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05-31-2012, 05:04 PM
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NYC seeks to ban large soft drinks

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/31/us/new...html?hpt=hp_t2

Those city living fatties obviously need the government to protect them from themselves. We can't go around expecting people to make their own decisions and living with the consequences of their mistakes. Maybe we should also have laws prohibiting people from eating more than 2000 calories a day? And cancel Thanksgiving, while we're at it. Its making people fat and we can't afford it.

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I don't think this is going to get through. Not in the way the article describes it, anyway. I do appreciate the principle though; somebody's gotta do something to curb "city living fatties."

Spokesman for NYC Beverage Association: "Soda is not driving the obesity rates."

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Bloomberg: “We’re not taking away anybody’s right to do things, we’re simply forcing you to understand that you have to make the conscious decision to go from one cup to another cup.”

How did this guy get elected?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnb...arbucks-drink/

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Bloomberg's a rich white billionaire. Are you surprised he got elected?

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Bloomberg: “We’re not taking away anybody’s right to do things, we’re simply forcing you to understand that you have to make the conscious decision to go from one cup to another cup.”

How did this guy get elected?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnb...arbucks-drink/

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Not quite the same, but


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Just put a picture of a dieing fat guy on the extra large cups.

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/31/us/new...html?hpt=hp_t2

Those city living fatties obviously need the government to protect them from themselves. We can't go around expecting people to make their own decisions and living with the consequences of their mistakes. Maybe we should also have laws prohibiting people from eating more than 2000 calories a day? And cancel Thanksgiving, while we're at it. Its making people fat and we can't afford it.
I am sure they are looking forward to the day where they can implement a mandatory exercise program as well.

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Just put a picture of a dieing fat guy on the extra large cups.
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Bucketloads of soda have been linked to getting fat and ugly and never having sex.

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Yet somehow he still gets elected term after term. Don't know how he is so appealing.

He was the same one who wanted to build bike lines all over NYC.

As for the topic, as I've said before in the political discussion free-for-all thread, there is no reason why the government should tell you what to drink or not drink, regardless of whether it's healthy or not. These kind of ridiculous rules are examples of government overstepping their bounds, but also imply that drinking one soda of this size is unhealthy. It's not.

Americans are not aware of moderation, and haven't been for years. That's why this country is fat. Because we eat out often, and eat with very little regard for moderation. Eating a steak every day, or fried foods every day will likely result in some sort of medical malfunction. Instead of focusing so much effort on trying to ban foods, there should be a concerted effort to better educate the population. You will not die if you drink one soda. You will die if you drink copious amounts of soda for 50 or 60 straight years. That's what people and lawmakers refuse to understand.

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Bloomberg blaming soda as the biggest culprit for childhood obesity...No one can deny obesity rates are increasing, but you should better educate the kids rather than straight up banning foods.

If soda should be banned, then we should also ban other "unhealthy" foods such as eggs, steak, cheese, milk, and candy!

Edit: I was watching Jamie Oliver a few years ago when he tried to put in healthier menus in WV. You'd be amazed how many kids love drinking chocolate milk. So soda isn't the main culprit here. Kids really love candy...and they'll get their sugar fix from somewhere else.


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Can I buy 2 liters or 3 liters (Faygo) for my party, or do I have to buy more expensive cans for everyone? When will we ban people from buying cartons of cigarettes and instead force them to buy single packs?

Also, don't get me wrong, whether or not Marijuana should be legalized is up for debate (I personally have conflicting views on it) but isn't it strange that we see overlap between the legalize pot crowd, and regulate the fizzy drinks beyond oblivion crowd?

There are two issues Obama angers me with, education privatization and Michelle Obama going on the shallow eating disorder factory known as The Biggest Loser and saying that bench pressing cessnas or whatever the hell they do is good for America.

Please, regulate what food stamps must be spent on if you have to, but banning soda pop is absurd, especially when an 18 year old can still buy a pack of smokes...

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Jesus ****ing Christ. Emperor Bloomberg strikes again. ****ing HUGE government *******.
In this particular case I wouldn't really call it 'big government', since it doesn't really create any bureaucracy so the the tax payer cost is minimal. From the other side of the political spectrum it's in line with Conservatives trying to dictate what two consenting adults can do in a bedroom.

But like ixcuincle said above, if they're going to attempt to ban these sorts of things one at a time it's a wonder that they don't just go for some sort of larger scale health quality improvement bill that tackles everything.

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Bloomberg is a tyrant. NYC seems to like their tyrant.

Well, tyrant is probably the wrong word, but he's bad

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SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Bucketloads of soda have been linked to getting fat and ugly and never having sex.
If we really wanted to see progress in this area, we'd just make it illegal for fat people to have porn. We'd be the fittest country on the planet.

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If we really wanted to see progress in this area, we'd just make it illegal for fat people to have porn. We'd be the fittest country on the planet.
Unfortunately, we have the internet and proxies...

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There's only one sugary drink that should be banned.




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There's only one sugary drink that should be banned.



I'd say all Mountain Dew products and her knockoffs...

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Nice to know that Bloomberg, despite his distaste of sodas, intends to declare tomorrow "National Donut Day"

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At Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s press conference touting his efforts to stop the sale of large soft drinks in restaurants, one reporter in attendance brought up the interesting fact that his administration also supporting “National Donut Day” tomorrow and inquired as to whether that muddled the mayor’s message on the issue.

Indeed, at 9:30 a.m. tomorrow morning, Entenmann’s will be unveiling “Custom-made Entenmann’s large donuts, 1-foot in diameter” at Madison Square Park at the same time they unveil a “Proclamation Letter by Mayor Michael Bloomberg.”

“The work of the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene reflects the mayor’s public health agenda,” Deputy Mayor Linda Gibbs said about the possible donut conflict. “The message is that we will do what we need in our official capacity to protect the health of New Yorkers.”

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Nice to know that Bloomberg, despite his distaste of sodas, intends to declare tomorrow "National Donut Day"
Bloomberg probably owns Dunkin Donuts stock...

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Nice to know that Bloomberg, despite his distaste of sodas, intends to declare tomorrow "National Donut Day"
He doesn't want to lose the cop vote.

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When the city no longer foots the bill for the health bills of its fat populace, the city will stop passing laws like this.

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When the city no longer foots the bill for the health bills of its fat populace, the city will stop passing laws like this.
They foot the bill for smokers too, and what about the people not on city assistance, they can't share a 2 liter? Can't they just tax it or something?

Sorry that excuse is simply not good enough.

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Can I buy 2 liters or 3 liters (Faygo) for my party, or do I have to buy more expensive cans for everyone? When will we ban people from buying cartons of cigarettes and instead force them to buy single packs?
Well if you actually read the article:

"The ban would outlaw such drinks larger than 16 ounces at restaurants, food carts and any other establishments that receive letter grades for food service. It would not apply to grocery stores."

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Also, don't get me wrong, whether or not Marijuana should be legalized is up for debate (I personally have conflicting views on it) but isn't it strange that we see overlap between the legalize pot crowd, and regulate the fizzy drinks beyond oblivion crowd?
I suppose I fit into both those "crowds", and I don't find it strange at all. Marijuana legalization and restricting the size of drink containers are completely different issues. Keep in mind, people who really want to drink more than 16 onzes of soda are still free to do that, they just have to buy another one, so it's nothing like prohibition.


Negative consequences of marijuana prohibition:
-marijuana production and distribution goes through the black market, leading to violence and profits for criminals
-otherwise innocent people go to prison for marijuana-related crimes, which leads to expensive prison and court costs, prevents them from contributing to society, and is obviously very unpleasant and disruptive in their lives
-government misses out on huge potential tax revenue
-those who have medical uses for marijuana have more difficulty accessing it
-police spend time pursuing marijuana-related crimes, instead of focusing that time on other issues
-etc.

Negative consequences of soda container restrictions at restaurants and events:
-people who want to consume more than 16 oz. of soda, will need to use both hands to carry 2 containers


I'm honestly curious: what concrete consequences am I missing here?

Do you see why I am okay with the latter, and not the prior?

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There are two issues Obama angers me with, education privatization and Michelle Obama going on the shallow eating disorder factory known as The Biggest Loser and saying that bench pressing cessnas or whatever the hell they do is good for America.

Please, regulate what food stamps must be spent on if you have to, but banning soda pop is absurd, especially when an 18 year old can still buy a pack of smokes...
He's not banning soda pop. There's been a lot of misleading headlines, but you should read past them to find out what the proposal is actually about, before making comments like this.

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