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06-06-2012, 12:38 AM
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Larsson - Greene
UFA - Merrill
Volchenkov - Fayne/Urbom/Gelinas

While I would love Urbom/Gelinas etc. to step in and work and not need a UFA signing. I don't think it is realistic.

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06-06-2012, 12:38 AM
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I think Taormina goes elsewhere with a better opportunity to play. Urbom's probably another year away. Love Sal, but we need to let him go. Honestly surprised by Gelinas' year. Saw him a ton in the Q, and didn't think he'd be anything special in the pros. Obviously still has to prove he can play in the show, but shows why I'm not a scout.

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06-06-2012, 03:41 AM
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i'm fine with volch and zid on the third pairing. honestly that's an ideal third pairing. they'll hold their own and fill roles on special teams. neither should be in our top 4 though.

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06-06-2012, 05:02 AM
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These threads usually end up looking silly in 2 years. We will have a pretty damn good defense, lets leave it at that.

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06-06-2012, 09:09 AM
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They are terrible for predicting the specific players on the defence, but good for predicting the overall trend. I think most of us agree that our defence should be much improved in a couple years.

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06-06-2012, 09:14 AM
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Some of you really can't take someone unknown's opinion can you?

Laugh if you want. I may have not discussed it here, because really, who enjoys being torn apart for their opinion? But I was right about Henrique, I was right about Fayne. As were others. And it seems some of you refuse to eat crow when you're wrong.

Whatever. It's an internet forum. Enjoy the popularity contest.
certain posters are habitually wrong about everything, but that wont stop them from spewing more garbage about things that they don’t understand. by the time theyre wrong with their latest nostradamus prediction, theyre too busy being wrong about something else to notice. I loved your post though, way to call them out. and I agree about urbom, he could wind up being very good..we simply don’t know yet.

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06-06-2012, 09:16 AM
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Larsson - random UFA
random undrafted guy - Fayne
Volchenkov - Merrill

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06-06-2012, 09:36 AM
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I don't care who'll be on our blueline, as long as we don't have one dimensional players who can't handle the puck, I'll be happy.

We are starting to build up a pretty solid core of young blueliners that have size and mobility. The defensive part of it all can always be learned and the fact that we play a "structured system" does facilitate things for our youngsters.

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06-06-2012, 09:58 AM
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So after reading all posts, I can assume we all expect Tallinder to be traded at some point within the next two years?

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Im surprised I don't see Salvador in any of these. Do you guys believe he will sign with another team this summer?

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Im surprised I don't see Salvador in any of these. Do you guys believe he will sign with another team this summer?
We have too many players under contract for next year (Tallinder, Greene, Zidlicky, Volch + Fayne is a pending RFA) and Larsson will be a regular, that's almost certain.

The fact that we have a weaker version of Salvador signed to a 4.25M$ contract for the next 4 years (Jesus Christ ) will put Lou in ackward position if he does negotiate with Salvador's agent.

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06-06-2012, 11:45 AM
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Im surprised I don't see Salvador in any of these. Do you guys believe he will sign with another team this summer?
I would love him back strictly if he can produce offensively (playoffs) and consistent defensively (regular/playoffs), but in all honestly, his time in NJ is over. He had a strong run, but with so many defense under contract and with possible prospects (Urbom, Merrill(?)) playing with the addition of Larsson being full-time and everyone is healthy, he is simply just not in the plans. We all, and Lou too, would love him back, but we need to look forward to the future and Salvador isn't there. He'll probably get a good money in FA with his performance this year.

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Salvador is 36 years old, in 3 years he will be retired. That's why you don't see him in here.

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Salvador is 36 years old, in 3 years he will be retired. That's why you don't see him in here.
He could easily be retired in one year. He overachieved greatly this season and could easily fall off a cliff next year wherever he is.

As much as I love him, as much as we wouldn't be in the finals without him, and as much as no one should ever have to go through what he did last year. From a strictly business perspective I would not give him a raise or sign him for anything longer than one year. 1 year / $3M or let him walk. WAYYY too much risk with his age and injury history.

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I think Sal signs here one year for about 3mil - doesn't strike me as a money first guy

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I don't see any way Salvador is brought back. There's really no room for him financially and when you add in his age, it's kind of a no-brainer. The Devils have a glut of defense prospects who need to get a shot here sooner or later. Devils already have Zidlicky, Greene, Tallinder, Volchenkov in the 3-4.25 mil range per year as well. It doesn't even really make a ton of sense to bring Salvador back on a one year deal as I think if Salvador took a one year deal, he'd like it to be a significant dollar figure which I don't think makes any sense for the Devils either.

Devils will have this issue pop up again the following season with guys like Zubrus and Elias, although in such a case, I'm not sure there's a compelling argument they will have enough internal options to move in for those guys.

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I don't see any way Salvador is brought back. There's really no room for him financially and when you add in his age, it's kind of a no-brainer. The Devils have a glut of defense prospects who need to get a shot here sooner or later. Devils already have Zidlicky, Greene, Tallinder, Volchenkov in the 3-4.25 mil range per year as well. It doesn't even really make a ton of sense to bring Salvador back on a one year deal as I think if Salvador took a one year deal, he'd like it to be a significant dollar figure which I don't think makes any sense for the Devils either.

Devils will have this issue pop up again the following season with guys like Zubrus and Elias, although in such a case, I'm not sure there's a compelling argument they will have enough internal options to move in for those guys.
I agree with you. The defence will take a hit, but there isn't much room for Sal with the logjam we have. If there's any hope of improving, we can't cling to a mediocre defencemen at the end of his career. We need to make room for the potential impact players we have coming up.

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06-06-2012, 01:53 PM
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Trades:

H. Tallinder and B. Salvador's UFA Rights to Nashville for Suter's UFA Rights.
A. Volchenkov to St. Louis for B. Elliot or J. Halak.

Sign:

Suter: 10 yrs, $6,750,000

Line-up in 2013-2014

Suter - Larsson
Gelinas - Fayne
Urbom - Greene

Merrill in AHL.


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Lou wouldn't trade Tallinder for essentially nothing, and I don't think the Predators plan to trade Suter's rights anyway.

Halak and Elliott play for the Blues, Volchenkov has a full NTC, and Elliott is not likely to be our long term solution in net. The Blues won't trade Halak.

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Trades:

H. Tallinder and B. Salvador's UFA Rights to Nashville for Suter's UFA Rights.
A. Volchenkov to Nashville for B. Elliot or J. Halak.

Sign:

Suter: 10 yrs, $6,750,000

Line-up in 2013-2014

Suter - Larsson
Gelinas - Fayne
Urbom - Greene

Merrill in AHL.
This made me want to puke.

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How are we trading Volch to Nash for players that don't even play there? lol

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Lou wouldn't trade Tallinder for essentially nothing, and I don't think the Predators plan to trade Suter's rights anyway.

Halak and Elliott play for the Blues, Volchenkov has a full NTC, and Elliott is not likely to be our long term solution in net. The Blues won't trade Halak.
Yea I don't know why I put Nashville.

If Suter doesn't want to sign in Nashville I could see him trading his rights.

We don't need a long term goalie. Just one who can last long enough so that the prospects can develop properly.

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This made me want to puke.
Congratulations. But just for kicks, why?

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Rights are generally only traded for picks if at all, suter is getting way more than 6.5 a season, and I doubt volchenkov is getting us a starter on his own. People aren't going to give us their treasure for our junk.

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If Suter hits the open market he will get minimum 7.5. He's that good..

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Rights are generally only traded for picks if at all, suter is getting way more than 6.5 a season, and I doubt volchenkov is getting us a starter on his own. People aren't going to give us their treasure for our junk.
Well the Suter contract was a stretch but I figured that we can resign Parise and Suter will take a pay cut to play with him.

Elliot isn't a starter. He is a product of a great defense. Ask any Blues fan. It isn't really treasure when you have another more capable, younger one.

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