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06-07-2012, 12:51 AM
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I really think the Chi series hurt us. If we had won game 4, the grind would have been so much easier ....
It makes me so annoyed to watch LA march through such an easy run.

First, the biggest underachievers in the league.

Then a team with zero offense.

Then 2 mediocre teams.

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06-07-2012, 06:24 PM
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Im going to make one more post about the series and say that I believe the Bruins losing the 3 games in the manner they did focused them (and being outplayed first period of game 3 combined with seeing Horton clocked.)

Those 3 losses were amazing hockey (fastest games of the series bad ice was noticable in boston) the only Bruins game that was close to being that good our entire playoff run was the epic Game 7 vs Tampa. So to lose 1+2 on the road when you played your 100% best on unlucky bounces despite being outplayed/outclassed by a near dominant team that you battled to keep it close all game with allowed the team to be ready to pounce when they got the breaks. Hortons injury gave momentum for the big second period in game 3, Hortons replacement scoring an early first period goal won game 4 early, and you weren't winning when Raymond went down.

I think you'll get a cup if you get Kesler a first liner with Luongo's money soon I like you against the Kings with Schneider in net instead of him, Hawks/Wings/Preds/SJ/STL may not be as good next year as they were this past year and you guys will be better automatically due to the rest.

PS- Glad realignment got blocked by the players cause we still have two games against each other this year .
Bruins deserved it. They played better. We were beat up but some of the wounds were self inflicted. We shudda taken out Chicago when we had the chance early.

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10-30-2012, 03:12 AM
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I was just thinking about 2011 - an amazing year for us. And I thought of a question. Which is the more impressive feat, in general, winning the president's trophy, or winning the western conference in the playoffs?

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10-30-2012, 09:44 AM
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Only reason we lost was injuries. If the team was as healthy as the Kings are now, we'd have dominated in a similar fashion.

The injuries allowed other teams to level the playing field and keep things competitive. It just sucks that they had to deny us yet again this year while LA is injury free.
We hobbled into the finals. Once Hamhuis went down, you know we were toast.
Amazing it went to 7 instead of 5 or 6.

I know what you mean.
But this sounds like sour grapes.
Injuries were 'one of' the biggest reasons we lost,
but it wasn't the only reason we lost.


Boston played well and earned their Cup.

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10-30-2012, 10:25 AM
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The two huge crippling blows were Kesler's injury in Game 5 against SJ, and Hamhuis going down in Game 1 vs. Boston. Henrik being hobbled all playoff long was pretty brutal, but those two were our "every single situation" guys. PP, PK, last minute of a game, they were always there eating up huge minutes against top players.

I also think Samuelsson was a guy who was perfectly suited for the Final series. Big body, king of the gloved-punch, would have been right in there in those scrums driving the Bruins crazy. Sigh.
This, right here. When Kesler was hurt, it was just huge. We lost our secondary scoring in one crushing blow. We needed him more than ever against Chara backed by oustanding goaltending by TT. Then when Hamhuis went down, it was the nail in the coffin. He was the stabilizing factor on the back end, when he went down our defense crumbled. People love to blame Luongo, but despite having **** team defense in front of him and no scoring he still posted 2 shutouts in 7 games.

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10-30-2012, 12:05 PM
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I'll never forget Henrik and Ballard handling the puck like a hot potato in the Dzone, then Bergeron stealing the puck eventually and feeding to an unchecked Marchand in the crease for the goal.

Defined our play in Boston right there.

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10-30-2012, 01:18 PM
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This, right here. When Kesler was hurt, it was just huge. We lost our secondary scoring in one crushing blow. We needed him more than ever against Chara backed by oustanding goaltending by TT. Then when Hamhuis went down, it was the nail in the coffin. He was the stabilizing factor on the back end, when he went down our defense crumbled. People love to blame Luongo, but despite having **** team defense in front of him and no scoring he still posted 2 shutouts in 7 games.
Hard to have secondary scoring when you have no primary scoring. I believe Hansen and Lapierre led our team in offense in the SCF.

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10-30-2012, 01:25 PM
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This.

That plus also we lost game 5 vs nashville which could have helped us stay in Vancouver instead of having to go to Tennesse for game 6.
We certainly did it to ourselves. Extra cross country trips to CHI & NAS vs Boston being able to DRIVE to their first 2 series if they chose to. The Bruins didnt leave their time zone until the SCF.

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10-30-2012, 01:49 PM
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Still going back to this?

It's gone, guys. Still hurts just as much as when it happened, but it's gone. Nobody but us and them even remember that series anymore.

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I really think the Chi series hurt us. If we had won game 4, the grind would have been so much easier ....
Playing defensemen like Keith, Seabrook, Weber, Suter, Boyle (forget who else), Chara, Seidenberg was just a gauntlet of good defensemen that didn't help either. Not to mention, our rivalry with CHI amped up the hitting more, NSH is a trap kind of team and hit you a lot, SJ hit quite a bit and Boston hit lots too.

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Still going back to this?

It's gone, guys. Still hurts just as much as when it happened, but it's gone. Nobody but us and them even remember that series anymore.
Time has healed the loss for me. Still hurts, but not as bad as it once did.

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10-31-2012, 02:54 AM
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Like I said, 3-6 in elimination games. If we bury Chicago earlier or even win game 2 against Nashville we are a much healthier team in the Finals and probably win.

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10-31-2012, 02:57 AM
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Time has healed the loss for me. Still hurts, but not as bad as it once did.
Yeah. It hurts more we don't have hockey to watch right now than that.

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10-31-2012, 03:00 AM
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Yeah. It hurts more we don't have hockey to watch right now than that.
Agreed. I was starting to get over it, of course it still hurt, when we started a new season and lost in R1, but now it just hurts so much that there's no hockey at all. Almost as if the hockey gods truly don't want us to win a Cup in the time the Sedins are here.

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Agreed. I was starting to get over it, of course it still hurt, when we started a new season and lost in R1, but now it just hurts so much that there's no hockey at all. Almost as if the hockey gods truly don't want us to win a Cup in the time the Sedins are here.
The hockey gods have been cruel, unfair mistresses to us during the last 41 years and counting. You know, the Red Sox fans apparently blew up the baseball Bill Buckner fumbled in '86 and the won the World Series the next year? Has anyone tried to find the puck Lafayette hit the crossbar with?

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The hockey gods have been cruel, unfair mistresses to us during the last 41 years and counting. You know, the Red Sox fans apparently blew up the baseball Bill Buckner fumbled in '86 and the won the World Series the next year? Has anyone tried to find the puck Lafayette hit the crossbar with?
Wouldn't matter what we did to that puck, the hockey gods would frown upon it, and give us another 41 years of no Cup as punishment.

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Wouldn't matter what we did to that puck, the hockey gods would frown upon it, and give us another 41 years of no Cup as punishment.
Yeah, never mind it was Cubs fans who did that to the Bartman ball.

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10-31-2012, 01:38 PM
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Still going back to this?

It's gone, guys. Still hurts just as much as when it happened, but it's gone. Nobody but us and them even remember that series anymore.
I agree why are we going back to this?

I don't agree about us & them being the only ones to remember that. The trolls LOVE throwing that Series back at us.... that & the Marchand punches.

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10-31-2012, 09:47 PM
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This, right here. When Kesler was hurt, it was just huge. We lost our secondary scoring in one crushing blow. We needed him more than ever against Chara backed by oustanding goaltending by TT. Then when Hamhuis went down, it was the nail in the coffin. He was the stabilizing factor on the back end, when he went down our defense crumbled. People love to blame Luongo, but despite having **** team defense in front of him and no scoring he still posted 2 shutouts in 7 games.
If that's the case, how did we win games 1, 2, and 5?

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If that's the case, how did we win games 1, 2, and 5?
A lot of people overlook the fact AV could manage lines at home, whereas it was obviously a lot harder in Boston. We had two healthy lines (Sedins and Torres-Lappy-Hansen); the rest were either fighting through serious injury (Kesler, Higgins, Manny...) or simply out and replaced by plugs; plus the whole cluster**** in the D-pairings. So not only the Sedins had to start more often at home, it was very easy for Julien to throw the Lucic line against our plugs or injured players then Bergeron's against the Sedins.

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If that's the case, how did we win games 1, 2, and 5?
Hamhuis was the most steady defenceman we had; in other words, the rest of the defence was inconsistent - sometimes good, sometimes horrible. They were good in those games (Game 5 might have been one of the best games I've ever seen Bieksa play, assisted on the only goal and great in our own zone), and horrible in games 3, 4, and 7. (And Luongo just gave up too many softies in Game 6.)

As for the topic, we are at least behind the 1971 Bruins, 1982 and 1986 Oilers, 1993 Penguins, and 1996 Wings. So not in the top 5.

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bet the main board may disagree with the theory behind this thread

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I appreciate a Bruins fan trying to be nice, but really its just salt in the wound....Detroit in 1995 was better than us last year.
meh, the Bruins of the 70s with likes of Orr/Park in their prime were the best team not the win the Cup. Could've been the best if the Habs didn't constantly beat them like a rented mule in the post-season. Helped by the fact the goalie the Bruins themselves drafted but traded to the Habs for table scraps.

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Didn't Stan Smyl hit a crossbar in overtime in a playoff game that mattered?

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Didn't Stan Smyl hit a crossbar in overtime in a playoff game that mattered?
Nathan LaFayette. Game 7 of the SCF vs the Rangers.

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