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07-02-2013, 05:37 PM
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Told #CBJ will not extend qualifying offer to G Allen York, making him an unrestricted free agent.
Awww. I liked what he'd done when he was here. Too bad.

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Didn't I see they signed Mike Clemente back again today?

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Didn't I see they signed Mike Clemente back again today?
To an AHL only deal. He'll either be the 2nd or 3rd goalie in Springy.

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Anyone have thoughts on the prospect pool/rankings post draft? Given the added forward depth I feel much more comfortable with our prospect depth throughout now. It looks like 8-10 deep on defense, 3-4 deep on goaltending and 6-8 deep on forwards. I would still like additional forward depth towards the high end skill level but I really like what was done at the draft.

Depth looks like it covers several areas and types of players/skill sets.

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no idea on rankings, but here is CBJProspects Dev Camp lines

CBJ Prospects ‏@CBJProspects 29m
Ok here goes
Rychel-Jenner-Anderson
Zaar-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Søberg-Chaput-Dano
Smith-Collins-Moutrey #CBJ #DevelopmentCampTeam

CBJ Prospects ‏@CBJProspects 47m
Defense: Murray-Curcuruto Heatherington-Reilly Weber-Melart 7th Madaisky
Goalies: Forsberg-Dansk #CBJ #DevelopmentCampTeam

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no idea on rankings, but here is CBJProspects Dev Camp lines

CBJ Prospects ‏@CBJProspects 29m
Ok here goes
Rychel-Jenner-Anderson
Zaar-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Søberg-Chaput-Dano
Smith-Collins-Moutrey #CBJ #DevelopmentCampTeam

CBJ Prospects ‏@CBJProspects 47m
Defense: Murray-Curcuruto Heatherington-Reilly Weber-Melart 7th Madaisky
Goalies: Forsberg-Dansk #CBJ #DevelopmentCampTeam
Some intersting names there I'd really like to get a look at. Zaar being 1 of them to see where hes at and also Melart, see if he has any kind of future. Same for Curcuruto, seen a lot of praise about how he's brought his stock back up but i don't think i've honestly seen him play before. Our prospect team looks deeper then some of our older NHL teams did


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Columbus' system improved thanks to their three first round picks at the 2013 draft, as well as the development of Boone Jenner. The Blue Jackets also possess some quality college prospects, such as T.J. Tynan and Mike Reilly. 2012 second overall pick Ryan Murray does not hurt, either. Columbus boasts good depth, but their top end is merely decent.
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Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 44 s
You've seen the name Ville Siren mentioned in our coverage the last two weeks or so. Today Siren was named head amateur scout for #CBJ.

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Also, Josef Boumedienne was named European scout.

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Siren, a former #NHL defenseman w Pittsburgh, has been a scout with #StlBlues for the past nine years.

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#CBJ Paul Castron remains director of amateur scouting. Tyler Wright left after being asked to take on a different job with club last week.

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I doubt this will happen, but that doesn't mean Prince George isn't trying to get them to come over:


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According to @AlBristowe on TPS earlier tonight, the @PGCougars are hoping to add both Marko Dano and Joonas Korpisalo. @TPSDean @TheWHL

https://twitter.com/TPS_Guy/status/354810039304859648

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I doubt this will happen, but that doesn't mean Prince George isn't trying to get them to come over:


Guy Flaming Guy Flaming ‏@TPS_Guy

According to @AlBristowe on TPS earlier tonight, the @PGCougars are hoping to add both Marko Dano and Joonas Korpisalo. @TPSDean @TheWHL

https://twitter.com/TPS_Guy/status/354810039304859648
CBJProspects thought they only had one import slot open...so he was confused

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I doubt this will happen, but that doesn't mean Prince George isn't trying to get them to come over:


Guy Flaming Guy Flaming ‏@TPS_Guy

According to @AlBristowe on TPS earlier tonight, the @PGCougars are hoping to add both Marko Dano and Joonas Korpisalo. @TPSDean @TheWHL

https://twitter.com/TPS_Guy/status/354810039304859648
Sending them to a crappy CHL team does nobody any good. We've seen how it's worked out for Dansk so far.

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Sending them to a crappy CHL team does nobody any good. We've seen how it's worked out for Dansk so far.
CHL teams can turn around quickly, and perhaps trying to get older Euros might be part of that strategy. But I can't see the value in prospects playing in the CHL rather than the KHL or SM-Liiga.

The CHL might be an option for players who are stuck between being too good for the junior leagues in Europe but not ready to play in a top mens league.

Söberg would be a better candidate, especially since he's likely back in the U20 SuperElit league in Sweden, but he wasn't drafted in the import draft. Anyone know if he still could be signed by a CHL team?

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Sending them to a crappy CHL team does nobody any good. We've seen how it's worked out for Dansk so far.
Dansk is playing on a pretty young team with the next potential generational talent. We should be a bit better this year.

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Dansk is playing on a pretty young team with the next potential generational talent. We should be a bit better this year.
They still look horrible

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Strange ...

The Cougars drafted two European players in last week's import draft, which gave them the technical rights to three; Korpisalo being one of them. Marko Dano wouldn't be included on that list, and I don't believe they can add him if they didn't draft him. They can only carry two European players, per CHL rules.

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Söberg would be a better candidate, especially since he's likely back in the U20 SuperElit league in Sweden, but he wasn't drafted in the import draft. Anyone know if he still could be signed by a CHL team?
I believe he has to be selected in the Euro draft.

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Updated: My version of our top-20 prospects

Post draft, here is my new shakedown of our top-20. As some of you will probably notice, there are some notable names not on this list that would have been just a few weeks ago. This isn't as much to do with their play or development, but more to do with the fact that we have added some serious talent to our pool at the draft. I listed the team that I expect these guys to play for this year, along with how we acquired them. The height/weight listings come from eliteprospects.com, or in a couple of occasions from my own personal notes.

20. Gianluca Curcuruto, D, Plymouth Whalers (selected 182nd overall, 2012 NHL Draft), 6'0", 195lbs

Originally talked about as a potential first rounder, Curcuruto's dismal draft year with the Soo Greyhounds led to him falling all the way to the seventh round. After a preseason trade to the Whalers, Curcuruto again found his game and was nothing short of brilliant in Plymouth, restoring the thought that he could someday be an NHL defenseman. His best asset is his booming shot, which he gets off quickly and accurately. Good skater, good vision, solid all-around offensive defenseman. I personally expect Curcuruto to be one of the top defensemen in the entire CHL this year.

19. Austin Madaisky, D, Springfield Falcons (124th overall, 2010 Draft), 6'2", 200lbs

Another guy whose stock fell in his draft year, Madaisky is a big, talented defender who has suffered two very unfortunate injuries, both of which have put not only his development, but also his entire career, into question. Hard to play against, Madaisky can play a punishing physical game if need be, but is best suited as a second/third pairing puck mover. Good shot, good vision, surprisingly good skater, Madaisky will need to show that he can be healthy this year, or risk being surpassed by a glut of talented defenders coming behind him.

18. Mike Reilly, D, U of MIN. Golden Gophers (98th overall, 2011 Draft), 6'1", 170lbs

When I think of Scott Howson, I will always be reminded of the long-term NCAA "project" picks that he made. Some, like Cam Atkinson, have turned out ... Mike Reilly seems to be following a similar mold. A smallish defenseman, while playing with his two older brothers in the BCHL, Reilly and the Penticton Vees tore the league apart during his draft year. This past season, Reilly lived every Minnesota hockey kid's dream and played honed his skills with the Gophers, putting up decent (if not awe inspiring) numbers from the blueline. An excellent skater, Reilly is at his best when he is using his foot speed and vision to create chances for his opponents. He is a heady defenseman that knows when to join the rush, and can create chances. He will need to improve both his defensive game and his strength as he continues to develop, but as of now looks to be a decent mid-round find.

17. Michael Chaput, C, Springfield Falcons (acquired via trade from Philadelphia; originally selected 89th overall, 2010 Draft), 6'1", 192lbs

The kind of player that coaches love, Chaput is a guy that can play virtually any role that is asked of him. You can put him in a top-6 role and he can score, or you can put him on a third or fourth line and watch him play a gritty, physical game. Good on the penalty kill, good in the faceoff circle, competes hard, wants to win. Really, a prototypical third line player, a role that he may be able to step into in 2014-15. Look for him to continue to hone his skills in the AHL this year, preferably while stepping up his offensive game.

16. Lukas Sedlak, C, Springfield Falcons (158th overall, 2011 Draft), 6'0", 207lbs

Similar to Chaput in play style and all-around awareness, Sedlak lands one spot ahead of him due to his offensive upside. Sedlak has better hands, and could be a better offensive player, than Chaput. Outside of that, they are very similar in all aspects - Sedlak won't hurt you in any zone, in any situation, and competes to win. Competed well with the Czechs at the World Juniors this past year, and will suit up in the AHL this year. Will need to show that he can stay healthy over the course of a full season, but should be leaned upon by the coaches - right from the start - to play a somewhat significant role for the Falcons.

15. Markus Soberg, RW, Frolunda (165th overall, 2013 Draft), 6'0", 174lbs

One of my dark horses at this year's draft, I was very happy to see Jarmo and company take the speedy Norwegian winger in the sixth round. Soberg is exactly what a late round pick should be; a guy that is better than many people give him credit for, who is a few years away from making an impact at the pro level. He will have to get stronger, but Soberg's blazing speed and knack for finding the net should be enough to keep him high on our radar until he does bulk up. Reminds me favorably of Michael Grabner at the same age ... I thought this player would be gone before the fourth round.

14. Oliver Bjorkstrand, RW, Portland Winterhawks (89th overall, 2013 Draft), 5'10", 160 pounds

A player I watched probably 30+ times this year, Bjorkstrand is a guy that I've picked apart piece by piece, and still have a hard time getting a feel for. On some nights, he's the best player on the ice, dazzling with his hands and finding open spots to dangle from. But then there are the other nights, where he is completely invisible and you don't even realize he's playing. A perimeter player, Bjorkstrand is another guy that has the vision and skillset, but needs to get stronger and compete harder in the tough areas. The two may coincide ... but, he has some of the slickest hands in the entire class of this year's draft, and can absolutely fire the puck at a moment's notice. There are two questions I have: can he continue to handle the rigors of the North American game? And, with Portland losing some ridiculous talent, can he step into a top line role and play the hard minutes? I'll be watching him closely all year long.

13. Daniel Zaar, RW, Rogle (SWE), (152nd overall, 2012 Draft) 6'0", 176lbs

Zaar is a talented kid who plays well in all three zones. The greatest asset he has is his shot, which he gets rid of quickly and accurately. Needs to get stronger, but is an above average skater with good acceleration. Good hands, not overly physical. A guy that I would love to see come over to North America, preferably to spend some time in the AHL. Not seeing a ton of ice time in Sweden, but had a strong showing at the WJCs, and has a very impressive skillset.

12. David Savard, D, Springfield Falcons (94th overall, 2009) 6'1", 201lbs

Hard to believe we drafted this player over four years ago. Savard is a guy that has yet to make his impact felt at the NHL level, but has done enough at the AHL to make you wonder if he's just a good AHL player. Good puck mover, great shot, and a better skater than I feel he gets credit for, Savard's potential lies in his ability to play the offensive side of the puck. Won't kill you defensively, but not a real standout in that department. I have to believe that this is his final chance to make an impact with our franchise, or he will be dealt away before season's end for another piece. Perhaps a change of scenery is what's best for him at this point, anyhow, as he has been surpassed by a few players in the last couple of seasons.

11. Jonathan Audy-Marchessault, RW, Springfield Falcons (free agent, 2012), 5'9", 163 pounds

Many people had huge hopes for "JAM" coming into the season, and I feel that he met them just fine. He was a prolific scorer for the Falcons, improving upon both his totals and his per-game average from his first year in the league. Still a bit of a longshot prospect for me, Jonathan is blazing quick, with a good shot and strong vision. Size will always be a concern with him, so he will have to prove that he's fit for a top-6 role in the NHL, or he will be doomed to the American League for his career. Definitely not a bad guy to have around, but it's all or nothing with him.

10. Cody Goloubef, D, Springfield Falcons (37th overall, 2008 Draft), 6'1", 194lbs

A player that took major steps forward this year, Goloubef reminded us why he was a second round pick, and also that he's not done just yet. Though he has a surprisingly hard shot, Cody is best utilized as a stay at home defenseman, a supporting type of player, perhaps best used with a puck mover playing the other side of defense. The type of player that we're relatively thin on in our system, can be a hard hitter and keep opposing forwards honest. I think he's very close to cracking an NHL lineup; but may be best used as trade bait, as it will be hard to make room for him in our lineup.

9. Joonas Korpisalo, G, Jokerit (FIN), (62nd overall, 2012 Draft), 6'2", 168lbs

Selected in the third round last summer, Korpisalo is developing as expected for a goaltender taken in that range. Not seeing a ton of time in Finland last year, that's something that I expect to change in 2013-14, as Korpisalo returns to Jokerit for what I expect to be his last year. Big, but lanky, Joonas has good lateral movement, is a good puck stopper, and decent rebound control. Would love to see him up close with Prince George this year, but I don't see that happening. A long-term prospect, I don't expect to see this player in a CBJ uniform for at least the next 2-3 years.

8. Dillon Heatherington, D, Swift Current Broncos (50th overall, 2013 Draft), 6'3", 196lbs

If ever there were a "perfect" second round pick, Dillon Heatherington would be it. He will play in the NHL, the only question for me is, how soon, and in what capacity? Sometimes teams hit homeruns with players like this (such as Shea Weber), other times, they simply become "good" all-around players, such as Nick Schultz. While I won't compare him to either of those players, Heatherington is big, can skate, hit, shoot, pass, and plays with his head. I think he's a good bet to be a top-4 NHL defenseman, playing in a shutdown role alongside one of our many puck movers. We're going to love this player for many years to come.

7. Marko Dano, RW, HC Slovan (KHL), (27th overall, 2013 Draft), 6'0", 214lbs

A talented, stocky winger, Dano was a little bit off the board being selected at 27th overall, but it's easy to see GMJK's attraction to the Slovakian forward. Already with a full year against men under his belt, Dano was nothing short of dominant with the Slovaks at the WJC's, scoring 9 points in 6 games, while adding 12 penalty minutes. Competes in the hard areas, battles physically, has good hands and a nose for the net. Reminds me of TJ Oshie in many ways - was taken higher than expected, by generally the same staff, and plays a nearly identical style with a similar frame - a guy that's fairly close to the NHL, but will be best suited honing his game for 2-3 years before being really given a shot.

6. Anton Forsberg, G, ???, (188th overall, 2011 Draft), 6'2", 176lbs


An impressive find in the seventh round, Forsberg's hugely impressive numbers this year in the Allsvenskan have skyrocketed his value for me. A 93.3% save percentage for a 19 year old, playing against men in a pretty good league, is nothing to sneeze at. Good size, rock solid in goal, this guy seems like a gem of a late round pick, perhaps the best in our franchise's history. I would love to see this guy in the AHL this fall, but it's possible that he goes back to Sweden for one more year. As it stands, this guy should be high on our watch list, as he could be the goaltender of the future if things don't work out with Bobrovsky.

5. Oscar Dansk, G, Erie Otters (31st overall, 2012 Draft), 6'2", 190lbs

In spite of the fact that I think Forsberg is quite a bit further along than Dansk, I still feel that Oscar may have a higher potential ceiling. While playing on one of the worst teams in junior hockey this year, Dansk was tested to the max, on most nights facing 40+ shots. While his numbers aren't strikingly impressive, he did hold his own and kept the Otters alive on many nights when they probably weren't deserving. Expect far better numbers this year from Dansk as the Otters should show some improvement in front of him. Could be a star quality goalie in the NHL, but is probably 2-3 years from being close.

4. Kerby Rychel, LW, Windsor Spitfires (19th overall, 2013 Draft), 6'1", 205lbs

After back-to-back 40 goal seasons with the Windsor Spitfires, Kerby Rychel was an easy selection at #19. He fits the mold of the current CBJ forward: physical, hard to play against, stands up for his teammates, and wants to compete and win. Scores the bulk of his goals from roughly a 10 foot section right in front of the net. Improved his all-around game, used his teammates better this year, and stepped up as a leader on a young team. Will need to show solid discipline and work on his skating, as well as improving his defensive zone play. I feel he has the highest potential of any forward in our system, Rychel could be a big time goal scorer in the NHL if his game translates. Reminds me a lot of a young John LeClair.

3. Alexander Wennberg, C, Frolunda (SWE), (14th overall, 2013 Draft), 6'1", 183lbs

A somewhat obvious choice where we were picking, Wennberg is another guy that is easy to pencil into the current lineup of the CBJ, but is probably a year or two from actually cracking the lineup. With a good pro frame, Wennberg is a solid all-around pivot that can do just about everything well. Good on the faceoff dot, good in his own end, good in the offensive zone ... you get my point. Needs to play with more physicality and get stronger, but is really a somewhat "safe" pick in that he should at least be a third line player in the NHL. I feel like his offensive potential his higher than most people give him credit for. A typical Jarmo type of pick, a guy that won't be a dominant scorer in the NHL, but when you look at a lineup full of guys like this (hello, St. Louis ...) you get a pretty darned effective team that plays the game hard in all three zones, and is tough to beat.

2. Boone Jenner, C, Springfield Falcons (37th overall, 2011), 6'2", 205lbs


While most of us thought that the turning point of our franchise came on this day in 2011, it was probably not due to Boone Jenner. After all, we had traded our first round pick (Sean Couturier) in a deal that saw us picking up Jeff Carter, one of the best in the business. We may look back on this day and still think of it as a major turning point for us, but mainly because of the excellent draft we had without a first round pick - something we'd never done before. Every player we took at that draft is on my list this year except for one (Seth Ambroz). Leading the pack? The captain of the Oshawa Generals, Boone Jenner. Thought of as a potential late first round pick, Jenner fell out of the first round due to concerns about his skating and offensive upside. Boy, were we wrong. This last year, Jenner tore up the OHL, scoring 45 goals and 82 points in just 56 games, while captaining his team. He added an impressive +23 rating, and showed that he can play physical, but within the rules, with 58 penalty minutes. This is the face that our franchise has taken on - physical, competitive, solid defensively, doesn't give up on any shift, blocks shots, kills penalties, and competes to win. After a late season call-up to Springfield, Jenner scored 3 goals and 4 points in 5 games, before being a key contributor in the playoffs. I fully expect him to spend the bulk of this year in the AHL, but I will not be surprised if we at least see him for a few games in Columbus. Has future NHL captain written all over him.

1. Ryan Murray, D, Columbus Blue Jackets (2nd overall, 2012 Draft), 6'1", 205lbs

In spite of season-ending shoulder surgery, Murray remains at the top of my list. Why? Because he's one of the top 5 defense prospects in the entire world. Had there been no NHL lockout, it would have been easy for the Jackets to have Ryan Murray in their opening night lineup last fall. As it stands, Murray was sent back to the Everett Silvertips of the WHL, where the young captain scored twice and added 15 assists, 14 penalty minutes, and an even rating in 23 games. While those numbers don't stand out as spectacular, it should be noted that after his injury, Murray - a defenseman - continued to lead his team in scoring for nearly three full weeks without him in the lineup. If I were rating on a 10 scale, Murray's skating would be somewhere around a 12 ... he's incredibly smooth, fluid, and looks like he isn't moving at all even when he's at top speed. Excellent acceleration, great defensive positioning, and a well above average hockey IQ. Very good vision, a very good passer, and a surprising shot that he gets through traffic and on net seemingly every time he shoots it. Murray needs to work on the physical aspects of his game - particularly staying healthy - but other than that, looks to be very much NHL ready. Will need a little time to adjust and get his game back due to being injured long-term, so he may start the year in Springfield; but don't be surprised to see him not only crack the lineup this year, but also potentially make someone in the top-4 expendable. Another guy that could be a captain in the NHL, Murray is mature well beyond his years, and shouldn't have a difficult time adjusting to the pro game at all.

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Thanks SL. It's interesting to see Jenner still at #2 despite adding Wennberg and the rest of this year's talent, but I have to agree. The old 3rd line C expectations for Jenner are old news. If I make a quick list it looks a lot like yours, with the main exception being that I have forsberg way ahead of dansk and korpisalo.

murray
jenner
wennberg
rychel
forsberg

heatherington
dano
goloubef
reilly
dansk

jam
savard
bjorkstrand
soberg
curcuruto

zaar
korpisalo
chaput
melart
sedlak

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Although I disagree with some of the order, your list and reasons were very well thought out of and very well presented. Well done SL

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Thanks SL for your insight. I think you have Goloubef too low given he showed well in the few NHL games he played. I also think Forsberg looks like a better option than Dansk I'm nit picking. Good list. I'll come up with something when I have a little more time. Good list and well done.

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Thanks guys...

The hardest decision was with Dansk and Forsberg. One of the reasons I have Dansk ahead is because he's already playing in North America. I'm always skeptical of guys who have huge success overseas, until they come across and play on this side of the pond ... it's hard to get a good read on a guy that I don't get to see very often. With Dansk, I see similarities to Carey Price, who had a rough go of things in his first year in junior also, before really coming onto the scene the next year.

Really, they are neck and neck for me. It's a good problem to have.

As for Goloubef, I actually figured I would get some flack for putting him up as high as I did ... but, he fills a need that we don't have a lot of (maybe only Dalton Prout and Dillon Heatherington) ... I would love to see Cody paired alongside someone like Mike Reilly in a couple of years, that could be a fun pair to watch.

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Strange ...

The Cougars drafted two European players in last week's import draft, which gave them the technical rights to three; Korpisalo being one of them. Marko Dano wouldn't be included on that list, and I don't believe they can add him if they didn't draft him. They can only carry two European players, per CHL rules.
According to EliteProspects, Dano was drafted by Prince George in 2011. I don't know how long teams hold the rights for a player.

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Always enjoy the lists and insight, SL

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I like the fact that 3 of the top 4 on your list are Forwards. And that 2 goalies are 5 & 6.

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Nice run down of players SL. What I like most is the organization seems to be developing the depth of skilled players that you can withstand some disappointing misses at the top of the list and still have the talent behind it.

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