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06-04-2012, 09:37 AM
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Talking with a couple of the Russian media guys (Chesnokov, Malamud, etc), this contract with CSKA, however large, appears to be Radulov's "backup plan" in case he's either lowballed in the NHL or there's a work stoppage.
nonsense. CSKA has to pay over 6 milions USD for his KHL rights. And gets nothing? Are you serious??

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06-04-2012, 09:40 AM
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...and if anyone can "encourage" Radulov to conform to the culture of the NEW NYR it is Torts. Ask Vinny Lecavilier. Not to mention the culture and influence of the group.

And one thing no one has mentioned is that the kid is human. Maybe he learned from his mistake. Maybe that, and the chance to play in NYC with a Russian community (I still remember the Khab-I-Bul-Lin chants during the 1996 World Cup at MSG).

I think there is a LOT to like here. A conditional pick yo Nashville for negotiating rights. Should be done already.

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06-04-2012, 09:42 AM
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Poile doesn't need to do the Rangers any fsvors. A 2nd round pick is nothing and I'm sure there are better offers on the table.
For a guy who is as big of a flight risk as Radulov?

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06-04-2012, 09:45 AM
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Its shocks me that NYR, isn't capped out?
This Rangers overspending tidbit is getting so old. That type of team is 10 years in the past you folks need to let it go.

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06-04-2012, 09:47 AM
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nonsense. CSKA has to pay over 6 milions USD for his KHL rights. And gets nothing? Are you serious??
One would have to think that transaction is pending his decision to come back to the KHL.

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nonsense. CSKA has to pay over 6 milions USD for his KHL rights. And gets nothing? Are you serious??
If that were the case, there wouldn't be any trade discussion, because Radulov would be going back to Russia one way or another. I'm sure the "deal" is contingent on Radulov committing to come back.

And sorry, i tend to trust their opinion on the matter more than yours. CSKA can do all they want to try to get him, but if he wants to stay in the NHL, there's not much they can do to force the situation.

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06-04-2012, 09:50 AM
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I would love to see Rudulov go to the Rangers, its ideal for every fan that can't stand the team

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...and if anyone can "encourage" Radulov to conform to the culture of the NEW NYR it is Torts. Ask Vinny Lecavilier. Not to mention the culture and influence of the group.

And one thing no one has mentioned is that the kid is human. Maybe he learned from his mistake. Maybe that, and the chance to play in NYC with a Russian community (I still remember the Khab-I-Bul-Lin chants during the 1996 World Cup at MSG).

I think there is a LOT to like here. A conditional pick yo Nashville for negotiating rights. Should be done already.
i really hope you're being sarcastic

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Yes, because it's not like it was confirmed that the Kostitsyn's got in trouble in Montreal with some "less than clean" people.

Or that once Sergei went to Nashville he played the best hockey of his career...

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=89832

Or that for some VERY ODD reason, Sergei wasn't out with his brother.

If you don't see the trend, it's not my problem, but I'm doing nothing but pointing out facts, so you can take your bias elsewhere.

Good to know that you needed wikipedia's help for that, by the way.

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Radulov is an excellent idea. I also remember a certain a**hole who many thought was a locker room cancer, lazy, un-coachable, offensive dynamo…

...54 goals, 123 points, and a prima donna attitude were fine by me in 2006.

Do it Glen.
Yeah, Jagr worked out very well for us. Helped facilitate a partial rebuild very well.

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06-04-2012, 10:51 AM
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DiPietro doesn't even come into this conversation because he's not even a real hockey player. He's a total joke. But in my opinion the Rangers paid a very high price to get both players on the open market and we do have one guy who makes less money than both and is a significantly better player. And he's 10 years younger
What are you saying? Are you saying that a former #! pick who is a young franschise player is playing real good? You don't say...

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06-04-2012, 10:57 AM
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How about:


To Nashville: 2012 1st rounder and a conditional pick (2013 1st rounder)

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To Rangers: Radulov's rights.


Nashville gets 2012 1st for him and if he signs for the Rangers puts up +70 points and do not run over to the KHL starting the next season they get another 1st round pick (2013) for him. Deal?


You possibly get 2 1st rounder for an RFA player. It's gotta be conditional due to the flight risk etc.

Terms are: 70 points in his 1st season and no running to the KHL the following season.

I doubt that he would go back to NHL if he was offered let's say $5 million.

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Rangers 28th pick is as good as an early second rounder
it's also better than any early 2nd rounder.

It's practically as good as any late 1st rounder can get.

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06-04-2012, 12:01 PM
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How about:


To Nashville: 2012 1st rounder and a conditional pick (2013 1st rounder)

for

To Rangers: Radulov's rights.


Nashville gets 2012 1st for him and if he signs for the Rangers puts up +70 points and do not run over to the KHL starting the next season they get another 1st round pick (2013) for him. Deal?


You possibly get 2 1st rounder for an RFA player. It's gotta be conditional due to the flight risk etc.

Terms are: 70 points in his 1st season and no running to the KHL the following season.

I doubt that he would go back to NHL if he was offered let's say $5 million.
I would say a 7th-8th rd pick for rights to negotiate, and a 2nd or this year's 1st (28th overall) if he signs with the NYR. Radulov is DONE in Nashville anyway. They will take whatever they can get.

Will another team offer more? Perhaps. But that fact that Sather is reaching out to Nashville already seems to indicate he can sell Radulov on NYC

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How about:


To Nashville: 2012 1st rounder and a conditional pick (2013 1st rounder)

for

To Rangers: Radulov's rights.


Nashville gets 2012 1st for him and if he signs for the Rangers puts up +70 points and do not run over to the KHL starting the next season they get another 1st round pick (2013) for him. Deal?


You possibly get 2 1st rounder for an RFA player. It's gotta be conditional due to the flight risk etc.

Terms are: 70 points in his 1st season and no running to the KHL the following season.

I doubt that he would go back to NHL if he was offered let's say $5 million.
H E double hockey sticks NO.

no 1st rounder, damnsure no two first rounders

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06-04-2012, 12:03 PM
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A Radulov acquisition would go a long way to replacing the void in the NYR offense that could have been filled by Chreponov...RIP.

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I am happy that the Rangers are looking into Radulov. However, I also hope that Suter and Webber stay in Nashville. The club is close to getting to the finals. It would be cool to see them get there. They have a very loyal base of fans.

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Kessler. I'm not Poile. But if I were, I'd package Rads and a role player, maybe Lindback or Sergei Kostitsyn, for Kessler.

With the right attitude, Radulov for Kessler straight up is fair. But Radulov's attitude may never be right, so you sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra.
So far off, lol.

Well, actually you could probably get Kessler for a 7th round pick. But if you want Ryan KESLER, you will not be sniffing him with Radulov and a role player...


Edit: damn, Baff beat me to it, lol

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Hamhuis didn't have a huge flight risk, Filatov did. Vokoun was rumored to be considering a change to the KHL. Each year the market changes which impacts his value, as does a lot more than his potential.

Nashville will likely want players that are NHL or near NHL ready rather than picks, to refill their ranks. Likely to be both forward and potentially defense with the departure of Suter and maybe Weber in the near future.

I could see Thomas and Valentenko getting it done.

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Hamhuis didn't have a huge flight risk, Filatov did. Vokoun was rumored to be considering a change to the KHL. Each year the market changes which impacts his value, as does a lot more than his potential.

Nashville will likely want players that are NHL or near NHL ready rather than picks, to refill their ranks. Likely to be both forward and potentially defense with the departure of Suter and maybe Weber in the near future.

I could see Thomas and Valentenko getting it done.
Pretty sure Valentenko already signed a deal in the KHL

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Hamhuis didn't have a huge flight risk, Filatov did. Vokoun was rumored to be considering a change to the KHL. Each year the market changes which impacts his value, as does a lot more than his potential.

Nashville will likely want players that are NHL or near NHL ready rather than picks, to refill their ranks. Likely to be both forward and potentially defense with the departure of Suter and maybe Weber in the near future.

I could see Thomas and Valentenko getting it done.
I don't. I like Thomas a lot but I don't think he is getting it done along with a guy who has never played in the NHL and could very well be a flight risk himself if he doesn't finally get a shot at the NHL.

At the same time expecting too much for a guy who completely abandoned his team a few years ago and could potentially bolt back to Russia this off season is equally as absurd.

I think the most likely scenario is a conditional trade where its something minimal for his rights like a 5th or 6th round pick and then if we sign him a 1st + Player/Prospect.

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Pretty sure Valentenko already signed a deal in the KHL
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Valentenko signed a deal with Omsk right after the Whale were eliminated.

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Pretty sure he didn't. Pretty sure he played this year with the CT Whale.
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Well. I stand corrected. I was gone from may 5th-28th so makes sense as to why I had no memory of that.

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Back on point.

The NYR will be in the running for Parise and Nash. But the NYR need more than just one guy. Especially with Gabby out until November. Radulov is a great option. I am not so sure about Gaustad, but if the NYR can sign Radulov and another (Penner, Hudler, even Doan), I think that would be enough.

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