Luongo: part infinity

dubey · 06-05-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucbourdon

do people even read the trades before typing.

I had komi going to vancouver. With a Ballard / Komi swap.

Komi is going to Vancouver with a Luongo / Komi swap

Phion Keneuf · 06-05-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 7even

Really? I would be. Biggs is awful. Decent size, almost non-existent offensive upside.

um? sure?

kack zassian · 06-05-2012, 07:00 PM

Vancouver
Luke Schenn - Gives Van a RHS top 4 dman
Nazem Kadri - Can fill in for Kesler, and center 3rd line next season
Carter Ashton - Gives Vancouver a solid wing prospect comparable to Schroeder

Toronto
Roberto Luongo - Get their goalie
Jordan Schroeder - Replaces Kadri as top C prospect
2nd Round Pick - Self Explanatory

Basically Luongo + 2nd for Schenn + Kadri
Ashton for Schroeder

Burrows Bite · 06-05-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazyCanuck19

Not a fan of Scroeder thus far. Kadri is over-hyped.

But Kadri is a GTA boy, he's gonna be a dandy! Now Make the trade for Laluango dummie!

King Canuck · 06-05-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dangerousdan85

Vancouver
Luke Schenn - Gives Van a RHS top 4 dman
Nazem Kadri - Can fill in for Kesler, and center 3rd line next season
Carter Ashton - Gives Vancouver a solid wing prospect comparable to Schroeder

Toronto
Roberto Luongo - Get their goalie
Jordan Schroeder - Replaces Kadri as top C prospect
2nd Round Pick - Self Explanatory

Basically Luongo + 2nd for Schenn + Kadri
Ashton for Schroeder

Take out Schroeder and Ashton and I'd do it.

CommonMeans* · 06-05-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dubey

Komi is going to Vancouver with a Luongo / Komi swap

And then you wake up from your troll-fest.

smoke meat pete* · 06-05-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyPipkin

A poster said something yesterday and with Vokoun signing in PIT I think he might be right.

He said we're going to see Luongo go somewhere unexpected.

That might be because everyone expects him to go to Toronto. Everywhere else, will be unexpected. And many Leaf fans will offer high fives on Yonge Street.

7even · 06-05-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf

um? sure?

Check out his NCAA stats this year. Yikes.

kack zassian · 06-05-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruno Mars

Take out Schroeder and Ashton and I'd do it.

Schroeder and Ashton are comparable upside wise (IMO)

Schroeder would be stuck behind Kadri on our prospect depth, so we move for another strong winger prospect (Ashton).

Schroeder helps mitigate the loss of Kadri by giving them an NHL ready center prospect.

vanwest · 06-05-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smoke meat pete

The leafs have also identified size, and youth as what they want to bring in.

Luongo's pretty big. We'll throw in a 7th rounder for your youth.

Vorkosh · 06-05-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dangerousdan85

Vancouver
Luke Schenn - Gives Van a RHS top 4 dman
Nazem Kadri - Can fill in for Kesler, and center 3rd line next season
Carter Ashton - Gives Vancouver a solid wing prospect comparable to Schroeder

Toronto
Roberto Luongo - Get their goalie
Jordan Schroeder - Replaces Kadri as top C prospect
2nd Round Pick - Self Explanatory

Basically Luongo + 2nd for Schenn + Kadri
Ashton for Schroeder

Is there a reason you keep making this proposal? it's like the third time now.

No reason to gie up Schroeder, if there is, then I'm asking for at a minimum Lupul back

Vankiller Whale · 06-05-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dangerousdan85

Vancouver
Luke Schenn - Gives Van a RHS top 4 dman
Nazem Kadri - Can fill in for Kesler, and center 3rd line next season
Carter Ashton - Gives Vancouver a solid wing prospect comparable to Schroeder

Toronto
Roberto Luongo - Get their goalie
Jordan Schroeder - Replaces Kadri as top C prospect
2nd Round Pick - Self Explanatory

Basically Luongo + 2nd for Schenn + Kadri
Ashton for Schroeder

Who's better Schroeder or Colborne?

I'd say this is a fair deal that I could easily see happen. I don't care if Schroeder/Ashton are in or out, tbh.

EDIT: Isn't Ashton bigger/more physical rhan Schroeder. If so I'd prefer if they were included, but if not, it's still fair.

Henrik · 06-05-2012, 07:04 PM

After 8000+ posts, what are the pieces that both sides have agreed to?

Kulemon · 06-05-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dangerousdan85

Vancouver
Luke Schenn - Gives Van a RHS top 4 dman
Nazem Kadri - Can fill in for Kesler, and center 3rd line next season
Carter Ashton - Gives Vancouver a solid wing prospect comparable to Schroeder

Toronto
Roberto Luongo - Get their goalie
Jordan Schroeder - Replaces Kadri as top C prospect
2nd Round Pick - Self Explanatory

Basically Luongo + 2nd for Schenn + Kadri
Ashton for Schroeder

No. Not giving up Schenn. He had a bad year and if you were looking to trade him it wouldn't be now anyways.

smoke meat pete* · 06-05-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vanwest

Luongo's pretty big. We'll throw in a 7th rounder for your youth.

I'm not sure having a big goalie justifies moving 2 big young wingers and a really big young defenceman.

smoke meat pete* · 06-05-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Based Kesler

After 8000+ posts, what are the pieces that both sides have agreed to?

Well, neither side seems to want Luongo.

kack zassian · 06-05-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smoke meat pete

The leafs have also identified size, and youth as what they want to bring in.

Fair enough, I just figured for the most part these guys would be identified as relatively expendable from a Toronto POV (unlike Gardiner/5th).

Back in 94 · 06-05-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucbourdon

Canucks trade Luongo + ballard
Leafs trade Kadri + Colburne + komi

flame away

No thanks. Ballard is better than Komisarek and has a better cap hit.

King Canuck · 06-05-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulemon

No. Not giving up Schenn. He had a bad year and if you were looking to trade him it wouldn't be now anyways.

What part of you gotta give to get don't you Leafs fans understand, you can't get a goalie for Luongo's caliber for spare parts.

Kulemon · 06-05-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 7even

Check out his NCAA stats this year. Yikes.

They are pretty average for a freshman getting 3rd line ice time. He started playing on the second line late in the season and PP time. His production was quite average.

Lucbourdon · 06-05-2012, 07:08 PM

Leaf fans, would you give up Gardiner + Colburne if we take on Komi's contract in the deal?

Curious.

Ala,

Luongo
for
Colburne, Gardiner, Komi (huge cap dump)

Lucbourdon · 06-05-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Back in 94

No thanks. Ballard is better than Komisarek and has a better cap hit.

thats the point, it's why we get colburne.

CommonMeans* · 06-05-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucbourdon

Leaf fans, would you give up Gardiner + Colburne if we take on Komi's contract in the deal?

Curious.

Ala,

Luongo
for
Colburne, Gardiner, Komi (huge cap dump)

Not likely. Some Leafs fans seem to think Luongo is a cap dump. A deal will never get done of HF.

kack zassian · 06-05-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vorkosh

Is there a reason you keep making this proposal? it's like the third time now.

No reason to gie up Schroeder, if there is, then I'm asking for at a minimum Lupul back

It seems to be received fairly well by both fanbases (opposed to the Gardiner/5th/Komisarek+4th proposals).

The reason Schroeder is moved is because Kadri takes his spot as our top center prospect.

Toronto isn't moving Lupul, he was nearly a PPG player last year.

The trade basically works out to Schroeder for Ashton who are extremely comparable prospects in regards to upside. Its just Ashton is a bigger winger.

Phion Keneuf · 06-05-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 7even

Check out his NCAA stats this year. Yikes.

it was his rookie season ... when all is said and done, if he isn't at least a very solid physical top 9er i'll eat my words