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06-02-2012, 08:56 AM
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I don't think it's wise to sign any 3rd or 4th line veteran FAs unless they can be had for under 2 mil - ala fedotenko. in the salary cap era, you need to use the 3rd and 4th lines for integrating youth and building from within. you supplement with vets who are affordable. In today's game, those quick, gritty specialists that might get 20 goals in a good year are easy to find. And they're easier to find at the deadline. You can grab the konopkas and guastads when you need them without giving up much and near the end of the season you can more easily fit that extra pro-rated million or two under the cap. i'd rather spend money on scoring (top 6, and a PPQB on the back end).
Gaustad cost Nashville a 1st round pick, not sure that can be called "without giving up much"

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Gaustad cost Nashville a 1st round pick, not sure that can be called "without giving up much"
If it wasn't for a pencil thin market on centers, Gaustad would have never even sniffed a return of a 1st.

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06-02-2012, 09:03 AM
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Gaustad cost Nashville a 1st round pick, not sure that can be called "without giving up much"
And he is certainly not a "gritty specialist that might get 20 goals". 10-12 goal guy, yeah.

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06-02-2012, 09:15 AM
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I don't think it's wise to sign any 3rd or 4th line veteran FAs unless they can be had for under 2 mil - ala fedotenko. in the salary cap era, you need to use the 3rd and 4th lines for integrating youth and building from within. you supplement with vets who are affordable. In today's game, those quick, gritty specialists that might get 20 goals in a good year are easy to find. And they're easier to find at the deadline. You can grab the konopkas and guastads when you need them without giving up much and near the end of the season you can more easily fit that extra pro-rated million or two under the cap. i'd rather spend money on scoring (top 6, and a PPQB on the back end).
Normally I'd agree with your philosophy--but there are a few things to factor in. When we're looking at a number of young guys eating big minutes either as top 6 players forwards or top 4 d-men at
relatively low cost--Kreider, Hagelin, McDonagh, Stepan, Del Zotto that leaves more money to spread around--keeping in mind that a few years from now those players will be making more so having an awareness about cap flexibility is important. The monies paid to a player aren't always the biggest issue either--sometimes it's the length of contract. It would be one thing to give a player such as Gaustad a two year contract--3.5 mil per and another to give him a 4 year contract for 4 mil per. The one is much easier to get rid of the player if you have to than the other. There are also other considerations such as cap space available before the trade deadline which can mean the difference between filling a hole or not.

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06-02-2012, 09:21 AM
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If it wasn't for a pencil thin market on centers, Gaustad would have never even sniffed a return of a 1st.
Probably true, but reality says Nashville no longer has the pick and Buffalo does

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06-02-2012, 01:52 PM
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Probably true, but reality says Nashville no longer has the pick and Buffalo does
How dare you bring reality into this.

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i think he meat we don't trade kids named chris krieder or ryan mcdonagh

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06-02-2012, 02:42 PM
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How dare you bring reality into this.
True, terribly sorry...

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06-02-2012, 08:12 PM
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i think he meat we don't trade kids named chris krieder or ryan mcdonagh
Or... We don't trade kids in order to obtain players who can help us win now if they will be retiring within the next couple of years.

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Or... We don't trade kids in order to obtain players who can help us win now if they will be retiring within the next couple of years.
Or... no. if someone can help us win now, we'll trade one of our kids not named mcdonagh or kreider. who gives a **** if we win a cup?

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Or... no. if someone can help us win now, we'll trade one of our kids not named mcdonagh or kreider. who gives a **** if we win a cup?
I'd like to direct your attention to the 1994-2004 New York Rangers.

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06-02-2012, 11:55 PM
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Starting rumors again Brooksy?

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Acting with deliberate speed in the wake of the news 41-goal scorer Marian Gaborik will require right shoulder surgery that could sideline the sniper into December of next season, Rangers general manager Glen Sather has been in touch with Predators GM David Poile regarding impending Group II free agent winger Alexander Radulov, The Post has learned.

Radulov, who will turn 26 next month, has a lucrative contract offer on the table from CKSA of the KHL, the league in which he played the last four seasons before returning to the Predators for the stretch run and the playoffs, but a well-placed source has told The Post the winger would prefer to continue his career in the NHL.

The 6-1, 190-pounder scored 18 goals as a rookie in 2005-06 and 26 goals the following season before defecting to the KHL with one year remaining on his Entry Level contract.

The degree to which these discussions between Sather and Poile have advanced is unknown, but The Post has learned this is more than the GM “kicking the tires.” The Blueshirts, of course, would have to be given a window in which to conduct contract negotiations with Radulov before agreeing to trade for his rights.

It is unlikely Poile will play hardball, given the alternative is losing him for nothing to the KHL.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1whdRZyA4

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06-03-2012, 12:03 AM
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Starting rumors again Brooksy?
Well, there's a 25+ goal scoring winger we've been looking for. And if he's not re-signing in Nashville I can't expect he'd cost that much. 2nd/3rd round pick and/or a low level prospect if he signs. But more importantly, how much is he looking for...and will he fit the Torts mold?

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Interesting.

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06-03-2012, 12:12 AM
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Well, there's a 25+ goal scoring winger we've been looking for. And if he's not re-signing in Nashville I can't expect he'd cost that much. 2nd/3rd round pick and/or a low level prospect if he signs. But more importantly, how much is he looking for...and will he fit the Torts mold?
That is the $64,000 question. Who knows maybe his playoff debacle woke his dumb azz up.

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06-03-2012, 01:40 AM
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.....or maybe it's an indication of who he actually is.

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I will reserve myself until it happens. But if we give up assets for Radulov I will flip a ****.

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The "incident" involving him in the play off seems to have been blown out of proportion. But yeah, he doesn't seem to be a definition av "Torts kinda guy".

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06-03-2012, 05:01 AM
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Radulov wouldn't fit this team IMO, things would get ugly quick. If we want a winger for the top 6, my vote is for a guy like Ponikarovsky, Stempniak or Sturm.

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06-03-2012, 05:44 AM
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radulov would be zherdev 2.0

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if Radulov is cheap, id kick the tires.

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25+ goal scorers don't come along every day, Radulov might be a decent risk/reward option for adding a skilled scoring winger without breaking the bank. Definitely worth looking into at least, and the price shouldn't be crazy high given that Nashville risks losing him to the KHL for nothing.

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Radulov wouldn't fit this team IMO, things would get ugly quick. If we want a winger for the top 6, my vote is for a guy like Ponikarovsky, Stempniak or Sturm.
None of those players are top six players. Stempniak has a total of 33 goals his last two seasins combine. Sturm has 8 goals in his last two seasons (where he hasn't played more then 45 games in the last two seasons due to injuries). Pony has scored 19 goals combined in his last two seasons.

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I will reserve myself until it happens. But if we give up assets for Radulov I will flip a ****.
It depends upon what 'asset' the Rangers are giving up? I'd give up Christian Thomas for Radulov.

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06-03-2012, 08:26 AM
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I don't see Nashville giving him away and to be honest if all it takes is drafts picks and a prospect going back then why wouldn't Poile shop him around the league?--see if there's more interest?

Could cost us our 1st or someone like Artie who some thought would bust out last year but didn't.

As to Radulov's character--in his relatively short career he's ditched his team once and then in the playoffs got caught past curfew supposedly inebriated and got suspended for two critical games by the Predators. There are some character issues involved.

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