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05-30-2012, 07:05 PM
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Anyone who thinks Nash is a good idea is delusional, imo. There's no way he's gonna come cheap, and frankly, he's just not worth what they would want in return.

People should really enjoy this paradigm of building from within. Perhaps the people clamoring for Nash don't remember the dark days when we loved to trade away the future for underachievers that make an insane amount of money.

Just say NO to Nash.
We would get Nash, but also acquire assets by getting the right value for Gaborik.

Now if Howson and Co. still insist on asking for something ridiculous like they did at the deadline, then I'd just walk away from Nash all together.

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05-30-2012, 07:06 PM
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Time to look at things a bit more objectively. How does it look to future star UFA's if the Rangers keep signing players to large contracts the a couple years later trading them (Gomez/proposed Gaborik trade), buying them out (Drury), or demoting them to the minors (Redden).
Huh?

It's not like we traded Gaborik 6 months into his contract, or something like that. He's been here 3 years.

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05-30-2012, 07:08 PM
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Huh?

It's not like we traded Gaborik 6 months into his contract, or something like that. He's been here 3 years.
Yup and the only reason we get rid of them is cuz they were overpaid to begin with and suck ass. Gomez, Drury, Redden are all perfect examples of overpaid horse ****.

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Time to look at things a bit more objectively. How does it look to future star UFA's if the Rangers keep signing players to large contracts the a couple years later trading them (Gomez/proposed Gaborik trade), buying them out (Drury), or demoting them to the minors (Redden).
We did it to Mike Gartner(I hated that btw). We then proceeded to win a cup.

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05-30-2012, 07:10 PM
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Yup and the only reason we get rid of them is cuz they were overpaid to begin with and suck ass. Gomez, Drury, Redden are all perfect examples of overpaid horse ****.
To be fair, that doesn't apply to Gabs. He has lived up to his end of the bargain. But the Rangers have created an identity that does not favor his play style.

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05-30-2012, 07:12 PM
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Huh?

It's not like we traded Gaborik 6 months into his contract, or something like that. He's been here 3 years.
When these players sign 5 to 7 year deals I think they intend to play for that team for tge duration of the contract. Especially when they have limited NTC's.

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05-30-2012, 07:16 PM
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Yup and the only reason we get rid of them is cuz they were overpaid to begin with and suck ass. Gomez, Drury, Redden are all perfect examples of overpaid horse ****.
Four big UFA contracts handed all four removed from the roster one way or the other after a max of 3 seasons (If Gaborik is dealt), overpaid or not. It looks like crap and could hinder future UFA signings.

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05-30-2012, 07:23 PM
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Just listened to Torts / Michael Kay interview. If I understood, Torts basically said the the kids won't be traded since the Rangers don't appear ready to win.

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Just listened to Torts / Michael Kay interview. If I understood, Torts basically said the the kids won't be traded since the Rangers don't appear ready to win.
They don't appear ready to win? What exactly is Torts saying here.

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05-30-2012, 07:34 PM
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Parise is quickly becoming very, very overrated on here.

I like him and would take him for the right price but he cannot create on his own or dominate a game.

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05-30-2012, 07:35 PM
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They don't appear ready to win? What exactly is Torts saying here.
Yeah that doesn't really make too much sense. They were up 2 games to 1 in the ECF. The young players are only going to get better and they have an elite goalie in his prime.

Next few years are going to be the prime year's for this team to win.

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05-30-2012, 08:03 PM
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Guys, he said we want a guy that can score 60 goals. Obviously, we're trading for Stamkos!

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05-30-2012, 08:10 PM
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Yeah that doesn't really make too much sense. They were up 2 games to 1 in the ECF. The young players are only going to get better and they have an elite goalie in his prime.

Next few years are going to be the prime year's for this team to win.
I suspect that, as usual, Torts is in the disinformation business. He has no interest in spilling his plans over the airwaves.

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05-30-2012, 08:13 PM
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Time to look at things a bit more objectively. How does it look to future star UFA's if the Rangers keep signing players to large contracts the a couple years later trading them (Gomez/proposed Gaborik trade), buying them out (Drury), or demoting them to the minors (Redden).
Out of all of those situations trading Gaborik is the least damaging to any potential UFA signings IMHO.

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05-30-2012, 08:27 PM
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You know who else is available July 1st? Justin Schultz. Just sayin'.

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You know who else is available July 1st? Justin Schultz. Just sayin'.
He'll be a Leaf.

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05-30-2012, 08:38 PM
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So let me get this straight.

Let's trade Gaborik away and acquire Nash and Parise for.. Who and what? That would just be plain stupidity to trade Gaborik away. I know his performance wasn't nearly as good in the POffs as in regular season but he still scored over 40 goals in the regular season. Trading Gaborik and acquiring Nash does not remove that problem. Or can someone say how well Nash performs in the POffs. Anyone? Exactly.

Forget about Nash. The price (and risk) is way too high for what we would be getting. I'm all for Parise, IF the price is right. Otherwise, we are good as is with some minor trades before the next season.

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05-30-2012, 08:46 PM
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I love how people conveniently forget that Gaborik absolutely dominated the first half of the regular season, and was one of the main reasons that we won the conference and weren't a 7 or 8 seed (where we may not have won a round, depending on circumstances).

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05-30-2012, 08:53 PM
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Please stop with all the insane Parise talk, not a chance he signs with the Rangers NO Chance! Personally, I don't want any player from the HATED New Jersey Devils! Please exhibit some sense of self respect.

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05-30-2012, 08:57 PM
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I love how people conveniently forget that Gaborik absolutely dominated the first half of the regular season, and was one of the main reasons that we won the conference and weren't a 7 or 8 seed (where we may not have won a round, depending on circumstances).
Thats all i keep hearing. Gabby needs to show up in the playoffs too not just the regular season so he doesnt get a pass. Richards played great teh first two series then he was a ghost in the devils series.

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05-30-2012, 09:03 PM
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I truly believe going after Parise would be a big mistake.

I think he is an incredible player, but as I've said before if we're paying someone 7+ mill per year they need to not only be a goal scorer but also a player that can make his line mates better through his playmaking abilities and can carry the load by himself if need be.

Parise is a better Ryan Callahan, and while it's nice to have a team full of Callahans you need some game breakers and I don't think Parise is that.

Just my humble opinion.

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05-30-2012, 09:13 PM
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05-30-2012, 09:14 PM
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I truly believe going after Parise would be a big mistake.

I think he is an incredible player, but as I've said before if we're paying someone 7+ mill per year they need to not only be a goal scorer but also a player that can make his line mates better through his playmaking abilities and can carry the load by himself if need be.

Parise is a better Ryan Callahan, and while it's nice to have a team full of Callahans you need some game breakers and I don't think Parise is that.

Just my humble opinion.
I agree with you taht Parise is not a must have I think we can still get a good offensive threat elsewhere but for the right price it would makes ense. However we have never had good luck giving big contracts to devils players lol

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Wouldn't touch Parise. Rangers need more of a natural goal scorer.

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05-30-2012, 09:17 PM
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Gaborik has two years left at 7.5 mil. Nash has 6 at 7.8 mil. I don't really look at Nash as any more proven a player as Gaborik. True--he's played for a crap team but almost no playoff experience and definitely not a point per game player. Don't think Nash necessarily improves us at least at the expense of Gaborik and his longer term contract would tie us up several years into the future if he didn't play to best expectations.

Parise is a reach at this point anyway and people can speculate endlessly on that but it doesn't seem likely he's going to be a Ranger--at least IMHO. Rather add offense without trading away young assets though so trying to get Zach is a better idea than trying to get Nash.

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