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03-09-2013, 07:30 PM
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Rangers fan here.
Why has Savard been benched then demoted this year, Is he struggling?
I was thinking he would be a good fit on the Rangers as a #6D/PP specialist from the right side, if he is passed by other D prospects and the price is right.
If Savard is moved he could probably be a PP specialist soon. He's got the instincts that can't be taught.

Its questionable if he'll ever play a good overall game. I don't know if its conditioning/laziness/body type (he was a fat kid in junior, junk food eater). I'm sure he is looking for a change in scenery though, as there are about 10 defenceman ahead of him on the Jackets depth chart and he hasn't endeared himself to JD.


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03-09-2013, 07:59 PM
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If Savard is moved he could probably be a PP specialist soon. He's got the instincts that can't be taught.

Its questionable if he'll ever play a good overall game. I don't know if its conditioning/laziness/body type (he was a fat kid in junior, junk food eater). I'm sure he is looking for a change in scenery though, as there are about 10 defenceman ahead of him on the Jackets depth chart and he hasn't endeared himself to JD.
When they sent down Holden and Savard, JD said on HOme Ice that one needed to work on his strength, the other his foot speed. You can guess which one was which.

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Thomas Larkin's NCAA career is over tonight, so he could end up with an ATO with Springfield. He was a 5th round pick in 2009. 6'5 right-shooting defenseman, played for Italy in the WC, co-captain for Colgate. He's a long-shot to get signed by the Jackets.

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03-10-2013, 09:25 AM
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Thomas Larkin's NCAA career is over tonight, so he could end up with an ATO with Springfield. He was a 5th round pick in 2009. 6'5 right-shooting defenseman, played for Italy in the WC, co-captain for Colgate. He's a long-shot to get signed by the Jackets.
I'd love it if he could play his way into a contract. First Italian-born-and-trained player?

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I'd love it if he could play his way into a contract. First Italian-born-and-trained player?
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03-10-2013, 01:00 PM
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If Savard is moved he could probably be a PP specialist soon. He's got the instincts that can't be taught.

Its questionable if he'll ever play a good overall game. I don't know if its conditioning/laziness/body type (he was a fat kid in junior, junk food eater). I'm sure he is looking for a change in scenery though, as there are about 10 defenceman ahead of him on the Jackets depth chart and he hasn't endeared himself to JD.
Question for the board? Who has more value between Moore and Erixson. Just wondering people's thoughts?

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03-10-2013, 01:10 PM
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Question for the board? Who has more value between Moore and Erixson. Just wondering people's thoughts?
For me its Erixon, I think he sees the game at an elite level which is maybe the biggest asset a defenseman can have.

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Question for the board? Who has more value between Moore and Erixson. Just wondering people's thoughts?
At this point, Erixon. But it's close. If Moore comes back and plays well, he could easily be the more valuable of the two/

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At this point, Erixon. But it's close. If Moore comes back and plays well, he could easily be the more valuable of the two/
Not arguing but curious. Why?

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03-10-2013, 01:22 PM
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Question for the board? Who has more value between Moore and Erixson. Just wondering people's thoughts?
Erixon, mostly because he has more offensive upside. Both have been steady defensively this year.

I doubt Moore will ever top 20 pts. I see Moore as mostly valuable at zone exits and playing sound defence. But Erixon's d-game is catching up to Moore's, and his offensive game has a much higher ceiling. He also looks like he'll be a really good PP QB.

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Not arguing but curious. Why?
I would describe Erixon at this time as sound defensively with offensive numbers that aren't indicative of his talent or contributions. That's exactly how I would describe Moore's play last year.

So Erixon jumps ahead mainly because Moore hasn't had played enough NHL games this season. Remember, all the Springfield fans said Moore was the better of the two during the lockout.

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03-10-2013, 02:09 PM
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Looking back at the 2009 Draft Class:

1st Round - 19th - John Moore (Erixon was selected 2 spots later)

2nd Round - 56th - Kevin Lynch - soon will be completing his NCAA career, has had a very good games lately, but still questions about his offensive ability.

4th Round - 94th - David Savard - looked like an steal for a long while, now a lot of question marks, could be trade fodder.

5th Round - 137th - Thomas Larkin - had a solid but unimpressive college career for a so-so team. Pro potential is questionable.

6th Round - 167th - Anton Blomqvist - another longshot huge defensemen but has struggled with injuries and the transition. Barring a huge turnaround, he's a bust.

7th Round - 197th Kyle Neuber - wasted draft pick on a fighter with no offensive ability.

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03-10-2013, 02:10 PM
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Isn't Erixon leading the team in +/- right now? Something like +13?

That's nothing to sneeze at.

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03-10-2013, 03:58 PM
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Isn't Erixon leading the team in +/- right now? Something like +13?

That's nothing to sneeze at.
Before yesterday he's at +3, tied with Boll for the team lead.

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03-10-2013, 04:13 PM
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I like them both equally. Each of them are capable of being top-four blueliners.

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NHL scouts re--rank last years draft.

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1. Nail Yakupov, RW (actually taken 1st by Edmonton)
2. Alex Galchenyuk, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)
3. Ryan Murray, D (taken 2nd by Columbus)
4. Jacob Trouba, D (taken 9th by Winnipeg)
5. Hampus Lindholm, D (taken 6th by Anaheim)
6. Mikhail Grigorenko, C (taken 12th by Buffalo)
7. Morgan Rielly, D (taken 5th by Toronto)
8. Filip Forsberg, RW (taken 11th by Washington)
9. Griffin Reinhart, D (taken 4th by NY Islanders)
10. Andrey Vasilevski, G (taken 19th by Tampa Bay)
11. Teuvo Teravainen, C (taken 18th by Chicago)
12. Scott Laughton, C (taken 20th by Philadelphia)
13. Tomas Hertl, C (taken 17th by San Jose)
14. Olli Maatta, D (taken 22nd by Pittsburgh)
15. Derrick Pouliot, D (taken 8th by Pittsburgh)
16. Malcolm Subban, G (taken 24th by Boston)
17. Mathew Dumba, D (taken 7th by Minnesota)
18. Zemgus Girgensons, C (taken 14th by Buffalo)
19. Radek Faksa, C (taken 13th by Dallas)
20. Tom Wilson, RW (taken 16th by Washington)
21. Stefan Matteau, C (taken 29th by New Jersey)
22. Mike Matheson, D (taken 23rd by Florida)
23. Oscar Dansk, G (taken 31st by Columbus)
24. Henrik Samuelsson, C (taken 27th by Phoenix
25. Mark Jankowski, C (taken 21st by Calgary)
Based on this, seems like Erie is just as a bad, bad team.

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Based on this, seems like Erie is just as a bad, bad team.
A lot of scouts likely had Dansk ranked there for the draft, but goalies are selected more on need, so he dropped. It might not just be scouts re-ranking players based on their current play.

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03-13-2013, 12:23 PM
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boone scored #45 tonight...

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What are the odds McIllhaney comes up to backup Bob next season, clearing a spot for Dansk? I'm not exactly advocating this, just curious.

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boone scored #45 tonight...
When Boone joins the lineup, the sandpaper quotient will be magnified.

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What are the odds McIllhaney comes up to backup Bob next season, clearing a spot for Dansk? I'm not exactly advocating this, just curious.
Dansk needs another year of junior. If any of the prospects play in the AHL, it would be Forsberg.

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What are the odds McIllhaney comes up to backup Bob next season, clearing a spot for Dansk? I'm not exactly advocating this, just curious.
Dansk won't be old enough for the AHL ... so, as mentioned directly above, Forsberg may be the option here.

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Based on this, seems like Erie is just as a bad, bad team.
Falling only one spot isn't bad when you're shoulder got ripped up and the only guy who passed you is having some NHL success already.

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