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06-18-2012, 04:19 PM
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I'd rather draft a Dman at 15 and keep Noesen. It's a decent 1st rd for D this year, giving up our first this year, when D will likely be BPA also, is tough.

Interesting idea, though.
As would I, I LOVE Gormley but I have a feeling Noesen is going to be a really good player for us.

I also can't see Senators management moving him just yet, they seemed to see something in him that they really like.

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06-18-2012, 04:27 PM
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According to TSN Jagr is hitting free agency, it would be fun to see him on the roster for a year.

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06-18-2012, 04:31 PM
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We need a defenseman tomorrow. Not next year. As talented as they may be, throwing 3+ rookies out there for a hopeful playoff team probobly isn't a good idea.
I'm ok with signing a UFA stopgap, if we can't find a UFA keeper.

I don't want to lose Noesen.

Still willing to trade Smith + 3rd for the Hammer.

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06-18-2012, 04:33 PM
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Did someone say Kovalev and Hasek? No? Must be hearing things.

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06-18-2012, 04:38 PM
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Nash is way better than Michalek IMO, and doesn't have bad knees.
He makes twice as much to put up 14 extra points a year.

$7.8 vs. $4.333 = 181%

Last 6 years pro-rated:
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MM = 82-27-29-56

Last 6 years average:
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Silfverberg - Spezza - Nash
<gap here i traded Foligno> - Turris - Alfie.
Alfredsson hasn't said he's coming back.
Silfverberg has never done anything in the NHL. We have no idea what he'd be able to do next season.
Turris hasn't done a heck of a lot either. We have no idea what he'd be able to accomplish without Alfredsson next season.

_____ - Spezza - Nash
_____ - ______ - _____

It's entirely possible that nobody beyond these two would crack the 40 point mark next year.

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06-18-2012, 04:48 PM
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Become a 1 line team with a weak defense. That should lead to more Cups. Worked before.

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06-18-2012, 04:56 PM
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While I'm not saying that we should sign Nash and Jagr, it would certainly make for an interesting top 6.

Michalek-Spezza-Nash (no brainer)
Jagr-Turris-Alfredsson (Jagr would create a lot of room for both Turris and Alfredsson to get their shots off)

If Alfredsson decides to play next year, I would guess the rebuild will be on hold for a year, while the club tries to win a cup. If that's the case Jagr might not be a bad option. (especially at last years contract)

It would also put Ottawa in a better place to allow players like Stone, Zibanejad and Silfverberg (depending on the Nash trade)to spend the year in Bingo.

Out bottom 6 wouldn't look to shabby either:

Condra-Regin-Butler
Greening-Smith-Neil


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06-18-2012, 04:58 PM
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Why would Jagr want to sign with us even if we did want him? Are we all of a sudden contenders this coming season?

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06-18-2012, 04:59 PM
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No Jagr. Too old. Spend the money on a defender.

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06-18-2012, 05:04 PM
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While I'm not saying that we should sign Nash and Jagr, it would certainly make for an interesting top 6.

Michalek-Spezza-Nash (no brainer)
Jagr-Turris-Alfredsson (Jagr would create a lot of room for both Turris and Alfredsson to get their shots off)

If Alfredsson decides to play next year, I would guess the rebuild will be on hold for a year, while the club tries to win a cup. If that's the case Jagr might not be a bad option. (especially at last years contract)

It would also put Ottawa in a better place to allow players like Stone, Zibanejad and Silfverberg to spend the year in Bingo.

Out bottom 6 wouldn't look to shabby either:

Foligno-Regin-Neil
Greening-Smith-Condra
So we got Nash for free? nice.

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06-18-2012, 05:06 PM
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http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index...id=24:rambling

Interesting comparison between Nash and another player I'm sure no one here would hesitate trading for.

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06-18-2012, 05:06 PM
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So we got Nash for free? nice.
LOL I knew something didn't look right! Foligno would likely be the odd man out (depending of what is heading the other way).

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I hope they make a pitch for Garrison 4 years 18 million - cap hit is 4.5. Pay him 6 - 5 - 4 -3 per season making him easy to move later on if thats what they want to do.

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While I'm not saying that we should sign Nash and Jagr, it would certainly make for an interesting top 6.

Michalek-Spezza-Nash (no brainer)
Jagr-Turris-Alfredsson (Jagr would create a lot of room for both Turris and Alfredsson to get their shots off)

If Alfredsson decides to play next year, I would guess the rebuild will be on hold for a year, while the club tries to win a cup. If that's the case Jagr might not be a bad option. (especially at last years contract)

It would also put Ottawa in a better place to allow players like Stone, Zibanejad and Silfverberg to spend the year in Bingo.

Out bottom 6 wouldn't look to shabby either:

Foligno-Regin-Neil
Greening-Smith-Condra

There is obviously no way in hell that we get Nash without giving up one or more of Michalek, Foligno, Stone, Zibanejad and Silfverberg.

So your line up would need some tweeking.

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06-18-2012, 05:16 PM
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There is obviously no way in hell that we get Nash without giving up one or more of Michalek, Foligno, Stone, Zibanejad and Silfverberg.

So your line up would need some tweeking.
Yah, when I was typing up the line-up I forgot to actually trade for Nash. I edited the post.

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06-18-2012, 05:28 PM
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Why would Jagr want to sign with us even if we did want him? Are we all of a sudden contenders this coming season?
He's always expressed a huge desire to play in Canada, and yes, besides Vancouver, we're the 2nd biggest contender out of the Canadian teams

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06-18-2012, 05:36 PM
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What would bouwmeester cost us? Perfect #2 for karlesson

maybe 15th pick and a prospect? noeson,stone,ect

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06-18-2012, 05:38 PM
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I think you mean what would it take to make Ottawa take Jay Bouwmeester?

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06-18-2012, 05:41 PM
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maybe 15th pick and a prospect? noeson,stone,ect
Hey welcome to HF Boards!

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06-18-2012, 05:47 PM
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No Love for Bouwmeester eh! Would love for them to get Suter but will probably never happen.Jackman and Stuart signed back with clubs so choices limited.Maybe Bryan Allen

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in a perfect world, I would like to not have to offer zib, stone, silf, or lehner in order to get nash. meaning that the strength in the trade on our side needs to come from somewhere else.
Somewhere in the ballpark of Noesen, 1st (2012), 2nd (2013), one of foligno/greening/smith, and a solid fringe bongo player,ie. Hoffman, DaCosta, or Grant.
i think the trade that gives Columbus most value would be, Greening/Hoffman comp, althought they would probably be enticed by foligno/dacosta comp as well.


thoughts? value too much? too little?

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06-18-2012, 05:50 PM
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Why would Jagr want to sign with us even if we did want him? Are we all of a sudden contenders this coming season?
If we get Nash why wouldnt he wanna sign in Ottawa ..

Nash Spezza Alfredsson
Michalek Turris Jagr

Would be pretty attractive

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06-18-2012, 05:53 PM
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in a perfect world, I would like to not have to offer zib, stone, silf, or lehner in order to get nash. meaning that the strength in the trade on our side needs to come from somewhere else.
Somewhere in the ballpark of Noesen, 1st (2012), 2nd (2013), one of foligno/greening/smith, and a solid fringe bongo player,ie. Hoffman, DaCosta, or Grant.
i think the trade that gives Columbus most value would be, Greening/Hoffman comp, althought they would probably be enticed by foligno/dacosta comp as well.


thoughts? value too much? too little?
Probably too little. Apparently the asking price is 2 roster players 2 high-end prospects.

I doubt we could avoid trading one of Zibanejad, Silfverberg, Stone or Lehner but perhaps...Michalek, Bishop, Stone, Weircioch? I don't think CBJ would get a much better offer than that when you consider what Richards and Carter were traded for.

If you really want to seal the deal, add the 15th overall in excange for the 30th and 31st overall picks.

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in a perfect world, I would like to not have to offer zib, stone, silf, or lehner in order to get nash. meaning that the strength in the trade on our side needs to come from somewhere else.
Somewhere in the ballpark of Noesen, 1st (2012), 2nd (2013), one of foligno/greening/smith, and a solid fringe bongo player,ie. Hoffman, DaCosta, or Grant.
i think the trade that gives Columbus most value would be, Greening/Hoffman comp, althought they would probably be enticed by foligno/dacosta comp as well.


thoughts? value too much? too little?
The only prospects I have above Noesen fright now are the 3 big swedes, with Lehner only above him due to the position he plays. Our scouts had him in the top 15 last year for a reason, and his stock has only gone up, way up in my mind since he was drafted. I would be very reluctant to give him up in a package for anyone.

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