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06-03-2012, 12:17 PM
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to STL:
Staal
Despres

to PIT:
Tarasenko
Shattenkirk
1st or 2nd

Blues acquire a legit 1C who has been outgrown his 3C role in PIT. Despres is a well developed LH prospect to get paired with Pietro.

Pens acquire a good winger for Crosby, and top-4 D. Also they unload some cap space.

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06-03-2012, 12:24 PM
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Tarasenko isn't being moved, and neither is Despres.

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06-03-2012, 12:27 PM
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to STL:
Staal
Despres

to PIT:
Tarasenko
Shattenkirk
1st or 2nd

Blues acquire a legit 1C who has been outgrown his 3C role in PIT. Despres is a well developed LH prospect to get paired with Pietro.

Pens acquire a good winger for Crosby, and top-4 D. Also they unload some cap space.
Lets see. Jordan is a 1B center, not 1A. Despres has no chance of starting on the top pair right away, let alone ever getting there.
Tarasenko is IMO the most skilled prospect I know that isn't playing in the NHL, and know he has agreed to sign a contract with the Blues. Shattenkirk is a great OFD that isn't a liability in defence. Blues are good with getting good prospects in later half also. (Tarasenko, Schwartz, etc.)
Don't understand why almost every Pens fan wants to trade Staal even though he is so great in their eyes..

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06-03-2012, 12:37 PM
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Lets see. Jordan is a 1B center, not 1A. Despres has no chance of starting on the top pair right away, let alone ever getting there.
Tarasenko is IMO the most skilled prospect I know that isn't playing in the NHL, and know he has agreed to sign a contract with the Blues. Shattenkirk is a great OFD that isn't a liability in defence. Blues are good with getting good prospects in later half also. (Tarasenko, Schwartz, etc.)
Don't understand why almost every Pens fan wants to trade Staal even though he is so great in their eyes..
you don't know much about Despres i see.

and all the trade Staal threads are based on the premise that he doesn't want to remain here as a 3rd center. 99% of pens fans would prefer to keep him if that is an option.

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06-03-2012, 12:38 PM
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Lets see. Jordan is a 1B center, not 1A. Despres has no chance of starting on the top pair right away, let alone ever getting there.
Tarasenko is IMO the most skilled prospect I know that isn't playing in the NHL, and know he has agreed to sign a contract with the Blues. Shattenkirk is a great OFD that isn't a liability in defence. Blues are good with getting good prospects in later half also. (Tarasenko, Schwartz, etc.)
Don't understand why almost every Pens fan wants to trade Staal even though he is so great in their eyes..
Pens fans only want to trade Staal if he makes it clear he wants a bigger role. I'm not sure you can write off Despres as never becoming a top pair guy. I don't see the Blues moving Tarasenko until they've seen what he's capable of in the NHL.

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06-03-2012, 12:42 PM
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Bad for both IMO.

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This is so bad for the Blues...Who takes Shattenkirk's place? No one. Creating a hole for a luxury. Not to mention moving Tarasenko would be retarded.

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06-03-2012, 12:48 PM
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Why do we keep adding stuff to a simple benefitial deal,where both teams deal from strengths (a center for a winger), and then fight about it? Pens are happy with giving Despres his fair shake, he is ready, and don't need more D (unless it's Edler ), they definitely don't need picks. I still vote something with Staal and Oshie.

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06-03-2012, 12:49 PM
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Blues pass easily. Staal is not a legit #1 center yet and may never be more then a 2nd line center. I would love Staal on the Blues but not at that price.

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Don't understand why almost every Pens fan wants to trade Staal even though he is so great in their eyes..
I don't even think anywhere near 20% of the proposals here including Staal are actually coming from Pens fans.

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06-03-2012, 12:55 PM
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Why would the Blues move Tarasenko so soon, and Depres won't be traded.

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06-03-2012, 01:00 PM
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No way in hell. We move one of, if not the top prospect in the world, a defenseman who cannot be replaced by anyone in the system now, and a 1st for a 1b/2a center and a good not great d prospect? Pass

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06-03-2012, 01:08 PM
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Both pass.

Also, poster above: 'Good not great d prospect' in Despres? Mistaken. Great d prospect, no way he would have been available at 30 if it had been known he would progress like this.

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06-03-2012, 01:24 PM
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No way in hell. We move one of, if not the top prospect in the world, a defenseman who cannot be replaced by anyone in the system now, and a 1st for a 1b/2a center and a good not great d prospect? Pass
Despres is a great d prospect.

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No interest at all in trading Tarasenko.

Staal and Oshie or Staal for Perron+ still the best options for a deal between these two

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Don't understand why almost every Pens fan wants to trade Staal even though he is so great in their eyes..
Must be poor reading comprehension on your part regarding the constant trade proposals about JS and Pens fans views. I would say at least 90%, if not more, prefer first to sign Staal!! Every Pen's fan wants to trade him??? Get real!!!

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06-03-2012, 02:11 PM
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Must be poor reading comprehension on your part regarding the constant trade proposals about JS and Pens fans views. I would say at least 90%, if not more, prefer first to sign Staal!! Every Pen's fan wants to trade him??? Get real!!!
I think every Pens fan wants to re-sign, and with the cap going up and if it stays up, the more and more likely we will re-sign Staal.


Get it Done Shero!

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Blues won't trade Tarasenko.

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I don't see the Blues letting Tarasenko go now. I sure wouldn't.

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Not worth what it'd take to acquire Tarasenko. He holds huge value for the Blues as a big potential cheap forward. I'd imagine they look at him as a McDonald replacement.

Id do Staal+Harrington+ for Oshie+Stewart. Assuming Staal has an extension in the works with the Blues. And I believe Staal holds a Oshie+1st type value.

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Why does STL add a 1st or 2nd?

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06-03-2012, 02:56 PM
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Why does STL add a 1st or 2nd?
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Staal + Despres>Shattenkirk + Tarasenko

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06-03-2012, 03:02 PM
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because

Staal + Despres>Shattenkirk + Tarasenko
I wouldn't trade Shattenkirk for Staal straight up. Staal can walk in a year and Shattenkirk's rights are held for another five, plus the fact that he's clear top-four D with room to improve. And I definitely wouldn't trade Tarasenko for Despres straight up. So I don't see how your formula works.

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because

Staal + Despres>Shattenkirk + Tarasenko
I still do not get why Despres and Shattenkirk are even in the equation. Blues obviously and understandably do not want to give up Shattenkirk and Pens are set at D unless a LH top pairing defenseman younger and better than Orpik comes up to be the light of Letang's life for the next 10 years.

Not that I would not take an effective Dman on an ELC for free, but I have zero interest in trading Staal (or Despres) for one.

This should be Staal for STL winger+ and I am not even close to pushing for that winger to be Tarasenko.

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