are looking for.

1. He's a Center
2. He has high upside
3. He's young for his draft class

Don't be shocked if his name is called on the 22nd.

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I would not be shocked in the slightest if we took him at 14. Unless someone big slips to us, I am actually predicting he is our pick. He fits some of the criteria that the flames would/should/are looking for.

1. He's a Center
2. He has high upside
3. He's young for his draft class

Don't be shocked if his name is called on the 22nd.
The issue is that he played in a high school or something division, not even major junior. Think Kyle turris when he lit up the Bchl. We don't know how good he is higher level opponents.

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I would not be shocked in the slightest if we took him at 14. Unless someone big slips to us, I am actually predicting he is our pick. He fits some of the criteria that the flames would/should/are looking for.

1. He's a Center
2. He has high upside
3. He's young for his draft class

Don't be shocked if his name is called on the 22nd.
I would rather grab Ceci the kid is just an offensive stud. If he is gone than I wouldn't mind trading down (I am assuming Reinhart is gone as well) but ideally I would like to get a top 10 pick and keep ours and try to get Reinhart and Ceci and build our future defense in one draft.

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I would not be shocked in the slightest if we took him at 14. Unless someone big slips to us, I am actually predicting he is our pick. He fits some of the criteria that the flames would/should/are looking for.

1. He's a Center
2. He has high upside
3. He's young for his draft class

Don't be shocked if his name is called on the 22nd.
Jay Feaster has commented, when talking to Pat Steinberg, that he has no intention in drafting those "big sexy" picks that are suppose to go later. He'll have a list and he'll follow it to a T.

A guy like Jankowski; outside of the Button draft, is mostly very late first, second rounder. Although he is appealing to grab, he won't be coming to Calgary, at least not in our first round.

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I would rather grab Ceci the kid is just an offensive stud. If he is gone than I wouldn't mind trading down (I am assuming Reinhart is gone as well) but ideally I would like to get a top 10 pick and keep ours and try to get Reinhart and Ceci and build our future defense in one draft.
I'd agree with this. Ceci would be a great pick at 14. If we could move up to 10, I'd like to see who falls out of the top 7-8 and try to snag them.

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They said ceci has numbers and a good shot but isn't a dynamic offensive player though.

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Looking through last years draft thread doesn't seem like anyone had Bartschi on their wishlist, he was mentioned but no one really had him at the top of their list and look how that turned out. I have faith in feaster to impress again this year.

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Looking through last years draft thread doesn't seem like anyone had Bartschi on their wishlist, he was mentioned but no one really had him at the top of their list and look how that turned out. I have faith in feaster to impress again this year.
He was more or less ranked 14-18 on most draft rankings, Bärtschi was, I do think Flames still managed to get 2 of the biggest steals in that draft getting Sven so late (although he was ranked near there, he developed much better than anyone could have imagined), and then Gaudreau.

Feaster was saying that up until the morning of the draft, they hadn't yet decided on who they were taking. Although he didn't name who they were also looking at, it went right down the wire with those two.

I trust Feaster, he's not going to gamble on taking someone ranked 25+ with 14. He'll get someone that's <14 on most draft rankings, I'm still hoping for Ceci or Maatta.

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He was more or less ranked 14-18 on most draft rankings, Bärtschi was, I do think Flames still managed to get 2 of the biggest steals in that draft getting Sven so late (although he was ranked near there, he developed much better than anyone could have imagined), and then Gaudreau.

Feaster was saying that up until the morning of the draft, they hadn't yet decided on who they were taking. Although he didn't name who they were also looking at, it went right down the wire with those two.

I trust Feaster, he's not going to gamble on taking someone ranked 25+ with 14. He'll get someone that's <14 on most draft rankings, I'm still hoping for Ceci or Maatta.
I remember Bart being in the top 12 for most lists.

If both Ceci and Maatta are gone, I think we should trade down, get a 2nd and grab a guy like Pouliot.

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I can't imagine we trade down this year unless we get a 2013 2nd round pick coming back.

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